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[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 75

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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#1481
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#1482
Teemo pretty much shits on any melee without a big gap-closer. And then of course he provides incredible map control throughout the entire game by completing locking down huge chunks of the map. He falls off a bit late game but is still a contributing member of his team.
I am the Town Medic.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 02 2011 22:54 GMT
#1483
vayne has the best kit amongst the ad's against riven, i've beaten caitlyns before though so the range diference isn't as all-owning as some people might assume. but even as vayne, i dont think you should be able to completely shut down riven due to the presence of bushes (e->w is nearly instant so very few vaynes should be able to q away in time).
level 1 i think vayne would have a little difficulty avoiding riven completely, and if she's running boots3pot it comes down to how fast riven can force vayne to chug all her pots and junglers' willingness to gank either side (both gankable but difficult due to their mobility and kits). when they both hit level 6 i can't see vayne running away from a aggressive riven without blowing 1 or 2 summoners though, and its low cd allows riven to apply pressure from thereafter
against tricky matchups like that i would probably run an combat summoner instead of TP
Hey! Listen!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 22:55 GMT
#1484
Nothing stops them from warding the brush >.>
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#1485
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17962291

legendary warwick skin inc lol

inb4 ww buff
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#1486
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?


i'm not a fanboy, i just saw it and i think it should work well if you can get your team pick accordingly. so i thought i'll mention it. i don't get your question?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2011 23:03 GMT
#1487
On December 03 2011 08:01 emucxg wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17962291

legendary warwick skin inc lol

inb4 ww buff


That looks so butt, lololol.
I'll stick with my Urf. <3
Even Firefang looks better than a Hyena. :<
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#1488
What will happen to vlad vs ww when the legendary skin is out.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#1489
On December 03 2011 08:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:01 emucxg wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17962291

legendary warwick skin inc lol

inb4 ww buff


That looks so butt, lololol.
I'll stick with my Urf. <3
Even Firefang looks better than a Hyena. :<


seriously hyena ww so bad
classic skin very good
granny skin pretty good
most of his other skins are poopoo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#1490
WW Skin will not be legendary. But yah, Firefang/Urf skins are cooler imoimo.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 02 2011 23:13 GMT
#1491
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 23:13 GMT
#1492
On December 03 2011 08:08 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:01 emucxg wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17962291

legendary warwick skin inc lol

inb4 ww buff


That looks so butt, lololol.
I'll stick with my Urf. <3
Even Firefang looks better than a Hyena. :<


seriously hyena ww so bad
classic skin very good
granny skin pretty good
most of his other skins are poopoo

Wow. Cant even get a positive vote from teh #1 WW apologist.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 23:14 GMT
#1493
On December 03 2011 08:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^

And that makes suggesting a RANGED ad carry against a MELEE top you a fanboy how? People have been suggesting carries vs strong melee top since like forever.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 02 2011 23:17 GMT
#1494
what about VAYNE or some other ranged AD top...Sorry for thinking he singled out Vayne because voyboy has been destroying people with it for weeks. Clearly you guys aren't fanboy enough ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 23:18 GMT
#1495
On December 03 2011 08:14 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^

And that makes suggesting a RANGED ad carry against a MELEE top you a fanboy how? People have been suggesting carries vs strong melee top since like forever.

Blitz is #1 Dignitas fanboi. He wants to find more of his kind.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 02 2011 23:18 GMT
#1496
On December 03 2011 08:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^


People were running Vayne top since almost her release. See: Westrice.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 02 2011 23:20 GMT
#1497
On December 03 2011 08:18 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^


People were running Vayne top since almost her release. See: Westrice.

release vayne mid was the most broken op shit ever.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 02 2011 23:22 GMT
#1498
On December 03 2011 08:18 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:14 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:51 JackDino wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:39 DoXa wrote:
what about vayne or some other ranged AD top vs Riven? they should be able to harass her quite hard and you should be able to walk out of her Q range once she starts to jump around.


So are you a Dignitas fanboy or just a voyboy fanboy?

Since when is suggesting an ad carry against a melee top being a dignitas/voyboy fanboy lol.


Cause voyboy has been playing Vayne solotop for awhile now ^_^

And that makes suggesting a RANGED ad carry against a MELEE top you a fanboy how? People have been suggesting carries vs strong melee top since like forever.

Blitz is #1 Dignitas fanboi. He wants to find more of his kind.


I still have neo. Unless he deserted recently ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 02 2011 23:27 GMT
#1499
On December 03 2011 08:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:08 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:01 emucxg wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17962291

legendary warwick skin inc lol

inb4 ww buff


That looks so butt, lololol.
I'll stick with my Urf. <3
Even Firefang looks better than a Hyena. :<


seriously hyena ww so bad
classic skin very good
granny skin pretty good
most of his other skins are poopoo

Wow. Cant even get a positive vote from teh #1 WW apologist.


good champ poor art
like trundle
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 02 2011 23:43 GMT
#1500
On December 03 2011 07:51 Alzadar wrote:
Teemo pretty much shits on any melee without a big gap-closer. And then of course he provides incredible map control throughout the entire game by completing locking down huge chunks of the map. He falls off a bit late game but is still a contributing member of his team.

Even melee WITH gap control have a serious problem vs Teemo if they rely on autoattacks (Trynd, Xin, etc) or can't also escape after jumping on teemo. Blind -> exhaust -> blind and by then they're probably dead.

And come level 6 Teemo, if he's advantaged in his lane, the other solotop is screwed because ganking through a field of mushrooms is just not going to work. Unfortunately in teamfights he mostly acts as a slightly short range AD carry (not the worst thing in the world) who has poor cc (blind can really only shut down AD-based people) Frozen mallet does worlds to fix this lack of utility, and what teemo does do for his team is provide all sorts of zone control if he's allowed to set an area up before a fight actually breaks out. Oracles makes him sadteemo, but since when do people never ward just cause there's an oracle? You still get to see important shit!
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