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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 02 2011 15:25 GMT
#1281
On December 02 2011 23:01 DrKlingmann wrote:
Actually theoddone is the only NA streamer I can watch now.
Much prefer EU. Even if they talk in Russian or French.

Oh god. You should be very happy you don't understand French then, because Skyyart is swearing way more than US players when he is pissed :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Shanba
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland144 Posts
December 02 2011 15:34 GMT
#1282
On December 02 2011 23:54 shinarit wrote:
Question i dont really have the time and possibility to answer. If i get Sona's power chord with only ultimates, with no aura active, what its effect will be?

I tried it out in a custom game cause I was bored. You have the "power chord ready" buff but you don't shoot a power chord at all.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 02 2011 15:37 GMT
#1283
I just watched Rainmans stream for the first time last night and I think it's been then only time where a stream has been completely unwatchable. Had to turn it off after a couple minutes. It was just him screaming non-stop. Who watches that shit wtf? Oddone and doublelift are the best stream imo. They don't rage too much, admit to messing up at times, and actually say helpful things.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#1284
I'm not against the idea of a highlighted streamer, but Riot absolutely should not be doing it.

I mean seriously - first a spotlight to draw people's attention, then ANOTHER announcement saying "He's streaming now come look!"?? I have nothing against Shushei - I think he's a good player and has a very helpful stream - but Riot should not be handing him money like that. Can you imagine if Blizzard picks a SC2 streamer and publishes it on their website, or if the NBA hands a check to what they decide to be a "helpful" player?

Saying other streamers will be featured does not help. The first featured streamer will generate much more buzz and attention than subsequent ones.

Riot has always been micromanaging everything related to their game, but they seriously need to stop picking favorites like this. It's extremely biased and subjective (why were Salce and TreeEskimo not picked? they are very manner and have helpful streams). If Riot wants to promote good behavior on streams, this is not the way to do it.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#1285
Streams aren't really fun for me unless it's a scrimmage. If they're just facing randoms on the ladder, they always stomp them so hard it's not funny or enjoyable.
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 02 2011 15:47 GMT
#1286
On December 03 2011 00:40 Sandster wrote:
I'm not against the idea of a highlighted streamer, but Riot absolutely should not be doing it.

I mean seriously - first a spotlight to draw people's attention, then ANOTHER announcement saying "He's streaming now come look!"?? I have nothing against Shushei - I think he's a good player and has a very helpful stream - but Riot should not be handing him money like that. Can you imagine if Blizzard picks a SC2 streamer and publishes it on their website, or if the NBA hands a check to what they decide to be a "helpful" player?

Saying other streamers will be featured does not help. The first featured streamer will generate much more buzz and attention than subsequent ones.

Riot has always been micromanaging everything related to their game, but they seriously need to stop picking favorites like this. It's extremely biased and subjective (why were Salce and TreeEskimo not picked? they are very manner and have helpful streams). If Riot wants to promote good behavior on streams, this is not the way to do it.


Yeah, I tuned into HSGG's stream for a little and he was ranting about it (surprise!) but I have to agree.

As far as streams go I pretty much watch Snoopeh or Loci. Both are articulate, comment on their play, and have minimal rage/ bad attitude.

@Loci please keep streaming, if I ever see yours go live I stop what I'm doing and switch. Favorite streamer by far. Oscar Peterson in the background is a plus :D
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 16:10 GMT
#1287
Right now sushei has 19000 viewers, and he has been streaming for 8 hours. Riot just paid him $2k+.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 16:15:31
December 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#1288
On December 03 2011 00:37 DEN1ED wrote:
I just watched Rainmans stream for the first time last night and I think it's been then only time where a stream has been completely unwatchable. Had to turn it off after a couple minutes. It was just him screaming non-stop. Who watches that shit wtf? Oddone and doublelift are the best stream imo. They don't rage too much, admit to messing up at times, and actually say helpful things.

really? I've only watched Oddone a couple of times but both times I tuned into him raging which made me not want to watch anymore. it was probably just bad timing. I do wish he was less of a mini Regi with all the bro bro bro stuff. I'm actually ok with Regi being like that since he's that kind of person but I think Oddone would be more interesting if the TSM personality didn't rub off on him so much.

also when Reginald is in tryhard teaching mode he's actually really helpful. he's not afraid to call out his own mistakes and doesn't rage at his team beyond just pointing out if they made a bad play.
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DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
December 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#1289
On December 03 2011 00:40 Sandster wrote:
I'm not against the idea of a highlighted streamer, but Riot absolutely should not be doing it.

