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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 22 2011 00:49 GMT
#2881
Nasus is completely useless without being tanky enough to walk into the enemy team and melee them.

It's why he's worthless lategame despite doing big dmgz when the enemy team has Vayne with QSS and last whisper, or anyone who builds DFG.

only jungle farm = no maxed build until 40-50~ minutes whilst people who are farming lanes will get max items at 35-45~.
Assuming not 10 kills+ fed that is
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#2882
Q farm is so overrated on nasus, it helps but it's not why he scales at all. Everything he has is multiplicative, the attack reset, the 20% lifesteal, the 600 health ulti, the 40 armor pen, and most of all wither. because of the way the math works attack speed reductions DESTROY carries late game, 40% attack speed reduction is much stronger than a recurve bow, they simply can't do anything unless they have QSS.

You can't put a gold value on Q farm but I can estimate from in game observations that it's just not that high. Items and levels are so much more important relative to the difficulty of acquiring them.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 01:51:10
December 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#2883
OMG awesome right now. best way to win headlights : galio ult + nunu ult + fiddle ult + GP ult. Hilarious.

Edit: @UniversalSnip - also his ulti doing 5% of max health of enemies as AOE and converting it to AD for nasus.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 22 2011 02:02 GMT
#2884
On December 22 2011 10:46 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
OMG awesome right now. best way to win headlights : galio ult + nunu ult + fiddle ult + GP ult. Hilarious.

Edit: @UniversalSnip - also his ulti doing 5% of max health of enemies as AOE and converting it to AD for nasus.


Other team picks Janna. GG

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 22 2011 02:05 GMT
#2885
"can't believe blizzard hasn't nerfed ryze yet" - Saintvicious
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 22 2011 02:07 GMT
#2886
On December 22 2011 11:05 NotSorry wrote:
"can't believe blizzard hasn't nerfed ryze yet" - Saintvicious



I am in love with him, he mentioned Westwood. Errr guy love, nothing more that is.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#2887
"He would press r and then flash out and be like "I did good guys! yay." NO! YOU GOTTA GO BALLS DEEP LIKE FUCKING BACKDOOR SLUTS 69." - SaintVicious

"Press R and walk meta"
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 22 2011 02:15 GMT
#2888
On December 22 2011 11:02 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 10:46 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
OMG awesome right now. best way to win headlights : galio ult + nunu ult + fiddle ult + GP ult. Hilarious.

Edit: @UniversalSnip - also his ulti doing 5% of max health of enemies as AOE and converting it to AD for nasus.


Other team picks Janna. GG


Luckily they weren't intelligent enough to do that.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
December 22 2011 02:23 GMT
#2889
This State of the League is the best. Even Travis is good.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 03:00:02
December 22 2011 02:58 GMT
#2890
re: nasus discussion a couple pages back;

I find a ton of use and value in both sheen and phage, but finishing triforce before FH and various other tanky cdr items seems like it doesn't add much. Finishing Triforce seems to add a lil bit of sugar and spice to your nasus, whereas Phage is really useful in lane, especially when your lane opponent responds to your harass by building hp (ie, wriggles atmogs nida). Sheen is mo' damage, but I only find myself building it before Glacial Shroud if I feel like I'm wrecking the place and I wanna free kill anyone silly enough to come to my lane

also, while this won't be relevant discussion a few weeks from now, I find myself opening cloth/pots -> philo+ hog, and getting a tabi vs most top lane opponents, then selling tabi later on to pick up merc treads when we're no longer freefarming lanes. I do this because the tabi helps a shitload in lane, but I don't like any of the other tenacity items on Nasus. retarded?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
December 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#2891
They better figure out something else to do for Tabi (other than what they're trying now) or it's going to fall into the useless tier.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 22 2011 03:06 GMT
#2892
On December 22 2011 11:23 Flicky wrote:
This State of the League is the best. Even Travis is good.


Travis is an asshole.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
December 22 2011 03:12 GMT
#2893
Yeah, what kind of person would ever use a name like that?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 22 2011 03:27 GMT
#2894
"i would jerk off on jiji's face"
saintvicious is the best player in the world
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 22 2011 03:39 GMT
#2895
Hmmmm so I just got my dodge refund and immediately spent it on hybrid penetration runes, lol.

Has anyone found a good use for them?
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 03:50:04
December 22 2011 03:45 GMT
#2896
On December 22 2011 12:39 Haemonculus wrote:
Hmmmm so I just got my dodge refund and immediately spent it on hybrid penetration runes, lol.

Has anyone found a good use for them?

nidalee i think

o yea t-mo is a good one also
GANDHISAUCE
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
December 22 2011 04:12 GMT
#2897
On December 22 2011 07:02 JackDino wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/R1Tb6 Gentleman Veigar inc


More like Pimp Veigar in my eyes, with a monocle. I'll probably get it along with the Katarina skin if they look good ingame :D
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 04:35:16
December 22 2011 04:34 GMT
#2898
I'm pretty sure Morde is back to being good. My last three games (mid lane):

vs Morg: Huge farmfest for both of us.
vs Veigar: Easy lane for me, farm 5eva.
vs Tryn: Easy lane, outfarmed him by a lot until he got enough lifesteal to stay.

I've been bringing summoner heal rather than ignite because I'm going more for the push and farm forever strat rather than getting kills. If I brought ignite I'm sure I'd kill more but I'd also die more. Heal and flash basically nullifies any gank attempt on Morde. I had a Vayne, Maokai and Tryn all try to towerdive me at like level 8 and I ended up getting a kill. And of course you've got to play Morde as obnoxious as possible, meaning that the enemy wraiths and sometimes even your own wraiths = yours! :D

Btw, is the respawn time on the wraiths 50 seconds now?
Also, summoner heal works for your clone.
Retvrn to Forvms
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
December 22 2011 04:42 GMT
#2899
On December 22 2011 12:39 Haemonculus wrote:
Hmmmm so I just got my dodge refund and immediately spent it on hybrid penetration runes, lol.

Has anyone found a good use for them?


I was thinking they'd be pretty good on Mundo, who has 1 major physical source and 1 major magic source.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 22 2011 04:45 GMT
#2900
On December 22 2011 13:34 Chrispy wrote:
I'm pretty sure Morde is back to being good. My last three games (mid lane):

vs Morg: Huge farmfest for both of us.
vs Veigar: Easy lane for me, farm 5eva.
vs Tryn: Easy lane, outfarmed him by a lot until he got enough lifesteal to stay.

I've been bringing summoner heal rather than ignite because I'm going more for the push and farm forever strat rather than getting kills. If I brought ignite I'm sure I'd kill more but I'd also die more. Heal and flash basically nullifies any gank attempt on Morde. I had a Vayne, Maokai and Tryn all try to towerdive me at like level 8 and I ended up getting a kill. And of course you've got to play Morde as obnoxious as possible, meaning that the enemy wraiths and sometimes even your own wraiths = yours! :D

Btw, is the respawn time on the wraiths 50 seconds now?
Also, summoner heal works for your clone.

What is your item sequence for morde?
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