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On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless.
I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead.
You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^
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On December 09 2011 08:59 Bladeorade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:34 Demonace34 wrote:On December 09 2011 07:29 Bladeorade wrote:On December 09 2011 07:23 Vaporized wrote:
whats everyones thoughts on yorick these days. i just bought him recently cuz i wanted to play a bruiser champ (i mainly play ryze, zilean, or tristana). ive played 5 or so games so far and gotten better each time.
i run 9/21/0 and armor yellows, mres blue, arpen reds and quints.
for items i go manamune +merc treads for early game goals, into triforce + glacial shroud, and finish with warmogs + atmas late game. i just started experimenting with triforce this morning when i played and it felt a lot better then rushing a warmogs or something.
my first games i was getting spirit visage +glacial shroud in the mid game into warmogs but im not really feeling SV much. i didnt do enough damage with SV.
i read yorick was strong early game with a somewhat weaker late game, but as he stands now it feels opposite. i can sustain and farm fairly well early game, but late game with triforce, warmogs, and atmas i was just wrecking people. team fights are a blast too late game, i ult myself because i have 330ad and we just rolled over the other team. Yorick is strong in lane. Always harass, never die. E and W all day. Start harass at level 1. His damage does fall off late but if you Ult your AD carry its OP. Vayne/Yorick/Zilean too strong On December 09 2011 07:26 Demonace34 wrote:On December 09 2011 07:22 Bladeorade wrote:
TRM 13K viewers making a complete ass of himself and not even looking like a good player
Double lift 4K Well most people want to see drama and raging, so that is why you see the number difference. People don't just watch IdrA because he is the best Zerg in the world do they? Stop complaining about who is getting viewers and just watch your favorite streamer, anti-fans are no fun. Most people want to see drama and raging? There goes my perspective on Teenage to Early 20s males. Personally that sort of bull shit is a huge turn off. Idra is nothing like any of the ragers I have seen in LoL. LoL rage is just all caps full retard mode, and at the professional level you would never see that in SC2. I don't get why that would attract viewers but if you say people want to watch it and people are watching it then it must. Mind boggling. Why do people watch Real World or Jersey Shore, the entertainment comes from watching drama unfold and play out. Why do newspapers and channel 5 have a ton of death and destruction on the front page/screen? If it bleeds it leads, people like that type of stuff. The difference in my comparison of IdrA is that everyone is basically well mannered in SC2 and treats gg as something to be held on a pedestal. So IdrA is on one end of the spectrum while most of the pro community is on the other...he is the bad boy. In LoL everyone rages from time to time but some people are pissed off ragers, while other people who stream rage and make it entertaining for the viewers. The Odd One rages from time to time about how useless people are or makes fun of a certain build someone is doing, but he also brings entertainment (Lets do dis, EMPIRE, The team is learnin!). I think TRM gets viewers because 1. He is on TSM and they just won a major tournament. 2. People like that he is known to play a weird champion top lane (teemo). 3. He is skilled top lane. 4. He rages at his team and makes fun of people (which can be funny). 5. He provides insight on why he does certain things. I don't think rage automatically = more viewers, but having a personality, being unique, being funny and being skilled/on a top team makes it more likely that people will tune in. Edit: I also don't understand why it seems like you are on a crusade against TRM, just shut off his stream and watch someone else. Don't say "TRM has 10k viewers he doesn't deserve", just watch your favorite streamer. I figured the people that would be interested in watching LoL would not have the same interests as people watching Real World/Jersey Shore. Seems like two different demographics. How in the world did it seem like I am on a crusade against TRM? I dont care what he does or why he does it. I can't state my opinion on his douche bagginess? I seriously doubt I am the first person to ever say something about it. Also never said he didn't deserve his viewers, I did turn off his stream but I felt like commenting about it. Why are you on a crusade against my opinion? Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:54 Shiv. wrote:On December 09 2011 07:09 Bladeorade wrote:
The kind of person I would enjoy punching in the face tbh You really seem like a perfectly enjoyable person to be around, though. Haha thank you  Anyway this is kind of pointless people have differing opinions and that's cool
You don't care for him, yet want to punch him in the face. I mean, what? I get your point and I dislike his douchebaggery on stream too, but seriously, isn't that sort of a strong reaction towards something you voluntarily did?
