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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 21 2011 10:00 GMT
#1401
Actually hmm, if we're going peak then I'd probably really just do like GJ top Jiji mid Ballz jungle and Scarlet/PGB bot. I don't remember if the ran with GJ (I think they were two separate teams IIRC) but that bot lane Soraka/Karth and such was a goddamn wrecking crew.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 21 2011 10:04 GMT
#1402
Seriously you guys are making a teamcomp and nobody's got Locicero on mid?

Let's think about this long and hard, guys...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#1403
I respect Loci but Jiji and GJ on solos was an absolute nightmare back in the day. It's obviously hard to compare across different times (evolving game/improving players/etc.) but at peak they definitely felt like a bigger terror.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 21 2011 10:27 GMT
#1404
On November 21 2011 19:06 Southlight wrote:
I respect Loci but Jiji and GJ on solos was an absolute nightmare back in the day. It's obviously hard to compare across different times (evolving game/improving players/etc.) but at peak they definitely felt like a bigger terror.

They abused OP champions when there weren't enough bans for them. Big difference.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
November 21 2011 10:37 GMT
#1405
pardon my ignorance but who the fuck is GJ? -_-
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 21 2011 10:43 GMT
#1406
Grandjudge
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
November 21 2011 10:50 GMT
#1407
oh ok thx, he doesnt play anymore? :o
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
November 21 2011 11:06 GMT
#1408
On November 21 2011 19:50 YunhOLee wrote:
oh ok thx, he doesnt play anymore? :o

he plays but his not half the man he used to be
i wish riot would give me better ping
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
November 21 2011 11:07 GMT
#1409
On November 21 2011 19:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Seriously you guys are making a teamcomp and nobody's got Locicero on mid?

Let's think about this long and hard, guys...

loci was mentioned a few times, plus he's reluctant to join a pro team and he needs to branch out his champion selection more

Right now he fits more of a solo top role since his tourny caliber champs are panth, ryze, nasus, and morg
twitch.tv/cratonz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#1410
On November 21 2011 20:07 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 19:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Seriously you guys are making a teamcomp and nobody's got Locicero on mid?

Let's think about this long and hard, guys...

loci was mentioned a few times, plus he's reluctant to join a pro team and he needs to branch out his champion selection more

Right now he fits more of a solo top role since his tourny caliber champs are panth, ryze, nasus, and morg

You can run 3 of those mid and pant kinda blows top.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
November 21 2011 11:10 GMT
#1411
vman 1800 viewers

what. the. fuck.
twitch.tv/cratonz
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
November 21 2011 12:14 GMT
#1412
You guys really believe these people are slumping or got worse and it's not that others got better and surpassed them?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 12:36:12
November 21 2011 12:32 GMT
#1413
On November 21 2011 21:14 rob.au wrote:
You guys really believe these people are slumping or got worse and it's not that others got better and surpassed them?

In the case of Lilballz, I know he stopped playing entirely for a long period of time. I remember queueing up against him in normals to find out that he'd sold his account and the new owner chain lost down to 1400 Elo. So yes, it's pretty much guaranteed that he's playing worse after taking a break from the game (though he's playing again now on the Taiwanese server). IIRC the same is true of GJ and Scarlet--took a break from the game for a very long period of time. Naturally when they come back they're much worse than they were before. Not sure about Laoching and Saber, though I do know Laoching is still playing.

FTW (Lilballz's new team in Taiwan) is going to be at WCG, I think, so we'll see how good he is now compared to how he was.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
November 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#1414
On November 21 2011 21:14 rob.au wrote:
You guys really believe these people are slumping or got worse and it's not that others got better and surpassed them?

making tangible mistakes is pretty much the definition of slumping
twitch.tv/cratonz
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
November 21 2011 12:48 GMT
#1415
I think the best lineup possible ever is:

Top: HotshotGG
Mid: Reginald
Jungle: Saintvicious
AD: Chaox
Support: Nyph
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 21 2011 13:01 GMT
#1416
On November 21 2011 19:27 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 19:06 Southlight wrote:
I respect Loci but Jiji and GJ on solos was an absolute nightmare back in the day. It's obviously hard to compare across different times (evolving game/improving players/etc.) but at peak they definitely felt like a bigger terror.

They abused OP champions when there weren't enough bans for them. Big difference.


That's what literally every player in soloQ does, play the best champs available. Up until very recently there were only 4 bans so I'm not sure where you wanted to go with this. Loci is known most for his Morg, not exactly a weak pick(not saying he can't play others, obviously not true, but it's not true of the people you're apparently criticizing either).

There have been very few people who climbed soloQ and stayed high playing a niche champ, Chu8 probably the only really memorable one.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 13:16:44
November 21 2011 13:15 GMT
#1417
Now that MLG is over you guys might be interested in what has happend over on the EU server this weekend as the final qualifier for IEM Kiev took place on Saturday. The grid can be found here: http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/masters/global_challenge_kiev_final/rankings/

The biggest upset: SK and fnatic both did not manage to qualify!
While SK lost in the very last series against Team Empire from Russia, fnatic screwed up in the first two pre-qualifiers and wasn't even eligible to play on Saturday.

The three qualified teams:

mTw.Absolute Legends
Wickd - Bruiser
Lyumi - AD
Froggen - AP
Wewillfailer - Support
Kebap - Jungle

Their Danish players Wickd and Froggen dominated their lanes respectively throughout the tournament. Lyumi played a beastly AD although people might remember him from being a very dominant bruiser for Team Germany. Add in one of Europe's best Supports and Jungles and you got yourself one powerhouse of a team.

aAa
sOAZ - Bruiser
YellOwStaR - AD
Alth0r - AP
Osaft22 - Support
Linak - Jungle

This team has three French players on their best positions: YellOwStaR, Linak and sOAZ played together for aAa and Millenium before and always had great success. The team gets complemented by Ex-SK/Sypher AP Alth0r and veteran Osaft22 who played for SK's WCG team back in 2010.


Empire
AlexIch - AP
Darien - Bruiser
Genja - AD
DiamondProx - Jungle
GoSu Pepper - Support

They played rather unorthodox lineups with great success. AP Malphite and Wukong top, Support Nunu bottom, Urgot and Miss Fortune bottom. They are an all-Russian team that decided to play on EU West to get in more and better practice. As it turns out it was well worth it. The fans in Kiev will love to cheer for a Russian team, that's for sure.


A little reminder:
The second US pre-qualifier for Kiev will happen this Saturday. Sign up here: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/5on5/global_challenge_kiev2/signup/

So far qualified for the US-final:
1. Team SoloMid
2. v8 eSports
3. CLG
4. Goose

So hopefully we will see Dignitas, Epik etc. this weekend.
@ESL_Shawn
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 21 2011 13:54 GMT
#1418
Line-Ups time !

I'd say the dream team would be :
Top : Wickd. Close with HSGG and TRM I'd say.
Mid : Shusei. Just the best.
Jungle : Linak. He's been under the radar lately, but definitly is beastly.
AD : Chaox. Kinda no-brainer.
Support : Nyph. Same as Chaox. I want to see them lane together.
The legend of Darien lives on
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 21 2011 13:55 GMT
#1419
Chaox AD <3 quite bawss
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 21 2011 14:10 GMT
#1420
i'd pick tsm lineup for dream team xD but only if regi isn't playin leblanc^^
(>°_°)>
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