I mean seriously - first a spotlight to draw people's attention, then ANOTHER announcement saying "He's streaming now come look!"?? I have nothing against Shushei - I think he's a good player and has a very helpful stream - but Riot should not be handing him money like that. Can you imagine if Blizzard picks a SC2 streamer and publishes it on their website, or if the NBA hands a check to what they decide to be a "helpful" player?

Saying other streamers will be featured does not help. The first featured streamer will generate much more buzz and attention than subsequent ones.

Riot has always been micromanaging everything related to their game, but they seriously need to stop picking favorites like this. It's extremely biased and subjective (why were Salce and TreeEskimo not picked? they are very manner and have helpful streams). If Riot wants to promote good behavior on streams, this is not the way to do it.


Well.. and I disagree.. there you have it. Now who is right about what RIOT should and what RIOT shouldn't do? :-P
And I have to say your last sentence is completely false.
In my opinion if RIOT wants to promote good behavior it's exactly the way to do it.


They had their reasons to make Shushei first one in those spotlights.
For example I could easily see TreeEskimo in those spotlights but he is completely different kind of streamer. (BTW I haven't seen him stream for a long time now.)

On another note.. How long has he been streaming now?
It's 5PM here in Poland and it looks to me like he is streaming for at least 20h.
He was streaming around 10PM yesterday.
Still streaming at 1AM. Then I woke up around 7AM and he is still streaming...
Whole time I'm at work he is streaming.. WOW. Run for your $ boy :D

On December 03 2011 00:25 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 23:01 DrKlingmann wrote:
Actually theoddone is the only NA streamer I can watch now.
Much prefer EU. Even if they talk in Russian or French.

Oh god. You should be very happy you don't understand French then, because Skyyart is swearing way more than US players when he is pissed :p

I never said I don't understand French. ;>
Tho I don't understand it good enuf...
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 16:14:46
December 02 2011 16:13 GMT
#1290
Getting paid several hundreds to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 16:14:36
December 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#1291
derp
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 16:15 GMT
#1292
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2011 16:16 GMT
#1293
On December 03 2011 01:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.


Rhetorical question, TD. zz
I actually don't stream because my internet upload is pretty shitty.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 16:18 GMT
#1294
On December 03 2011 01:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.


Rhetorical question, TD. zz
I actually don't stream because my internet upload is pretty shitty.

YOU WANT THE TRUTH?


YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 02 2011 16:19 GMT
#1295
On December 03 2011 01:11 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:37 DEN1ED wrote:
I just watched Rainmans stream for the first time last night and I think it's been then only time where a stream has been completely unwatchable. Had to turn it off after a couple minutes. It was just him screaming non-stop. Who watches that shit wtf? Oddone and doublelift are the best stream imo. They don't rage too much, admit to messing up at times, and actually say helpful things.

really? I've only watched Oddone a couple of times but both times I tuned into him raging which made me not want to watch anymore. it was probably just bad timing. I do wish he was less of a mini Regi with all the bro bro bro stuff. I'm actually ok with Regi being like that since he's that kind of person but I think Oddone would be more interesting if the TSM personality didn't rub off on him so much.

also when Reginald is in tryhard teaching mode he's actually really helpful. he's not afraid to call out his own mistakes and doesn't rage at his team beyond just pointing out if they made a bad play.

Oddone can rage hard, but his rage is honestly the most unique rage out of all of them. One of my fondest memories of early 2011 LoL was Oddone saying hi to me on vent, and me derping out and going HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHHEHEHHEHEHHEHEH. He's different from all of the other streamers in that he isn't completely full of himself and pretty much always admits when he has done wrong.

I think Oddone would be more interesting if the TSM personality didn't rub off on him so much.

Yeah.
:)
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 02 2011 16:20 GMT
#1296
On December 03 2011 01:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.


Rhetorical question, TD. zz
I actually don't stream because my internet upload is pretty shitty.

How much upload do you need? I have a better computer now so I might stream myself playing random shit for my RL friends, but idk stuff. I don't even know if my computer is good enough.
:)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 16:22 GMT
#1297
On December 03 2011 01:20 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.


Rhetorical question, TD. zz
I actually don't stream because my internet upload is pretty shitty.

