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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.
Never give up. Never compromise your ideals. You can be that example. If Bob can do it, so can you. No one ever became big overnight. I have complete confidence you could most easily get over 5k viewers by simply being yourself. You just gotta keep going along if it's something you really want to do.
When all else fails just go crazy and speak like teemo. Everyone likes teemo.
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On December 02 2011 15:57 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 15:49 barbsq wrote:On December 02 2011 14:47 taLbuk wrote:On December 02 2011 14:41 BlueBird. wrote: I don't see a problem with the featured streamer at all, Riot is trying to promote their game and their competitive scene, awesome!.. At the end of the day, you have a business and you need people with a good image to promote your business, It's pretty obvious as entertaining as SV and Hotshot might be they are not the desired image that Riot wants out there. Some people are easier to put out in front of the public, you see this with any game that is an e-sport.. the problem is that is RIOT doing everything these days, in other esports such as sc2 is not blizzard doing everything, they have a hands off approach and let the community and tournaments build themselves a sustainable environment, while riot has their hands in everything, which is good short term, but bad long term. how do you know it's bad long term? because riot cant do this forever. 1 day the teemo skin sales are going to dry up. if the community cant sustain itself then either you wont get anything or the quality of content will drop down. the lol scene needs to be weaned off riots money slowly if it can be, then it has a chance to survive in the long term.
That would only make sence if there would be no new players, wich is not true.
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I got carried like crazy tonight by my solo lanes. Feels good, man.
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Other than Bob's stream, which is really never been about high level play, I think yours is the one with the most viewers for someone not actually on a pro team. I think you average like 300-500 with a peak of 2k, which is a pretty large amount of people. You'd probably go up a bit if you were on a team, but several hundred isn't really a small number. I'm thrilled if I get 15.
Also, if I have TRM's stream on for whatever reason (maybe once a month) it's muted 100% of the time, but I prefer to watch jiji over anyone else.
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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment. You gotta do da sunglasses. On a serious note, rainman has been streaming for much longer and he's featured on tsm. Being featured just gets you a lot more viewers by default. First time I checked his stream I saw a half naked dude streaming with sunglasses indoors, was also the last time I checked that stream lol.
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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.
Yeah, I mostly watch high level streamers without sound, and I think (or hope) that is the answer to your questions. But if you were around when TreeEskimo streamed the most he was the favorite of many people and had relatively many viewers at that time. What he did was completely different from what most top elo streamers are doing now and he was very popular.
He simply commentated his games and was good at it and never raged or used these retarded "bro" "jelly" "dude" etc words.
Unfortunatly, TreeEskimo streams rarely now/is not as good anymore so I would love a stream with some normal acting person doing a little commentary on why he did what etc.
I personally believe that if a new streamer starts doing what TreeEski did he (and is good at it) will slowly get a lot of viewers as people find it.
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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.
You think top athletes in other sports are all well-mannered?
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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.
Which is why I stopped watching lol streams these days. Typical day: I get my dinner, look at the streams, see rainman regi hsgg, but no shushei loci gbob, then I sadly go to youtube and watch some husky monobattles. Actually even elementz rages too much for my liking.
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Shushei is streaming dressed as Santa Claus
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Yeah I'm watching it over lunch now. Somehow he rarely streams at my dinnertime these days though.
Edit: Oh one piece of feedback for locicebro though. Personally, to me it gets a little boring sometimes watching the same ryze pantheon lux over and over (at least during the times I was watching).
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On December 02 2011 17:10 yenta wrote:Shushei is streaming dressed as Santa Claus 
This is the best. He gets a kill with Kog's passive.
"HOHOHO I GOT YOU!"
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"oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, I got him!!! HO HO HOOOO!" good times
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All of the other big ESPORTS titles that I can think of are sequels to games that were in the right place at the right time. I think any upstart game would need significant push from its developer to build a scene that can become self-sustaining.
Besides, companies like Blizzard do push their players to check out the ESPORTS scene pretty hard on their sites, through social media, by working with tournament companies etc.
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It's not like if you're an RTS fan you're tempted to go watch command and conquer streams over bw or sc2. But if I play moba's I am tempted to watch dota2/hon as well as LoL.
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On December 02 2011 17:45 rob.au wrote: It's not like if you're an RTS fan you're tempted to go watch command and conquer streams over bw or sc2. But if I play moba's I am tempted to watch dota2/hon as well as LoL.
WHAT COMMAND AND CONQUER STREAMS!?!?!?!?!?!
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On December 02 2011 17:09 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment. You think top athletes in other sports are all well-mannered?
The difference is that we don't have to hear them talk the entire time when watching them play. It's either watch them play with no game sounds no talking nothing or hear it all.
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On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.
You should find those other diamonds in the rough, the players who are good but not ragers/egotists, and make a serious team based around that.
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Since my lovely LoL keeps pissing me off I finally decided to try out DotA 2.
Anyone here who can teach me the ropes? I obviously have fuck no idea with which heroes to start, who does what and which items works how. The "Beginners guides" I'm finding are kinda all over the place and I'd love someone who can be like "This is xy it's similar to yz from LoL" to get into stuff quickly.
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Random champ and read abilities is the best way to learn.
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On December 02 2011 17:54 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote: I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment. You should find those other diamonds in the rough, the players who are good but not ragers/egotists, and make a serious team based around that.
This times 100.
To be completely honest, your stream is the single and only one that's setting an example in terms of skill, behaviour and personality in this game.
Please go ahead and try to find some NA people who feel similar about your stream and build a team around that. I'm pretty damn sure there are those people in the 1700/1800 elo range and above who are like that. (And I'm a total believer that if you get it going they don't need to be much higher since you'll be able to push them over the edge.)
fighting~!!
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