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On December 09 2011 08:28 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Every character that gets bonus damage/on-hit effects scales off of attack speed.
So not including passives, that isn't Corki, Ez, Trist, Cait, Urgot, Ashe, Graves... am I missing any AD's other than kog?
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On December 09 2011 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless. I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead. You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^
honestly I dont really think there are any true hypercarries in LoL. I mean maybe riven, tryn, pre-gb nerf jax, and nasus with sufficient farm but in my mind, a hypercarry is a champ that, given enough farm, can almost literally 1v5 with minimal support.
in dota, hypercarries exist because attributes give defensive and offensive specs + there are heroes that can tank out, become basically invincible and thus rape the enemy team 'cause they can't kill 'em. there are hypercarries in dota partially because they have items like heart of tarrasque and bkb.
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On December 09 2011 09:10 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless. I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead. You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^ honestly I dont really think there are any true hypercarries in LoL. I mean maybe riven, tryn, pre-gb nerf jax, and nasus with sufficient farm but in my mind, a hypercarry is a champ that, given enough farm, can almost literally 1v5 with minimal support. in dota, hypercarries exist because attributes give defensive and offensive specs + there are heroes that can tank out, become basically invincible and thus rape the enemy team 'cause they can't kill 'em. there are hypercarries in dota partially because they have items like heart of tarrasque and bkb.
When i see any hero in dota 1v5 a non retarded team like someone can in DOTA then ill believe that hypercarries exist.
until then i dont see it
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I'd argue that once you're fully itemed out you lifesteal so much that you basically become defensive enough unless you get bursted 100-> 0. Like a Vayne PD, PD, IE, BT, BT GA is such a terror ^_^ It's definitely not like DotA, but I think there's a close parallel that can be drawn.
On December 09 2011 09:16 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:10 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 09 2011 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless. I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead. You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^ honestly I dont really think there are any true hypercarries in LoL. I mean maybe riven, tryn, pre-gb nerf jax, and nasus with sufficient farm but in my mind, a hypercarry is a champ that, given enough farm, can almost literally 1v5 with minimal support. in dota, hypercarries exist because attributes give defensive and offensive specs + there are heroes that can tank out, become basically invincible and thus rape the enemy team 'cause they can't kill 'em. there are hypercarries in dota partially because they have items like heart of tarrasque and bkb. When i see any hero in dota 1v5 a non retarded team like someone can in DOTA then ill believe that hypercarries exist. until then i dont see it
You've never seen a 60-70 minute game where a Kog'Maw pentakills the other team in 5 seconds?
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On December 09 2011 09:16 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:10 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 09 2011 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless. I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead. You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^ honestly I dont really think there are any true hypercarries in LoL. I mean maybe riven, tryn, pre-gb nerf jax, and nasus with sufficient farm but in my mind, a hypercarry is a champ that, given enough farm, can almost literally 1v5 with minimal support. in dota, hypercarries exist because attributes give defensive and offensive specs + there are heroes that can tank out, become basically invincible and thus rape the enemy team 'cause they can't kill 'em. there are hypercarries in dota partially because they have items like heart of tarrasque and bkb. When i see any hero in dota 1v5 a non retarded team like someone can in DOTA then ill believe that hypercarries exist. until then i dont see it
you've never seen karthus penta kill 1v5? o_O
you just flash in exhaust their ad carry and if you have will of the ancients it's fucking over for all of them. They can flash out and escape though, which is different from dota. But most of the time, you kill all of them if they stay to kill you, and you get get most of their team if they run like pansies.
Also in teamfights, karthus is instawin, if they focus him, they lose, if they don't, they lose.
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Most of the time people think of people becoming "hypercarries" I think, they're thinking of the games where someone gets ahead in farm and then that advantage just gets magnified by the characters inherent late game advantage. Once everyone is 6 items + pots into the game, anyone blows up in 2 secs, hypercarry or not. Right?
I'm just thinking of the one CLG game where they were sieging some team inside their base and spent like 15-25 minutes just sitting at the outskirts of their base. By the end of it the Kog'Maw on the other team was even selling his boots for more Phantom Dancers, and everyone was ridiculously max on items. The damage output on both sides was disgusting but someone from either team would have blown up nearly instantly under direct fire. 1v1's would be other issues, though.