How much upload do you need? I have a better computer now so I might stream myself playing random shit for my RL friends, but idk stuff. I don't even know if my computer is good enough.

Make an account on owned and try it out. My comp can handle decent settings, but I have yet to figure out how to make it so I dont drop fps when my stream is on.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
December 02 2011 16:22 GMT
#1298
On December 03 2011 01:12 DrKlingmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:40 Sandster wrote:
I'm not against the idea of a highlighted streamer, but Riot absolutely should not be doing it.

I mean seriously - first a spotlight to draw people's attention, then ANOTHER announcement saying "He's streaming now come look!"?? I have nothing against Shushei - I think he's a good player and has a very helpful stream - but Riot should not be handing him money like that. Can you imagine if Blizzard picks a SC2 streamer and publishes it on their website, or if the NBA hands a check to what they decide to be a "helpful" player?

Saying other streamers will be featured does not help. The first featured streamer will generate much more buzz and attention than subsequent ones.

Riot has always been micromanaging everything related to their game, but they seriously need to stop picking favorites like this. It's extremely biased and subjective (why were Salce and TreeEskimo not picked? they are very manner and have helpful streams). If Riot wants to promote good behavior on streams, this is not the way to do it.


Well.. and I disagree.. there you have it. Now who is right about what RIOT should and what RIOT shouldn't do? :-P
And I have to say your last sentence is completely false.
In my opinion if RIOT wants to promote good behavior it's exactly the way to do it.


I don't mean it's not effective; I mean it's not really appropriate. Riot is the creator of the game and should be as impartial as possible to individual players, because otherwise it's unequal treatment for its player base. If you don't agree with this then...well, we just have different perspectives.

I listed Salce and Tree as two players that not many people talk about as streamers, but meet the criteria just as well as Shusei (and I think Salce has about the same average viewers). Why was Shusei selected and not one of the countless skilled, mannered, and well known players?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2011 16:23 GMT
#1299
On December 03 2011 01:20 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Getting paid 1K to play a normal game with SotO Shaco. Pretty nice gig Shushei. :>

Makes me wonder why I don't stream... huehue. Online ads are so imba.

Cuz no one but us and high elo players have any idea who the fuck you are.


Rhetorical question, TD. zz
I actually don't stream because my internet upload is pretty shitty.

How much upload do you need? I have a better computer now so I might stream myself playing random shit for my RL friends, but idk stuff. I don't even know if my computer is good enough.


tbh, I'm not exactly sure. I've had the XSplit Installer exe downloaded for over a month now, but haven't tried to set it up. I can't even watch a stream of a scrim and play a game at the same time, so my motivation to try to set up a stream is pretty low, haha.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2011 16:25 GMT
#1300
On December 03 2011 01:19 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:11 starfries wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:37 DEN1ED wrote:
I just watched Rainmans stream for the first time last night and I think it's been then only time where a stream has been completely unwatchable. Had to turn it off after a couple minutes. It was just him screaming non-stop. Who watches that shit wtf? Oddone and doublelift are the best stream imo. They don't rage too much, admit to messing up at times, and actually say helpful things.

really? I've only watched Oddone a couple of times but both times I tuned into him raging which made me not want to watch anymore. it was probably just bad timing. I do wish he was less of a mini Regi with all the bro bro bro stuff. I'm actually ok with Regi being like that since he's that kind of person but I think Oddone would be more interesting if the TSM personality didn't rub off on him so much.

also when Reginald is in tryhard teaching mode he's actually really helpful. he's not afraid to call out his own mistakes and doesn't rage at his team beyond just pointing out if they made a bad play.

Oddone can rage hard, but his rage is honestly the most unique rage out of all of them. One of my fondest memories of early 2011 LoL was Oddone saying hi to me on vent, and me derping out and going HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHHEHEHHEHEHHEHEH. He's different from all of the other streamers in that he isn't completely full of himself and pretty much always admits when he has done wrong.

Show nested quote +
I think Oddone would be more interesting if the TSM personality didn't rub off on him so much.

Yeah.


OddOne has always been a rager, even before he started streaming. He'd yell a lot over vent during beta games.
Regi's personality has definitely rubbed off on OddOne and I can't exactly say that it's for the better, haha.

He is definitely upfront about his mistakes though. But at the same time, he can be really critical about his teammates as well. Solo q is real srs bsns.
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