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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:53:35
November 21 2011 03:53 GMT
#1361
When I have to support I just accept the fact that the result will be more random than solo queue normally is. If you're godly at blitzcrank or know what matchups you can win playing lux then they can work but imo it's not really worth it.

I just pick a babysitter if we have a better team comp and let the match play its course if I feel I need to be influencial I'll pick Janna and try coach the AD into just afk farming. In solo q you generally don't face people good enough to abuse Janna in lane and you end up with a better support later so its a good risk/reward pick for me.

Having said that I wish they would remake/add more interesting supports, Janna and Ali are the only fun ones to play for me that don't suck. Like most of the AP carries have more interesting utility spells than the supports.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 04:20:07
November 21 2011 04:15 GMT
#1362
I'd take Hotshot, Salce, Saint, Mellisan, Chaox

Thats assuming Hotshot and Saint don't start arguing 24/7. But since that shit ain't possible, I guess I'll take Voyboy.
God Bless
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 21 2011 04:17 GMT
#1363
On November 21 2011 13:15 Roffles wrote:
I'd take Hotshot, Salce, Saint, Mellisan, Chaox

Thats assuming Hotshot and Saint don't start arguing 24/7.
are you living in some kind of fantasy world with magical elves and pixies?
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
November 21 2011 04:27 GMT
#1364
Top - Wickd/Westrice
Mid - Shushei
Jungle - The Odd One
Bot - Nhat + Chaox
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 21 2011 04:42 GMT
#1365
top - gingerbrown

mid - the cpt america

jungler - TeddyRO

AD - xxphaxen

support - scyx17
Brees on in
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
November 21 2011 04:44 GMT
#1366
I'd want pookieboo, becca, and bigfatmissy.
;)))))))))
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 21 2011 04:49 GMT
#1367
On November 21 2011 13:42 Brees wrote:
top - gingerbrown

mid - the cpt america

jungler - TeddyRO

AD - xxphaxen

support - scyx17

You may have hit on perfection. So many trolls, they actually form an immunity to trolling eachother and instead only troll other teams by winning.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 04:55:34
November 21 2011 04:54 GMT
#1368
I would take saint regi and hsgg. I can't really nail down who I'd want for ad and support I've never seen anyone that yells skill to me for those spots.

I've always thought that regi was better then shusei. Idk why I just have always felt that.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 21 2011 04:55 GMT
#1369
Bot: L0cust+qtpie
Jungle: Odd one
Mid: LoCicero
Top: Wickd
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
November 21 2011 04:59 GMT
#1370
Westrice,Salce,oddone,chaox+xpecial
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 05:06:24
November 21 2011 05:03 GMT
#1371
On November 21 2011 12:31 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:05 Ryuu314 wrote:
You can end up as the bottom spot because of many reasons. Maybe you went on tilt a couple days ago and dropped 100+ elo from playing bad. Maybe you decided to que dodge down for kicks. Maybe you come from a solid DotA background with good mechanics and are grinding up. For whatever reason, if you know you're better than your lane mate, it's up to you to win the lane. Do you honestly think that the top players on the ladder got through the 1200-1300 elo bracket by saying "oh. w/e i'm last pick so I'll play support, never take cs, and just watch my lane partner miss over 50% of the farm." I highly doubt that.

Note the relationship between someone who tilts enough to lose 100 Elo and someone who purposefully picks to spite their team. You have zero ability to know that you aren't legitimately the worst player on your team when you're making that pick to screw your own team.

The choice is to pick an offensive support, not to make your AD carry useless.

I don't really agree. Keep in mind that I'm talking about elo brackets lower than where you usually are. Bad luck happens and giant losing swings occur ever so often to everyone. Maybe it's different for you, but I know that I have dropped 100+ points below my average elo range due to combination of bad luck and letting my nub bro play on my account. For me, I sit around 1500-1600 elo range. Whenever I drop into the 1400s (or lower), I can play pretty much anything and win 90% of my games. Case in point: I dropped to 1400 flat last month 'cause of the shittiest luck (I got the same troll 5 games in a row even after taking a break, no joke). Once I hit 1420-ish I played Pantheon every game regardless of where my team sent me. I crushed basically every single game. At certain levels, it's possible to tell with a very high chance of success whether or not you're legitimately the best player on the team.