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On December 09 2011 09:18 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:I'd argue that once you're fully itemed out you lifesteal so much that you basically become defensive enough unless you get bursted 100-> 0. Like a Vayne PD, PD, IE, BT, BT GA is such a terror ^_^ It's definitely not like DotA, but I think there's a close parallel that can be drawn. Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:16 arb wrote:On December 09 2011 09:10 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 09 2011 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 09 2011 08:53 phyvo wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 Doctorbeat wrote:On December 09 2011 08:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On December 09 2011 08:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Holy crap...Doublelift on vayne 14-0 in a game not much longer than 20 minutes........crushed Corki/Blitz with an Ehome AListar That's because vaynes kit is too good. Most champions only get scaling off of their AD damage (Corki), but vaynes W also means that all attack speed items also scale in the same way that AD items do. No other carry has anything like that. And her W is true damage, make it AD damage and that would bring her wayyyyyyyyyy down. It's the reason why you see him go something retarded like 2/8, and then end the game 13/8. No matter what he buys, vayne will always out damage another champion with the same items because vayne gets scaling from everything, while other champions don't. Dlift was talking on his stream about hypercarries a few days ago. He said that Vayne, Rumble and Karthus were the only true hypercarries left. I agree that Vayne is very very strong, and her snowball potential is huge. How the crap is Rumble a hyper carry? There are plenty of AP characters that do way more damage late-game who actually benefit from stuff like Blue Buff. Even the term itself is pretty silly when used in the context of any LoL champ. There have always been carries with better DPS lategame (Tristana/Kog compared to Ashe/Caitlyn) but calling them "hyper" is mostly meaningless. I feel like Kog'Maw and Vayne could be considered Hypercarries just because of their Ws. Fully itemed out they do such absurd damage that they can get to the point where they can 1v5 if they can kite long enough. Kog'Maw less so since he relies more on his team to keep him alive, but he has the raw damage output and even if you can 1v5; if you do something stupid you'll find yourself dead. You might just call these champions hyper carries because they're the best scaling in their respective roles. I'd toss Riven or Tryndymere in there instead of Rumble (no idea why he was mentioned in the first place), but they're the closest thing league had to such things. It really depends on your definition of a hyper carry. If you think of them in the dota sense they're definitely not ^_^ honestly I dont really think there are any true hypercarries in LoL. I mean maybe riven, tryn, pre-gb nerf jax, and nasus with sufficient farm but in my mind, a hypercarry is a champ that, given enough farm, can almost literally 1v5 with minimal support. in dota, hypercarries exist because attributes give defensive and offensive specs + there are heroes that can tank out, become basically invincible and thus rape the enemy team 'cause they can't kill 'em. there are hypercarries in dota partially because they have items like heart of tarrasque and bkb. When i see any hero in dota 1v5 a non retarded team like someone can in DOTA then ill believe that hypercarries exist. until then i dont see it You've never seen a 60-70 minute game where a Kog'Maw pentakills the other team in 5 seconds?
no
ive seen karthus do 5 kills with his ult after his teams damaged them before though
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On December 09 2011 09:05 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:59 Bladeorade wrote:On December 09 2011 08:34 Demonace34 wrote:On December 09 2011 07:29 Bladeorade wrote:On December 09 2011 07:23 Vaporized wrote:
whats everyones thoughts on yorick these days. i just bought him recently cuz i wanted to play a bruiser champ (i mainly play ryze, zilean, or tristana). ive played 5 or so games so far and gotten better each time.
i run 9/21/0 and armor yellows, mres blue, arpen reds and quints.
for items i go manamune +merc treads for early game goals, into triforce + glacial shroud, and finish with warmogs + atmas late game. i just started experimenting with triforce this morning when i played and it felt a lot better then rushing a warmogs or something.
my first games i was getting spirit visage +glacial shroud in the mid game into warmogs but im not really feeling SV much. i didnt do enough damage with SV.
