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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 23:42:16
December 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#2241
Has anybody figured out what's up with the normal draft pick order? I get last literally 100% of the time I queue up solo, but if I bring friends it's shuffled around.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 04 2011 23:53 GMT
#2242
On December 05 2011 08:41 Node wrote:
Has anybody figured out what's up with the normal draft pick order? I get last literally 100% of the time I queue up solo, but if I bring friends it's shuffled around.


Groups that queue are always first, then other positions are randomized I believe. It's not correlated to anything as far as I know.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 05 2011 00:02 GMT
#2243
On December 05 2011 08:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:23 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Riven beats Tryn as well. Shut him down at level 3, keep him from farming, get your jungler to gank him when he tries to push back.

But I mean, if you're in solo Q ranked good luck.

Loci told me that Trynda was good VS Riven, who to believe now ? :o

Iunno...once Tryn gets wriggles he can pretty much shrug off and sustain through any harass....
SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
December 05 2011 00:12 GMT
#2244
On December 05 2011 09:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:23 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Riven beats Tryn as well. Shut him down at level 3, keep him from farming, get your jungler to gank him when he tries to push back.

But I mean, if you're in solo Q ranked good luck.

Loci told me that Trynda was good VS Riven, who to believe now ? :o

Iunno...once Tryn gets wriggles he can pretty much shrug off and sustain through any harass....


In my experience Riven will win levels 1-3, but if you don't get a kill by the time he hits 4 or 5 you'll never be able to push him out of lane.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:20:37
December 05 2011 00:18 GMT
#2245
Does anyone have specifics on the jungle re-vamp that went live? The red post is kind of vague.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 05 2011 00:21 GMT
#2246
On December 05 2011 09:18 BloodNinja wrote:
Does anyone have specifics on the jungle re-vamp that went live? The red post is kind of vague.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1558036

basically, they didn't do much at all. they adjusted the numbers a bit, probably in the range of like 1-5 gold and 30-ish exp.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:24:48
December 05 2011 00:24 GMT
#2247
Just had I game where I'm akali against ww in toplane. With the minion nerf he was able to sit in the middle of my creep wave and auto me *from level one, sustaining through both my damage and the minion damage. I was zoned out and at low health the whole time, had to use a pot almost every time I went for a last hit. What the hell would you do in this situation?
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
December 05 2011 00:30 GMT
#2248
Call for an early jungle gank. You need some way to get ahead in a matchup like that so you don't get put in a situation like that in the first place.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#2249
On December 05 2011 09:24 Treadmill wrote:
Just had I game where I'm akali against ww in toplane. With the minion nerf he was able to sit in the middle of my creep wave and auto me *from level one, sustaining through both my damage and the minion damage. I was zoned out and at low health the whole time, had to use a pot almost every time I went for a last hit. What the hell would you do in this situation?


What can you do? Spam pots, last hit with q, use shroud religiously, and ask for jungle ganks or a lane switch. Obviously attempting to trade hits at a disadvantage is just compounding your issue.
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bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
December 05 2011 00:35 GMT
#2250
anyone else find it funny that regi duos with saint and jiji duos with oddone
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:42:16
December 05 2011 00:35 GMT
#2251
On December 05 2011 09:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 09:18 BloodNinja wrote:
Does anyone have specifics on the jungle re-vamp that went live? The red post is kind of vague.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1558036

basically, they didn't do much at all. they adjusted the numbers a bit, probably in the range of like 1-5 gold and 30-ish exp.


Yeah I saw that thread and its pretty vague. I was wondering if anyone had hard numbers down yet and they compared to the previous numbers.

I.E. one clear in "Pre-revamp jungle" provided 300 gold and level 3 / Newly re-vamped jungle now provides 350 gold and level 3.5. These numbers are completely bogus but it sorta the info I am looking for.