Besides, my original point wasn't whether or not you should steal farm from your carry. It was that below a certain elo range, in my experience, it's the 1400s, people simply don't fucking cs. Like you will run into people who get sub 50 cs in 15 minutes all the time. At those levels, there is absolutely no benefit in taking a support/babysitter champ over another carry or someone who can use farm.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
November 21 2011 05:11 GMT
#1372
Dota 2 just as bad as league of legends, huehue. Always bot lane.
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
November 21 2011 05:16 GMT
#1373
On November 21 2011 14:03 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:31 Craton wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:05 Ryuu314 wrote:
You can end up as the bottom spot because of many reasons. Maybe you went on tilt a couple days ago and dropped 100+ elo from playing bad. Maybe you decided to que dodge down for kicks. Maybe you come from a solid DotA background with good mechanics and are grinding up. For whatever reason, if you know you're better than your lane mate, it's up to you to win the lane. Do you honestly think that the top players on the ladder got through the 1200-1300 elo bracket by saying "oh. w/e i'm last pick so I'll play support, never take cs, and just watch my lane partner miss over 50% of the farm." I highly doubt that.

Note the relationship between someone who tilts enough to lose 100 Elo and someone who purposefully picks to spite their team. You have zero ability to know that you aren't legitimately the worst player on your team when you're making that pick to screw your own team.

The choice is to pick an offensive support, not to make your AD carry useless.

I don't really agree. Keep in mind that I'm talking about elo brackets lower than where you usually are. Bad luck happens and giant losing swings occur ever so often to everyone. Maybe it's different for you, but I know that I have dropped 100+ points below my average elo range due to combination of bad luck and letting my nub bro play on my account. For me, I sit around 1500-1600 elo range. Whenever I drop into the 1400s (or lower), I can play pretty much anything and win 90% of my games. Case in point: I dropped to 1400 flat last month 'cause of the shittiest luck (I got the same troll 5 games in a row even after taking a break, no joke). Once I hit 1420-ish I played Pantheon every game regardless of where my team sent me. I crushed basically every single game. At certain levels, it's possible to tell with a very high chance of success whether or not you're legitimately the best player on the team.

Besides, my original point wasn't whether or not you should steal farm from your carry. It was that below a certain elo range, in my experience, it's the 1400s, people simply don't fucking cs. Like you will run into people who get sub 50 cs in 15 minutes all the time. At those levels, there is absolutely no benefit in taking a support/babysitter champ over another carry or someone who can use farm.


The problem is, at that ELO literally like 5 out of 10 people per game on average have this mindset that you have where you need to carry by yourself.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 21 2011 05:28 GMT
#1374
On November 21 2011 13:42 Brees wrote:
top - gingerbrown

mid - the cpt america

jungler - TeddyRO

AD - xxphaxen

support - scyx17

ginger banned, try again buddy
:)
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 21 2011 05:30 GMT
#1375
On November 21 2011 14:28 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 13:42 Brees wrote:
top - gingerbrown

mid - the cpt america

jungler - TeddyRO

AD - xxphaxen

support - scyx17

ginger banned, try again buddy
Gingerbrown is like herpes.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 21 2011 05:34 GMT
#1376
Hum, is there a consensus on a good mastery page for support?
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
November 21 2011 05:44 GMT
#1377
top - kotiki
mid - becca
bot - kiruur & loco
jungle - missy

on a more srs note

top - voyboy : the only player who's playstyle matches what i think a top laner should be
mid - regi : supa dupa aggresive and consistently good in tourney's
jungle - saintvicious : the only problem with this dumbfuck is he jacks the AD's farm but wont happen with me !
bottom - loco & madlife : me and madlife are the best bottom duo in da game period

team chemistry will depend on if regi and saint can deflate thier heads for the sake of the team
i wish riot would give me better ping
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 05:45:24
November 21 2011 05:45 GMT
#1378
1200ish elo, is just over 300 CS on Gragas acceptable after 45 mins? I know it is nowhere near perfect, but I had the most CS in the game by at least 75
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 21 2011 05:51 GMT
#1379
On November 21 2011 14:44 locodoco wrote:
top - kotiki
mid - becca
bot - kiruur & loco
jungle - missy

on a more srs note

top - voyboy : the only player who's playstyle matches what i think a top laner should be
mid - regi : supa dupa aggresive and consistently good in tourney's
jungle - saintvicious : the only problem with this dumbfuck is he jacks the AD's farm but wont happen with me !
bottom - loco & madlife : me and madlife are the best bottom duo in da game period

team chemistry will depend on if regi and saint can deflate thier heads for the sake of the team


ironically, kotiki liked being on top.
Brees on in
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 21 2011 05:53 GMT
#1380
On November 21 2011 14:51 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 14:44 locodoco wrote:
top - kotiki
mid - becca
bot - kiruur & loco
jungle - missy

on a more srs note

top - voyboy : the only player who's playstyle matches what i think a top laner should be
mid - regi : supa dupa aggresive and consistently good in tourney's
jungle - saintvicious : the only problem with this dumbfuck is he jacks the AD's farm but wont happen with me !
bottom - loco & madlife : me and madlife are the best bottom duo in da game period

team chemistry will depend on if regi and saint can deflate thier heads for the sake of the team


ironically, kotiki liked being on top.

hahahahhaaa
:)
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