i read yorick was strong early game with a somewhat weaker late game, but as he stands now it feels opposite. i can sustain and farm fairly well early game, but late game with triforce, warmogs, and atmas i was just wrecking people. team fights are a blast too late game, i ult myself because i have 330ad and we just rolled over the other team. Yorick is strong in lane. Always harass, never die. E and W all day. Start harass at level 1. His damage does fall off late but if you Ult your AD carry its OP. Vayne/Yorick/Zilean too strong On December 09 2011 07:26 Demonace34 wrote:On December 09 2011 07:22 Bladeorade wrote:
TRM 13K viewers making a complete ass of himself and not even looking like a good player
Double lift 4K Well most people want to see drama and raging, so that is why you see the number difference. People don't just watch IdrA because he is the best Zerg in the world do they? Stop complaining about who is getting viewers and just watch your favorite streamer, anti-fans are no fun. Most people want to see drama and raging? There goes my perspective on Teenage to Early 20s males. Personally that sort of bull shit is a huge turn off. Idra is nothing like any of the ragers I have seen in LoL. LoL rage is just all caps full retard mode, and at the professional level you would never see that in SC2. I don't get why that would attract viewers but if you say people want to watch it and people are watching it then it must. Mind boggling. Why do people watch Real World or Jersey Shore, the entertainment comes from watching drama unfold and play out. Why do newspapers and channel 5 have a ton of death and destruction on the front page/screen? If it bleeds it leads, people like that type of stuff. The difference in my comparison of IdrA is that everyone is basically well mannered in SC2 and treats gg as something to be held on a pedestal. So IdrA is on one end of the spectrum while most of the pro community is on the other...he is the bad boy. In LoL everyone rages from time to time but some people are pissed off ragers, while other people who stream rage and make it entertaining for the viewers. The Odd One rages from time to time about how useless people are or makes fun of a certain build someone is doing, but he also brings entertainment (Lets do dis, EMPIRE, The team is learnin!). I think TRM gets viewers because 1. He is on TSM and they just won a major tournament. 2. People like that he is known to play a weird champion top lane (teemo). 3. He is skilled top lane. 4. He rages at his team and makes fun of people (which can be funny). 5. He provides insight on why he does certain things. I don't think rage automatically = more viewers, but having a personality, being unique, being funny and being skilled/on a top team makes it more likely that people will tune in. Edit: I also don't understand why it seems like you are on a crusade against TRM, just shut off his stream and watch someone else. Don't say "TRM has 10k viewers he doesn't deserve", just watch your favorite streamer. I figured the people that would be interested in watching LoL would not have the same interests as people watching Real World/Jersey Shore. Seems like two different demographics. How in the world did it seem like I am on a crusade against TRM? I dont care what he does or why he does it. I can't state my opinion on his douche bagginess? I seriously doubt I am the first person to ever say something about it. Also never said he didn't deserve his viewers, I did turn off his stream but I felt like commenting about it. Why are you on a crusade against my opinion? On December 09 2011 08:54 Shiv. wrote:On December 09 2011 07:09 Bladeorade wrote:
The kind of person I would enjoy punching in the face tbh You really seem like a perfectly enjoyable person to be around, though. Haha thank you Anyway this is kind of pointless people have differing opinions and that's cool You don't care for him, yet want to punch him in the face. I mean, what? I get your point and I dislike his douchebaggery on stream too, but seriously, isn't that sort of a strong reaction towards something you voluntarily did?
Slight exaggeration...and in my defense I said "the kind of person I would enjoy punching in the face." Not that I wanted to or even would. But if it came to it, I would enjoy it.
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I don't think you can 1v5 when everyone has max items, but if you have a late game character who's ahead by an item or two it's very possible. I know I literally went 1v5 with prenerf Irelia when my entire team got caught in the jungle 4v5 and I defended the nexus 1v5. when everyone is capped though I don't think there's any characters that can do it, so depending on your definition of hypercarry it's either no one or quite a few heroes. I'm pretty sure we've all seen Morde 1v5 at some point, for example.
re: the Rain Man
I don't like when people rage, but some people's rage bothers me more than others. it doesn't bother me that much when rainman rages, maybe because he's wearing a trash bag.
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Here's something to think about. Doublelift, on his stream, says there are three hypercarries in LoL. Vayne, Karthus, and Rumble.
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Doh, I didn't read the earlier posts. My bad.
