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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 21 2011 14:57 GMT
#1421
On November 21 2011 21:32 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 21:14 rob.au wrote:
You guys really believe these people are slumping or got worse and it's not that others got better and surpassed them?

In the case of Lilballz, I know he stopped playing entirely for a long period of time. I remember queueing up against him in normals to find out that he'd sold his account and the new owner chain lost down to 1400 Elo. So yes, it's pretty much guaranteed that he's playing worse after taking a break from the game (though he's playing again now on the Taiwanese server). IIRC the same is true of GJ and Scarlet--took a break from the game for a very long period of time. Naturally when they come back they're much worse than they were before. Not sure about Laoching and Saber, though I do know Laoching is still playing.

FTW (Lilballz's new team in Taiwan) is going to be at WCG, I think, so we'll see how good he is now compared to how he was.

A lot of the Koreans had to do their army service which is why they stopped playing.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 21 2011 15:22 GMT
#1422
On November 21 2011 22:01 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 19:27 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On November 21 2011 19:06 Southlight wrote:
I respect Loci but Jiji and GJ on solos was an absolute nightmare back in the day. It's obviously hard to compare across different times (evolving game/improving players/etc.) but at peak they definitely felt like a bigger terror.

They abused OP champions when there weren't enough bans for them. Big difference.


That's what literally every player in soloQ does, play the best champs available. Up until very recently there were only 4 bans so I'm not sure where you wanted to go with this. Loci is known most for his Morg, not exactly a weak pick(not saying he can't play others, obviously not true, but it's not true of the people you're apparently criticizing either).

There have been very few people who climbed soloQ and stayed high playing a niche champ, Chu8 probably the only really memorable one.

Pdiz! I dunno if Karth counts as a niche champ, though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
November 21 2011 15:31 GMT
#1423
At the time not many people were playing Karthus, so I guess he could.
wat
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 21 2011 16:25 GMT
#1424
Hmm so SK is going to run ocelete as top and Moma as mid. Good descion because Moma can't do AP top at all. Though Ocelete top is going to be weird
Go go Alliance.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 21 2011 16:35 GMT
#1425
Greetings Summoner,

We hear your concerns surrounding dodge changes and some recent communication inconsistencies. We’re going to be able to share more details about how we intend to address your concerns soon. However, because this issue is still being discussed, we cannot offer proactive compensation for the runes at this time.

I have reviewed your account and it seems that you have either had a refund previously or the purchase of your dodge runes was outside of our 30 day exception policy. Unfortunately I will be unable to offer you a refund at this time.

Rest assured that we are dedicated to make you happy in this regard and we encourage you to share your thoughts about dodge runes on our forums:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=17329258#17329258

In the meantime, best of luck to you on the Fields of Justice!

Warmest Regards
XXXXXX





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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 21 2011 16:37 GMT
#1426
Just buy another one. It resets the system and you can refund the whole lot If reddit is correct
Go go Alliance.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 21 2011 16:39 GMT
#1427
nah... dont want take the risk and waste 900IP =(
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 21 2011 16:39 GMT
#1428
Or just wait till dodge gets officially removed and you'll be compensated.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 17:12:35
November 21 2011 17:12 GMT
#1429
On November 21 2011 22:15 Shawngood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now that MLG is over you guys might be interested in what has happend over on the EU server this weekend as the final qualifier for IEM Kiev took place on Saturday. The grid can be found here: http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/masters/global_challenge_kiev_final/rankings/

The biggest upset: SK and fnatic both did not manage to qualify!
While SK lost in the very last series against Team Empire from Russia, fnatic screwed up in the first two pre-qualifiers and wasn't even eligible to play on Saturday.

