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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 21 2011 06:03 GMT
#1381
Mid: pre-slump Jiji (aka God mode Jiji) or Salce

Bot: Chaox and Pyri from Sypher

Jungler: Saint

Top: I never thought this would happen, but THE RAIN MAN. Westrice would make a good top as well though.
Priphea
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 06:06:30
November 21 2011 06:04 GMT
#1382
I want pre slump jiji back T_T

And I think for the purposes of this game the rules need to be that you get a bot lane pair, not an ad and support from different teams. A HUGE part of bot lane is chemistry IMO, and I dont think that you can just take, say Chaox and pair him with someone else and expect him to play nearly as well as he does with Xpecial.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
November 21 2011 06:15 GMT
#1383
mid: Reginald
Top: the rain man
Jungler: the odd one
Suppoer: Nat
AD: chaox
oh wait.... haha this is seriously the ideal team to me
"Only the Good Die Young"
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
November 21 2011 06:24 GMT
#1384
Top - Westrice
Mid- Reginald
Jungle- Saintvicious
Support- Nymph
AD- Chaox
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 07:01:15
November 21 2011 06:43 GMT
#1385
Wow, this makes me realize how much I like American teams even though I'm European.

Top - This one is the hardest for me, tossup between Wickd, The Rain Man and HotShotGG
Mid - I'd settle with Chauster now that Jiji isn't doing so hot anymore
Jungle - TheOddOne
Support - Nyph
AD - Chaox (this one is the easiest choice for me by far)

Edit: My bot lane is assuming Nyph and Chaox can play well together, otherwise I'd have Xpecial for bot <3
wat
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 21 2011 06:53 GMT
#1386
I must be the only person that thinks mellisan is a better support than nyph. Doesn't get caught as often.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
November 21 2011 07:09 GMT
#1387
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.

Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 21 2011 07:14 GMT
#1388
Ap mid tends to be a roundabout sort of lane. Nearly every character has stronger and weaker matchups. Brand is probably one of the strongest, as is Cass, kennen, and Sion, but Sion is permabanned atm. Of course, Kassadin will shit on most every ap mid, but gets destroyed by any team smart enough to send an ad carry against him. Not to mention Kass is an assassin, not a true ap carry. Basically the strongest AP you are going to find is the one you like the best and feel comfortable playing enough to learn where you stand against each hero you are going to face.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#1389
On November 21 2011 15:53 cascades wrote:
I must be the only person that thinks mellisan is a better support than nyph. Doesn't get caught as often.

Nah, I think so too. Mellisan plays a beautiful Janna, and is really solid with other supports as well.

Nyph just feeds oracles 24/7.
God Bless
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 21 2011 07:52 GMT
#1390
On November 21 2011 16:09 SirMilford wrote:
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.



If you're looking for a strong mid whose weakest lanes are merely even and skill dependent, just keep practicing Brand.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 21 2011 08:25 GMT
#1391
On November 21 2011 16:09 SirMilford wrote:
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.



brand, fizz, zilean, morgana
probably tops each for different reasons, though i'd be pretty wary about taking zilean in solo queue
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 21 2011 08:47 GMT
#1392
morgana sion

straight forward gameplay high survivability
cool beans
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 11:05:52
November 21 2011 08:49 GMT
#1393
FotM (heavily banned): Kass, Sion, Morg
Generally strong: Brand, Cass, Annie, Gragas, Ryze (although you need mana runes to really maximize him)
Super OP but somehow not banned: Xerath
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:13:41
November 21 2011 09:08 GMT
#1394
On November 21 2011 16:09 SirMilford wrote:
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.



Just play Annie. She's super easy, only 450 IP and has always been good. She's got a really strong lane (although she does have bad matchups) and her stun is as reliable as you can get assuming you manage your spells well/can keep your stun available for when you need it. If you're good at Annie and like one other solid AP character (such as Brand or Cassiopeia) you'll be pretty set. Also Annie doesn't get banned like ever anymore.

I don't like the pro players game much. Dream team would be the 2010 CLG all star roster. Everyone has to play old school meta and jiji isn't slumping and Kobe24 is playing again.
+ Show Spoiler +
If we're doing a team of favorites...Chauster, jiji, locodoco, Doublelift, and Kobe24. Those five can go fight over who plays what.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 21 2011 09:17 GMT
#1395
Honestly, my dream team is pretty much mTw.AL with Melissan replacing Failler as a support . Wickd is one of the best tops in the world, Froggen is awesome mid, Lyumi is a better carry than Candy (Yellowstar is probably better than both though, however I'm not too sure how well the synergy of the team would work) and Melissan is probably the best support in EU (Candy + Nyph is by far the best bot lane in EU though).
Go go Alliance.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:21:22
November 21 2011 09:19 GMT
#1396
On November 21 2011 18:08 overt wrote:
I don't like the pro players game much. Dream team would be the 2010 CLG all star roster. Everyone has to play old school meta and jiji isn't slumping and Kobe24 is playing again.
+ Show Spoiler +
If we're doing a team of favorites...Chauster, jiji, locodoco, Doublelift, and Kobe24. Those five can go fight over who plays what.

If we're talking people at their peak, I think Lilballz was a better jungler than on-form Kobe.

On November 21 2011 17:25 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 16:09 SirMilford wrote:
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.



brand, fizz, zilean, morgana
probably tops each for different reasons, though i'd be pretty wary about taking zilean in solo queue

No love for Xerath?
Moderator
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:21:14
November 21 2011 09:21 GMT
#1397
double post
Moderator
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 21 2011 09:31 GMT
#1398
On November 21 2011 18:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 18:08 overt wrote:
I don't like the pro players game much. Dream team would be the 2010 CLG all star roster. Everyone has to play old school meta and jiji isn't slumping and Kobe24 is playing again.
+ Show Spoiler +
If we're doing a team of favorites...Chauster, jiji, locodoco, Doublelift, and Kobe24. Those five can go fight over who plays what.

If we're talking people at their peak, I think Lilballz was a better jungler than on-form Kobe.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:25 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 21 2011 16:09 SirMilford wrote:
What hero would you guys recommend for an AP mid, Im not a beginner at the genre i have played hours upon hours of HoN/dota and my account in LoL is level 27.

Just looking for the strongest AP mid in the game against other AP mids. I will probably play ranked when i get to 30 using an AP mid aswell.

I enjoy brand but i feel that his stun is not as reliable as most other stuns. I can land it easly against less skilled mids but i have trouble when they start to actually dodge etc.



brand, fizz, zilean, morgana
probably tops each for different reasons, though i'd be pretty wary about taking zilean in solo queue

No love for Xerath?

NFGL!
i agree :D
(>°_°)>
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 21 2011 09:50 GMT
#1399
If on peak GJ top Jiji mid Ballz jungle Laoching and probably Sabertiger bot.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#1400
On November 21 2011 18:50 Southlight wrote:
If on peak GJ top Jiji mid Ballz jungle Laoching and probably Sabertiger bot.


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i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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