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Originally Posted by Iniquitee
Hello Summoners! Thanks for joining us on the PBE. Please help us out by trying out the newly enabled "Drop-In Spectating" mode.
To use:
Add friends to your buddy list! I suggest hanging out in Public Chat 1.
Wait for them to start a game (any time after champion select has begun) - Normal, Ranked or Custom.
Right-click their name on your buddy list and choose the "Spectate game" option.
Enjoy!
Please let us know what you think and any bugs you find (though we know of some already and are working on polishing up the feature)!
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On December 09 2011 09:37 dookudooku wrote:
Here's something to think about. Doublelift, on his stream, says there are three hypercarries in LoL. Vayne, Karthus, and Rumble.
lol that's what sparked the discussion about hypercarries
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So can someone explain to me how Rumble is seen as a hypercarry by Doublelift? I really don't see that.
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Before AP is taken into account Rumble's ult alone will deal 1200 damage to an enemy who stays in it for full duration. Not to mention Rumble is pretty hard to kill since most builds give him lots of spellvamp plus some tankiness (Abyssal, Zhonya's, Rylai's are all viable on him and he has a shield).
I don't think he's a "hyper carry" in the sense that Karthus, Vayne, or Kog'maw could literally kill everyone on the enemy team but I think that a fed Rumble can 1v1 and even 1v2 a lot of champions in the game. If he places his ult properly and he has support from his team I think that Rumble might still be OP.
But yeah, he's definitely not a hyper carry.
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On December 09 2011 09:39 NotSorry wrote:
Originally Posted by Iniquitee
Hello Summoners! Thanks for joining us on the PBE. Please help us out by trying out the newly enabled "Drop-In Spectating" mode.
To use:
Add friends to your buddy list! I suggest hanging out in Public Chat 1.
Wait for them to start a game (any time after champion select has begun) - Normal, Ranked or Custom.
Right-click their name on your buddy list and choose the "Spectate game" option.
Enjoy!
Please let us know what you think and any bugs you find (though we know of some already and are working on polishing up the feature)!
Consider my socks rocked.
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On December 09 2011 09:41 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:37 dookudooku wrote:
Here's something to think about. Doublelift, on his stream, says there are three hypercarries in LoL. Vayne, Karthus, and Rumble. lol that's what sparked the discussion about hypercarries
Vayne being OP and doublelift saying they need to nerf her because she's just as powerful as the old 4 hyper carries which riot nerfed.
On December 09 2011 09:43 zodde wrote:
So can someone explain to me how Rumble is seen as a hypercarry by Doublelift? I really don't see that.
Super short cd's which you spam, no resource pool to deplete (essentially he's like a hyper carry who just autos and right clicks etc. you don't do anything else).
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On December 09 2011 09:45 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:39 NotSorry wrote:
Originally Posted by Iniquitee
Hello Summoners! Thanks for joining us on the PBE. Please help us out by trying out the newly enabled "Drop-In Spectating" mode.
To use:
Add friends to your buddy list! I suggest hanging out in Public Chat 1.
Wait for them to start a game (any time after champion select has begun) - Normal, Ranked or Custom.
Right-click their name on your buddy list and choose the "Spectate game" option.
Enjoy!
Please let us know what you think and any bugs you find (though we know of some already and are working on polishing up the feature)! Consider my socks rocked.
So is this only when they are on your friends list? Or are they going to implement is where you can just go to The Odd Ones profile and click watch game?
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On December 09 2011 10:00 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 09:45 Seuss wrote:On December 09 2011 09:39 NotSorry wrote:
Originally Posted by Iniquitee
Hello Summoners! Thanks for joining us on the PBE. Please help us out by trying out the newly enabled "Drop-In Spectating" mode.
To use:
Add friends to your buddy list! I suggest hanging out in Public Chat 1.
Wait for them to start a game (any time after champion select has begun) - Normal, Ranked or Custom.
Right-click their name on your buddy list and choose the "Spectate game" option.
Enjoy!
Please let us know what you think and any bugs you find (though we know of some already and are working on polishing up the feature)! Consider my socks rocked. So is this only when they are on your friends list? Or are they going to implement is where you can just go to The Odd Ones profile and click watch game?
DAMN that'd be so fucking great... but idk if its going to be too heavy a load
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