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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 22:32:56
November 22 2011 22:31 GMT
#1781
On November 23 2011 07:29 RogerX wrote:
Is that bear serious? Won't that be the first champ that'll stand on its fours? Lol


Nidalee in cougar form? That's all I got.

Edit: Urgot!
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 22 2011 22:32 GMT
#1782
Irelia is a farmfest with Nasus, she doesn't counter him (and he's more dangerous once farmed).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 22 2011 22:38 GMT
#1783
On November 23 2011 07:31 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:29 RogerX wrote:
Is that bear serious? Won't that be the first champ that'll stand on its fours? Lol


Nidalee in cougar form? That's all I got.

Edit: Urgot!

Shyvana in Dragon form, at least while walking.
Skarner has more than 4 legs I guess?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#1784
interesting garen bug
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
November 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#1785
On November 23 2011 07:10 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 06:43 BlackMagister wrote:
On November 23 2011 05:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
For arranged 5s wouldn't it be better if you could see what team you're playing in the pick/ban phase? It would be more competitive that way imo

I would imagine teams might dodge the proteams then.

Why would you dodge them if you get a leave, loss and time penalty?


Since it's your team elo, you cant just have 1 person take the hit, your whole team would lose elo.

This is something that should probably be added.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 22:59:59
November 22 2011 22:56 GMT
#1786
On November 23 2011 07:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 06:01 epoc wrote:
Nasus op. Pick one of the 1 or 2 counters or lose the game.

Which one is it among Ryze, Karthus, Cassio, Orianna, Swayne, GP, Udyr, Singed, Irelia, Sion, Nidalee, Malphite, Malz, Ezreal, Annie, Brand, Garen, Jarvan, Catilyn, Akali ?


Nasus counters Irelia and Singed, because they can't kill him or harass him enough to prevent free farming, and by definition free farming Nasus against a non-hyper carry = won lane. Garen and Jarvan also aren't bad if you open armor runes + cloth5 and just farm under your turret.

Annie doesn't counter if Nasus has TP and opens philo+merc threads+spirit visage. She has long attack range but Nasus will just regen/lifesteal the damage and spam heal pots. Annie top lane is also ridiculously easy to gank, especially with Wither, and it also means she can't roam well. I'm not sure what happens if Annie gets blue though.

In general Nasus vs AP toplane comes down to Nasus spamming health pots until they run oom. Once Nasus has some farm and MR he can start trading hits and will win against AP without sustain. Some do give him a really hard time though, like Orianna and Cassio, because they can free harass even with lane pushed to turret.

If you send someone like Caitlyn top, Nasus will level spitfire first. His Q won't be as high, but he'll have solid farm and probably a better lategame comp then you if you ran double AD (or he can switch to bot lane if you put a bruiser bot).

There are certainly rough matchups but countering Nasus is a lot more difficult than it appears. Even if you out-cs Nasus early he can still be a monster late game with some CDR, because he WILL get his farm once you start pushing turret. You need someone who can completely crush him and then snowball an early win because of it, or a hypercarry with a better early game and equally strong late game (e.g. Riven or Trynd are good choices)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#1787
On November 23 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:10 spinesheath wrote:
On November 23 2011 06:43 BlackMagister wrote:
On November 23 2011 05:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
For arranged 5s wouldn't it be better if you could see what team you're playing in the pick/ban phase? It would be more competitive that way imo

I would imagine teams might dodge the proteams then.

Why would you dodge them if you get a leave, loss and time penalty?


Since it's your team elo, you cant just have 1 person take the hit, your whole team would lose elo.

This is something that should probably be added.

Sorry, but I don't see what you are saying...
I sure hope that there is a team wide penalty for dodging in place RIGHT NOW. Everything else would make no sense.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 23:02:10
November 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#1788
On November 23 2011 07:29 RogerX wrote:
Is that bear serious? Won't that be the first champ that'll stand on its fours? Lol

Nidalee, Urgot, uhmmmmm, i'll think of more.

edit: skarner, rammus(ball counts as on all 4? not really i suppose)
liftlift > tsm
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#1789
On November 23 2011 08:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:29 RogerX wrote:
Is that bear serious? Won't that be the first champ that'll stand on its fours? Lol

Nidalee, Urgot, uhmmmmm, i'll think of more.

edit: skarner, rammus(ball counts as on all 4? not really i suppose)


Skarner has 6

rammus, wukong, trundle when running or in a certain stance
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 23:06:36
November 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#1790
Trundle only uses one hand to run.