The three qualified teams:

mTw.Absolute Legends
Wickd - Bruiser
Lyumi - AD
Froggen - AP
Wewillfailer - Support
Kebap - Jungle

Their Danish players Wickd and Froggen dominated their lanes respectively throughout the tournament. Lyumi played a beastly AD although people might remember him from being a very dominant bruiser for Team Germany. Add in one of Europe's best Supports and Jungles and you got yourself one powerhouse of a team.

aAa
sOAZ - Bruiser
YellOwStaR - AD
Alth0r - AP
Osaft22 - Support
Linak - Jungle

This team has three French players on their best positions: YellOwStaR, Linak and sOAZ played together for aAa and Millenium before and always had great success. The team gets complemented by Ex-SK/Sypher AP Alth0r and veteran Osaft22 who played for SK's WCG team back in 2010.


Empire
AlexIch - AP
Darien - Bruiser
Genja - AD
DiamondProx - Jungle
GoSu Pepper - Support

They played rather unorthodox lineups with great success. AP Malphite and Wukong top, Support Nunu bottom, Urgot and Miss Fortune bottom. They are an all-Russian team that decided to play on EU West to get in more and better practice. As it turns out it was well worth it. The fans in Kiev will love to cheer for a Russian team, that's for sure.


A little reminder:
The second US pre-qualifier for Kiev will happen this Saturday. Sign up here: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/5on5/global_challenge_kiev2/signup/

So far qualified for the US-final:
1. Team SoloMid
2. v8 eSports
3. CLG
4. Goose

So hopefully we will see Dignitas, Epik etc. this weekend.


It looks like 4Deman casted most of em on his youtube channel. Do you have any recommendations for games to watch?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
November 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#1430
i don't know how you guys can put saint on your teams. whenever i watch CLG scrim, he's always the one arguing and he just seems like he has a huge ego. always makin trouble, i think he's holding back CLG by making the environment really unfriendly when the game isn't 100% ezpz.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 21 2011 17:18 GMT
#1431
Saint only argues with hotshot. But when people actually listen to his calls 100% and don't argue back they do really really well. He's a good leader and when you make a team you need that.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#1432
On November 22 2011 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Saint only argues with hotshot. But when people actually listen to his calls 100% and don't argue back they do really really well. He's a good leader and when you make a team you need that.


Yeah, I think if you look at the WCG qualifiers, I think both Hotshot and Saint make great calls when not in the presence of each other. Their personalities just clash terribly on CLG. Both see and understand the game quite well, but they just have different philosophies and styles when it comes to how to play.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#1433
On November 22 2011 02:15 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
i don't know how you guys can put saint on your teams. whenever i watch CLG scrim, he's always the one arguing and he just seems like he has a huge ego. always makin trouble, i think he's holding back CLG by making the environment really unfriendly when the game isn't 100% ezpz.


Hotshot and SV always argue about in-game decisions. SV calls one thing, Hotshot another, the team gets confused and nothing good comes out of it. Most of the time, they probably would've been fine following either call, but because they often split up because of the confusion, they end up having unneccessary deaths, etc all the time.

I feel that if Hotshot or SV (either one really) could just let the other person lead the team all the time, they would do SO much better. Of course, they're both wrong sometimes, but they should argue about that shit after the games instead of letting it affect the game they're currently in.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 21 2011 17:29 GMT
#1434
On November 21 2011 21:14 rob.au wrote:
You guys really believe these people are slumping or got worse and it's not that others got better and surpassed them?


As was addressed for the old players who took breaks and obviously aren't gonna be as good when they got back, I think most people will agree that jiji is just straight up slumping. It wasn't long ago at all that he was still super dominant, long after the other players had left or were just no where near as good as they used to be. It's not even that jiji is bad now or gets outplayed he just makes mistakes that he never made before. So in the case of jiji at least, yeah, he's slumping.

