I've been watching only EU streams for a while now, and to be honest, this elitist attitude that most NA teams have, where each player individually thinks they are the best is really annoying. It's not only horrible to watch, but also affects their ability to play as a team, and this is seen prominently whenever NA teams scrim. A team that is winning will play cool with each other, and just win the game, whereas a team that is losing keeps arguing and blaming each other for nothing, instead of trying to get back in to the game.

Fnatic is a prime example of how chill EU teams are when playing, and even SK and Absolute Legends are calm about their play in comparison to NA teams, and this greatly increases the entertainment value, atleast for me, especially when they scrim as teams instead of solo queue. People are willing to admit their mistakes and then look to solve them and get ahead.

While I admit it can be fun to watch some of the NA streamers, simply for how skilled they are when they play, I find NA team scrims horrible to watch ._.

While swearing is not appreciated, I don't think its the only problem, I mean I myself have been personally pissed to the point of swearing by dumb team mates, but some people take it to another level. I mean its not fun to have to tune into a stream, and hear a string of curses directed at someone.

Edit: I always see bob's stream featured, and a high number of viewers, but I never really watched him much, did he get popular for being manner?

unichan

United States4223 Posts

December 02 2011 13:40 GMT

#1263

I rarely watch stream anymore if ever ^_^... I'll open it up, mute it, tab out, and close it like an hour later. I used to religiously watch treeeskimo and hotshotgg a year ago, but everything has gotten so stupid. It's hard to deal with TSM trying to act all boss and gangsta when they are clearly not. Chaox is chill but he says dude or w/e every fucking 5 seconds. Oddone is the only one I can watch for the longest, at first his weirdo rage was entertaining, but I like him because he admits when he fucked up pretty much every single time. Rainman has entertainment factor for about 5 seconds with his screaming and all caps, but then he gets annoying. Xpecial is okay, but he's boring. And then there's Regi, notorious womanizer, not cute, most annoying vocabulary and attitude on the planet. CLG is marginally better. Jiji is cool, but I don't like his music that everyone loves so much. Chauster has always been a dirtbag even before that shit went down, I remember his cool 4v5 win with ashe but that's it. Saint is okay, but his voice is kind of weird. I used to watch hotshot all the time when he was pretty much the only streamer... now he's like a little fucking girl, crying whenever he's losing the game and even when he's winning the game about what his team is doing wrong and how he is a fucking god and how his team would be stomping soo hard if they only had as deep of a game understanding as him. Doublelift's face isn't great to look at. Elementz is lol. Westrice and Salce are pretty good to watch, but west plays the same champs every game. Am I forgetting anyone? Oh, I don't watch female streamers. I don't watch EU streamers, I don't like european accents. I like Chinese/Korean stream though, too bad selection from these is scarce. I don't watch Gman bob, I don't like his music and he's not high rated. A lot of my friends don't play anymore either, I liked to watch whatever stream they got on. Now I have like 4 friends who play consistently enough to appear on stream.

But you know whose stream I'd watch every time? Whatsupchan. Too bad he bought a webcam, streamed once, then never again.

jaelerin

United States36 Posts

December 02 2011 13:40 GMT

#1264

Glad I'm not the only one fed up with the constant BM and generally horrible attitude of a disturbing amount of the LoL community. Over half the games I'm in, someone getting screamed at by their own team. Often times it's completely wrong info too.

Unfortunately, it starts at the top, with the streamers. I don't care how good you are, if you suck as a person, I don't enjoy watching you play.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

December 02 2011 13:41 GMT

#1265

He's manner, talks about what he does sometimes (bit of insight), good and eclectic musical tastes, generally chill.

unichan

United States4223 Posts

December 02 2011 13:41 GMT

#1266

On December 02 2011 22:27 Ziken wrote:
Edit: I always see bob's stream featured, and a high number of viewers, but I never really watched him much, did he get popular for being manner?

He got popular after that showmatch where he raped with udyr, people started to watch his stream and stayed because they liked his "I don't care" attitude and music.

DrKlingmann

Poland356 Posts

December 02 2011 14:01 GMT

#1267

Actually theoddone is the only NA streamer I can watch now.
Much prefer EU. Even if they talk in Russian or French.

Deltablazy

Canada580 Posts

December 02 2011 14:08 GMT

#1268

How would you build the new sivir?

I usually build triple bt (lol) but I see people getting atmogs+bt or something tanky. I tend to fall off late game making my 3 bts useless and cant carry.

epoc

Finland1190 Posts

December 02 2011 14:17 GMT

#1269

What counters olaf top? I play him myself much and don't really know an answer to this

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

December 02 2011 14:18 GMT

#1270

Unichan, you are VERY picky lol.

seRapH

United States9808 Posts

December 02 2011 14:25 GMT

#1271

On December 02 2011 23:17 epoc wrote:
What counters olaf top? I play him myself much and don't really know an answer to this

rumble's fairly strong. and by fairly i mean olaf is probably going to die. riven can trade very well too.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

December 02 2011 14:36 GMT

#1272

On December 02 2011 23:17 epoc wrote:
What counters olaf top? I play him myself much and don't really know an answer to this

Any of the good solo tops tbh and ganks. He has no escapes after all.

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

December 02 2011 14:43 GMT

#1273

On December 02 2011 23:08 Deltablazy wrote:
How would you build the new sivir?

I usually build triple bt (lol) but I see people getting atmogs+bt or something tanky. I tend to fall off late game making my 3 bts useless and cant carry.

Bloodthirster first, then Atmogs imo.

br0fivE

Canada349 Posts

December 02 2011 14:43 GMT

#1274

Rainmans stream was unbearable, terrible streamer (though good player) dont think ill ever click on his stream even if its the last resort. He NEEDS to cleanup his act because im sure hes only attracting the 14-17 age range

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

December 02 2011 14:54 GMT

#1275

Question i dont really have the time and possibility to answer. If i get Sona's power chord with only ultimates, with no aura active, what its effect will be?

ihasaKAROT

Netherlands4730 Posts

December 02 2011 15:05 GMT

#1276

Theres no way to find out, your team would have left you in the desert by that point already

Sabin010

United States1892 Posts

December 02 2011 15:06 GMT

#1277

i didn't think crashendo gave passive stacks.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

December 02 2011 15:10 GMT

#1278

There is no point in Atmogs on Sivir now. Build her pure AD + APen. BT, LW, maybe Manamune, Bruta, CDR Boots. Your last 2 items should be IE + PD.

The new Sivir should do best as a squishy ranged AD that mostly relies on her Q.