Edit - It appears they didnt up the gold numbers at all but the xp is a bit higher.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 05 2011 00:52 GMT
#2252
On December 05 2011 09:35 bosiddon wrote:
anyone else find it funny that regi duos with saint and jiji duos with oddone


Practicing for WCG, each of those pairs is on separate teams. Jiji/Oddone for Canada and Saint/Regi for CDE/US.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 01:04:15
December 05 2011 01:02 GMT
#2253
On December 05 2011 08:41 Node wrote:
Has anybody figured out what's up with the normal draft pick order? I get last literally 100% of the time I queue up solo, but if I bring friends it's shuffled around.

Math.random();

You're just biased in what you see with solo queue normals. I guarantee you are not last 100% of the time.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 05 2011 01:04 GMT
#2254
On December 05 2011 09:52 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 09:35 bosiddon wrote:
anyone else find it funny that regi duos with saint and jiji duos with oddone


Practicing for WCG, each of those pairs is on separate teams. Jiji/Oddone for Canada and Saint/Regi for CDE/US.

bosiddon shut down
:)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 05 2011 01:45 GMT
#2255
So do we have any recommended games list for the IEM Kiev Qualifiers? I'm gonna watch all the Dignitas games regardless although apparently a bunch of them were good Can't remember anything else though because I was too excited about Dignitas winning ^_^
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
December 05 2011 02:31 GMT
#2256
On December 05 2011 09:52 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 09:35 bosiddon wrote:
anyone else find it funny that regi duos with saint and jiji duos with oddone


Practicing for WCG, each of those pairs is on separate teams. Jiji/Oddone for Canada and Saint/Regi for CDE/US.


Regi/Saint also has the benefit of being the single most aggressive pairing of players in competitive LoL. Saint is so aggressive that he gets Regi to balk at following him in, lol.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#2257
On December 05 2011 10:02 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:41 Node wrote:
Has anybody figured out what's up with the normal draft pick order? I get last literally 100% of the time I queue up solo, but if I bring friends it's shuffled around.

Math.random();

You're just biased in what you see with solo queue normals. I guarantee you are not last 100% of the time.

Eh, he'll still be disproportionally last if partial groups are more common than solo queues in normal draft, which I am assuming is the case.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#2258
That would have the opposite effect. The people queueing would be placed with higher ranked people, but would still be lower elo, making one or more of them the bottom picks.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#2259
On December 05 2011 11:37 Craton wrote:
That would have the opposite effect. The people queueing would be placed with higher ranked people, but would still be lower elo, making one or more of them the bottom picks.

But we've already established that rank doesn't affect queue priority in Normal Draft. The whole group goes first.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 05 2011 03:04 GMT
#2260
That would explain while I'm never first or second, and varely ever third.
Off topic, just had a very satisfying game with a bad Morgana (who asked Talon solotop against Lux/Zil to lane switch at level 1 because he was bullied by Cait and gave up first blood soon after), extremely aggressive even when behind, and bad matchups (aggressive Talon 1v2, Sona went to help him but then Ashe was solo against Sion/Malphite). I managed to feed myself (8-1) with tons of ganks, and Ashe holding his own quite well every time they threatened to dive, till I came to protect him.
We lost mid and bot, but we started grouping up and our burst power + mobility thanks to Sona and my Shurelya allowed us to be everywhere. Moreover, despite their weaknesses Morgana and Talon sticked to the group and listened to every call that was made. Morg often forced us to jump in (I had shurelya/ghost/twisted advance but he'd still try to engage 1v3 from time to time) and waste Ashe's/Sona's ult they'd cast at the same time, but teamwork still prevailed in the end. Having a team work as a group, and w/o being a 5-man premade felt really good for communication and all the "make a comeback" stuff.

(Talon/Maokai/Morgana/Ashe/Sona is retarded engage and burst tho, they had a Zilean really good on ults, always saving our target even tho their Cait was often too retarded not to be too much in front to dodge me).
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