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On December 20 2011 08:34 57 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:07 TheYango wrote:On December 20 2011 06:21 Kaniol wrote:
Wat, doesn't QSS just remove CC at the moment of use? Galio's ulti retaunts for the entire duration so i don't know how would QSS counter it Galio ult doesn't re-taunt. It only does so once at the beginning. Proof point 1: If you walk into his ulti after he starts it, you don't get taunted (though you might still take the damage at the end). Proof point 2: If you have Mercs, you can walk out before its over. Proof point #1 is false, plenty of times I have had someone walk into my ult radius after it had started and they got taunted. It taunts each champion/whatever that is in for the 2 second duration when they first enter the taunt radius (or the taunt is started with them nearby) This is why tenacity lets you walk out before it is over. Basically: applies a 1 2 second taunt when entering radius, doesnt retaunt. Edit: So, PBE Shen looks like a really good jungle pick (besides not being AoE)
If this were the case, then it would not be possible for Janna to interrupt a Galio ultimate with her own, because she would get taunted before she could cast.
Except I'm pretty sure you CAN interrupt a Galio ultimate as Janna.
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On December 20 2011 08:40 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 08:34 57 Corvette wrote:On December 20 2011 07:07 TheYango wrote:On December 20 2011 06:21 Kaniol wrote:
Wat, doesn't QSS just remove CC at the moment of use? Galio's ulti retaunts for the entire duration so i don't know how would QSS counter it Galio ult doesn't re-taunt. It only does so once at the beginning. Proof point 1: If you walk into his ulti after he starts it, you don't get taunted (though you might still take the damage at the end). Proof point 2: If you have Mercs, you can walk out before its over. Proof point #1 is false, plenty of times I have had someone walk into my ult radius after it had started and they got taunted. It taunts each champion/whatever that is in for the 2 second duration when they first enter the taunt radius (or the taunt is started with them nearby) This is why tenacity lets you walk out before it is over. Basically: applies a 1 2 second taunt when entering radius, doesnt retaunt. Edit: So, PBE Shen looks like a really good jungle pick (besides not being AoE) If this were the case, then it would not be possible for Janna to interrupt a Galio ultimate with her own, because she would get taunted before she could cast. Except I'm pretty sure you CAN interrupt a Galio ultimate as Janna.
Well, I better get testing then. I don't know janna's ultimate radius, but if it is bigger than Galio's taunt radius then it is possible she can interrupt
Edit:
Janna's ult radius: 725
Galio's ult taunt radius: 550
Yeah, plenty of room for Janna to ult without being taunted
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that sad feeling when you see locicero in solo que but he isn't streaming 
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ya corvette's definitely right yo
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Nice find!
he seems like a jack of all trades type character with a focus on one of his abilities. I dig the amount of utility that he has and his W looks brutal if used correctly.
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How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself.
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On December 20 2011 09:19 Alaric wrote:
How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself.
build vamp scepter after philo then wriggles. Also, max w first if you don't do that already
you should be able to heal faster than he can hit you for.
edit: another alternative is to buy level 2 boots and red pot at level 6 and try and straight up kill him (if you have ignite).
If all else fails, just CS and call for jungle ganks
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I like how they confused Shyvana with Shaco somehow.
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wow that slowfield looks so brutal. And holy moly will people fail with all these skillshots and the ult with it's own micro haha i can't wait to see that
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On December 20 2011 09:19 Alaric wrote:
How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself.
He'll be oom in no time if he just keeps spamming his abilities.
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On December 20 2011 09:19 Alaric wrote:
How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself.
The cloth won't do anything. You may want it for the potions early but remember is e (which is his spam) does magic damage. Grab your null-magic (that's for your your merc treads anyways) early and maybe a philo stone. That should almost keep you alive. But really, it's one of those really tough counter lanes. Just never get yourself into that position.
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On December 20 2011 09:27 wintergt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:19 Alaric wrote:
How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself. He'll be oom in no time if he just keeps spamming his abilities.
Yorick takes forever to go oom
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On December 20 2011 09:19 Alaric wrote:
How would you beat Yorrick as Irelia? The one I'm fighting is obviously dumb, he's only spamming abilities w/o harass nor csing well nor pressure under turret, nothing. But with a cloth+5, armor runes, he still hits like a truck, totally retarded, and there's absolutely nothing I can do, be it to trade, beat his sustain, or just sustain myself.
Brush control is key against Yorick, and if he wards brushes, you get pinks.
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I maxed W and didn't make a philo, he'd still hit me for 300+ by launching all 3 ghouls if I wasn't turret hugging (base damage+the time it takes to get back to tower). Granted he started with 21 bonus AD at level 1, but by 3-4 he would just burst me, and autoattack whenever I'd try to heal back on minions, shrugging harass thanks to his sutain. I got out-potted long before he ran oom.
After that there's some other considerations, like the Shaco camping my tower and my jungler not able to capitalize on their 4v3 on the rest of the map, but by then the damage was already done. I'm running armor yellows and a mix of AS/ms on quints.
I could almost never outsustain him, since the slow on one of the ghouls (and the way they fuck up your pathing, real rage-inducing there) just allows him to run back whenever E's stun wears off, and patiently heal while punishing every cs you could try to get.
Edit : about bush control, I agree with that (and knew it already), but since he just spammed and pushed the lane from the very beginning, I didn't get the opportunity to stop the lane near my bushes.
On a merrier note, I really love Viktor. Looks like an utility monster that'd very well against bruisers top, kinda like Swain/Ryze/Kennen, perhaps more the former two for the tanky part. The way his E and R are used makes it look like Rylai'd be awesome on him for that.
Deep, heavily rewarding positioning, skillshots... I think I got my first day 1 buy there.
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The only person I have found that actually destroys yorick is tryndamere. Nasus can handle him decently though since yorick has low kill potential.
Basically the key vs yorick is to just grab someone who is capable of farming defensively. Going an offensive top against yorick is just asking to get your face mashed in.
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fucking sun in my eyes real
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Man Viktor looks really fun. Glad my dodge refund took a while otherwise I would've impulse bought Ahri.
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jax beats yorick
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TL I hereby ask thee: (thus? I suck at this.)
What's your method of dealing with games where champselect screams OH GAWD TROLLZ OH GAWD.
Think of 1-2 people who ramble on spanish, the obvious ME NO SUPPORT lastpick and where you just smell your teamcomp will be utterly retarded.
My usual approach is to grab some early game dominator (since they work well even if someone decides to lane with you for some reason) and try to gain some kind of momentum to snowball. Stuff like Pantheon. Sometimes it even works. =D
Anyone else got stuff that works for him in those spots?
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