EPT[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 8
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overt
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Owned Noob
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BlueBird.
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ManyCookies
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On November 29 2011 17:40 benefluence wrote: It's pretty obviously ice themed, isn't it? Blizzard Janna, maybe. Its crystals dude.... Riot loves crystals. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 29 2011 18:20 Treadmill wrote: Its crystals dude.... Riot loves crystals. You mean gems. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
Gems are only for Taric. But with the advent of Skarner EVERYBODY GETS CRYSTALS! | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 29 2011 18:22 Treadmill wrote: Gems are only for Taric. But with the advent of Skarner EVERYBODY GETS CRYSTALS! Yes that's why Gems, it's actually a Taric skin, thought it was pretty clear. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On November 29 2011 18:05 TheYango wrote: It depends how the new jungle is across the board. She will clear better, but her insane gank potential is wasted if junglers can't gank that often without falling behind because of the faster respawn times. Oh I don't know, that gank potential comes from all the same stuff that gives her teamfight strength. If nobody is great on the basis of their ganking power now it's not like that puts her behind the curve, she's fantastic in group fights of any kind. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On November 29 2011 15:25 redtooth wrote: you've been waiting your whole life to make the general discussion thread haven't you One step closer to being moonbear, he's done it too. i actually waited hella long. saw the patch notes were up, went and got a drink, texted a friend a few times, wandered back into the kitchen to see if there was some pie left, had some casu marzu, came back, was like, fuck it I'll take it | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On November 29 2011 18:24 JackDino wrote: Yes that's why Gems, it's actually a Taric skin, thought it was pretty clear. Oh yeah, of course, that actually makes sense. I was misled by the skanky outfit, but you're right it has to be Taric. He was deserving a skanky outfit too. Now I want Alistar in a speedo! | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:19 STS17 wrote: Jungle spawns are quicker and they have increased the gold value of the camps. Both of these promote farming in the jungle instead of trying to gank lanes meaning there is a greater emphasis on his strength (clearing camps quickly and farming the jungle) than his weakness (ganking lanes) so this is an indirect buff to him. Of course this is all speculation, not to mention relative since the other jungler will be getting more farm as well, but if my suspicion that they are trying to bring jungle-farm in line with lane-farm is correct then things should turn out well. Farming jungle is promoted yes, but the patch notes say the reduced the gold value of camps, which means it should probably even out. But like you said, this is just speculation x] | ||
TheYango
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On November 29 2011 18:30 Ryuu314 wrote: Farming jungle is promoted yes, but the patch notes say the reduced the gold value of camps, which means it should probably even out. But like you said, this is just speculation x] The gold value starts out lower, but unlike it currently is, the gold value of camps increases as the game progresses. | ||
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Ruken
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JackDino
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TheYango
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On November 29 2011 18:25 UniversalSnip wrote: Oh I don't know, that gank potential comes from all the same stuff that gives her teamfight strength. If nobody is great on the basis of their ganking power now it's not like that puts her behind the curve, she's fantastic in group fights of any kind. The thing is, there are a lot of junglers that are competitive now that have weaker ganks than her, particularly early on. It puts her behind those guys because they're hurt less by the inability to gank time-efficiently. On November 29 2011 18:55 JackDino wrote: It's funny how everyone forgets how good it can be for your team to sacrafice some farm and set a lane back by ganking them because the jungle potentionally has more gold. It's sort of self-reinforcing. The guys that are good at farming the jungle are the guys that don't want to trade their farm to stunt the development of another lane because of how they scale so hard. The guys that have mediocre or shitty scaling and can afford to sacrifice their own development in order to stunt a lane's development are the guys that farm too slowly and therefore might not be compelling in the new jungle to begin with (e.g. Nunu). Giving up your farm to stop someone else's development or to protect the development of someone on your team is only as good as the tradeoff between your scaling. It's not worth it for you to give up your farm to stop someone if you outscale them to begin with. Two players both farming favors the champ that scales better, two players neither farming favors the champ that scales worse. As it stands, most common junglers scale comparably to top laners, better than APs, and worse than bot lane ADs (which are unfortunately often the hardest to gank, because of earlier and more complete ward coverage). | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
These kind of bugs makes you think how bad their code quality really is. And good to know that KogMaw bug with double kill was actually gave gold to the killer, not just a cosmetic bug, happened to me twice :C | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
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UniversalSnip
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On November 29 2011 19:02 TheYango wrote: The thing is, there are a lot of junglers that are competitive now that have weaker ganks than her, particularly early on. It puts her behind those guys because they're hurt less by the inability to gank time-efficiently. Well, that's not really what I meant... I'm just saying ganks are not her only strength and she probably will gain considerable farming ability so it seems unlikely they ruined jungle leona. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Anyone tried him out yet? | ||
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