On November 23 2011 07:47 Frolossus wrote:
interesting garen bug

That explains a lot.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#1791
Some asshole took team name Aqua Teen Hunger Force already =(
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DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 22 2011 23:14 GMT
#1792
On November 23 2011 08:05 Craton wrote:
Trundle only uses one hand to run.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:47 Frolossus wrote:
interesting garen bug

That explains a lot.


my bad, wukong probably too... cant run on all four with a bat or staff or whatever in your hand
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 23:23:02
November 22 2011 23:20 GMT
#1793
Is it just me or is e max lane Olaf stupid strong. E starts as 100 true dmg at lvl1 and scales up to 340 at lvl 5 has no mana cost so Olaf can literally spam it all day unlike q max lane Olaf. I honestly have no idea how to play against an e max lane Olaf. Ive lost to it as garen and renekton cause cloth5 isn't sufficient to mitigate the retarded amount of true damage being spammed and it feels like Olaf outbursts both of them pretty hard esp. if olaf opens with armor runes and cloth5
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#1794
Or you could just counter nasus by getting champs that can instagib the rest of his team so that his actual period of effectiveness is 0.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 23:34:19
November 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#1795
-.- TSM is pubstomping so hard team ranked... 11:50 ace

18 min game.. no time to surrender at 20
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
November 22 2011 23:32 GMT
#1796
Wait, Annie doesn't counter Nasus because it's ridiculously easy to gank top lane? Even with tri-bush and river by baron warded? Unless you're talking a pre-first-back gank, in which case if it's really that critical Annie can probably open boots/pot/ward, and she also has flash for the first gank.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 22 2011 23:37 GMT
#1797
On November 23 2011 08:27 CeriseCherries wrote:
-.- TSM is pubstomping so hard team ranked... 11:50 ace

18 min game.. no time to surrender at 20


you missed the game where they won in 14 minutes

the other team didn't get past level 7
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#1798
On November 23 2011 07:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 06:01 epoc wrote:
Nasus op. Pick one of the 1 or 2 counters or lose the game.

Which one is it among Ryze, Karthus, Cassio, Orianna, Swayne, GP, Udyr, Singed, Irelia, Sion, Nidalee, Malphite, Malz, Ezreal, Annie, Brand, Garen, Jarvan, Catilyn, Akali ?


Most of those don't stop nasus farming.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 22 2011 23:44 GMT
#1799
On November 23 2011 08:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 08:27 CeriseCherries wrote:
-.- TSM is pubstomping so hard team ranked... 11:50 ace

18 min game.. no time to surrender at 20


you missed the game where they won in 14 minutes

the other team didn't get past level 7


One of the games, Chaox rushed SotO on graves and got a penta like 12 minutes into the game.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
November 22 2011 23:47 GMT
#1800
On November 23 2011 07:58 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
On November 23 2011 07:10 spinesheath wrote:
On November 23 2011 06:43 BlackMagister wrote:
On November 23 2011 05:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
For arranged 5s wouldn't it be better if you could see what team you're playing in the pick/ban phase? It would be more competitive that way imo

I would imagine teams might dodge the proteams then.

Why would you dodge them if you get a leave, loss and time penalty?


Since it's your team elo, you cant just have 1 person take the hit, your whole team would lose elo.

This is something that should probably be added.

Sorry, but I don't see what you are saying...
I sure hope that there is a team wide penalty for dodging in place RIGHT NOW. Everything else would make no sense.


I'm saying they should implement the fact you can see the other team during the ban/pick phase, it would make a lot more sense for bans etc.

And I assume there is a team dodge penalty, was trying to say it's not like normal que where I could have my duo partner dodge to avoid playing a "good player" if I knew who i was playing... having a team elo/team penalty pretty much takes this out of the game.
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