On November 22 2011 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Saint only argues with hotshot. But when people actually listen to his calls 100% and don't argue back they do really really well. He's a good leader and when you make a team you need that.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure saint is the biggest reason that CDE had a shot against Dignitas at WCG. Look at the series that they won, when they all listened to what saint said CDE 2-0'd Dignitas. Same goes for CLG in scrims. When everyone just does what saint says they do a lot better. Luckily Chauster is a lot less pussy on AP as well.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 21 2011 17:36 GMT
#1435
On November 22 2011 02:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Saint only argues with hotshot. But when people actually listen to his calls 100% and don't argue back they do really really well. He's a good leader and when you make a team you need that.

you obviously didn't watch the scrims last week. Hotshot managed to shut the hell up for about 3 games but Saint wouldn't have it. So instead he started bickering with Elementz. Saint has to argue with someone, it's just that Hotshot is 99% of the time the first one to argue back.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 21 2011 17:38 GMT
#1436
Elementz is garbage. So I fully agree with Saint! :>
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 21 2011 17:48 GMT
#1437
On November 22 2011 01:39 emucxg wrote:
nah... dont want take the risk and waste 900IP =(

Wait, you can get a refund of IP purchases if its within 30 days?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 17:55:36
November 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#1438
On November 22 2011 02:12 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Do you have any recommendations for games to watch?


You can watch whole thing here:
http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio2/b/300412367
http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio2/b/300421267
http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio2/b/300430547
http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio2/b/300439704

I don't think Sypher vs Empire was streamed by Joe and Deman.. but it was really worth watching. Sypher was streaming that game.. maybe there are vods of it somewhere.
Most of SK vs Empire is really good too.

And it's really shame how little those 2 casters know about EU scene beside few most notable teams (SK, fnatic, M).

Don't know about SK vs aAa.. but from endgame results 1st game looks most promising.
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 18:08:54
November 21 2011 18:00 GMT
#1439
Alternate vs. mTw, while heavily one-sided, was a great display of how strong the new team of Wickd is. Other than that the whole series of SK vs. Empire and SK vs. aAa was great to watch. Unfortunately I didn't catch anything of Sypher vs. Empire - gonna look for that now.

Regarding your complaint about the casters:
No matter if Rivingten, Preak or Joe I often cringed at some of their analysis this weekend. Especially when they start thinking about comps (to which lane each hero will go and who beats who) it really shows how little they actually know compared to people who watch streams and scrims of proteams a lot. They also seem to lack the knowledge of what champions some of the players are especially good at...

Then again they know how to create tension and do great play-by-play commentary which is waaaay more difficult than analyzing picks or the game in general I think.
@ESL_Shawn
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 18:30:54
November 21 2011 18:26 GMT
#1440
On November 22 2011 03:00 Shawngood wrote:
Alternate vs. mTw, while heavily one-sided, was a great display of how strong the new team of Wickd is. Other than that the whole series of SK vs. Empire and SK vs. aAa was great to watch. Unfortunately I didn't catch anything of Sypher vs. Empire - gonna look for that now.

Regarding your complaint about the casters:
No matter if Rivingten, Preak or Joe I often cringed at some of their analysis this weekend. Especially when they start thinking about comps (to which lane each hero will go and who beats who) it really shows how little they actually know compared to people who watch streams and scrims of proteams a lot. They also seem to lack the knowledge of what champions some of the players are especially good at...

Then again they know how to create tension and do great play-by-play commentary which is waaaay more difficult than analyzing picks or the game in general I think.

Just wait till they put out a replay system so that I can get some practice commentating. Then just hire me for IEM NPNP.

Currently their biggest problem is their lack of knowledge. They dont know what builds are, they dont know players styles, strong champs, or really even what decent teamcomps are atm. Like the biggest example was phreak saying that GP was gonna be a jungle yesterday, when it was pretty well known that jungleplanks sucked with the old masteries.

The other thing they do is analyze teamcomps INCREDIBLY poorly. Most of the time anyone with >1500 level knowledge knows what a teamcomp is geared towards, yet for some reason phreak et al are incapable of actually looking at comps, deciphering what they mean, and then putting together the scenario in which each team wins.
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