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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
November 06 2011 14:04 GMT
#1821
On November 06 2011 18:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 17:50 Phunkapotamus wrote:
WTF. Since when is queuedodging 15 minutes? Why the hell do we have to deal with that shit anyway?

I got queued with some crappy lee sin that we destroyed the previous game. Dude picks lee sin in my game, so i decide to dodge and get 15 minutes? Last time I dodged was over a month ago :/

you also get -elo if it's ranked.

they do that so people dont just constantly dodge every time they dont get what they want.

I was wondering were some of my elo whent when I had 2 bad teams in a row. I mean really bad compositions with only tops and ad's and stuff(try a game with 3 ad carries lol). I always wonder why people go in solo and only are able to play a single champion on oneposition. The limit of 2 runepages at start hurts too of course but usually you can play one champ on a third position or another champ with not optimal but still decent runes.
I will finally spend some time with olaf again after the ulti-buff and I seriously hope that the bug in the champion picking screen gets fixed where when someone leaves/disconnects the game often does not find a new team and everyone has to wait for 5 minutes untill the timers have gone down.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 14:24:24
November 06 2011 14:24 GMT
#1822
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

Why did YOU not have 80 armor before lvl 6 against Talon? You would win in the long run if both of you stack armor because Talon needs to build offense more than Wukong.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
November 06 2011 14:29 GMT
#1823
On November 06 2011 23:24 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

Why did YOU not have 80 armor before lvl 6 against Talon? You would win in the long run if both of you stack armor because Talon needs to build offense more than Wukong.


re-read correctly, he was Talon playing against Wukong :>
Romanes eunt domus
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 06 2011 14:50 GMT
#1824
On November 06 2011 23:29 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 23:24 spinesheath wrote:
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

Why did YOU not have 80 armor before lvl 6 against Talon? You would win in the long run if both of you stack armor because Talon needs to build offense more than Wukong.


re-read correctly, he was Talon playing against Wukong :>

Oh lol, reading is too hard.
Yep, Armor owns Talon huehue.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 06 2011 14:59 GMT
#1825
On November 06 2011 23:50 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 23:29 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On November 06 2011 23:24 spinesheath wrote:
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

Why did YOU not have 80 armor before lvl 6 against Talon? You would win in the long run if both of you stack armor because Talon needs to build offense more than Wukong.


re-read correctly, he was Talon playing against Wukong :>

Oh lol, reading is too hard.
Yep, Armor owns Talon huehue.

Spines, you hurt my feelings. T_T


GG,Wukong, hes so strong :S Sleeper OP?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22499 Posts
November 06 2011 15:11 GMT
#1826
Not even very sleeper. The good players almost all know Wukong is good but the rest of the players havnt caught on yet since he was bad on release cause of bugs.
It takes ages for the communitie to discover a champion is good if he isnt horribly op from day 1
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 06 2011 15:11 GMT
#1827
On November 06 2011 14:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
unichan i am a chinese guy your age....

anyways, does anyone remember when everyone switched from armour pen to flat ad for quints? and the maths behind it of course.


Definitely happened this time last year, when armor pen runes were all nerfed and flat AD got a huge buff.
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
November 06 2011 15:32 GMT
#1828
On November 06 2011 19:52 Alzadar wrote:
Why do I never see Galio except during Galio's free week? He seems so strong and I always see people do well with him (when he's free).

I tried playing Galio a few times in ranked, and the experience was beyond miserable. There's no point in playing Galio if your team is not going to take advantage of your ult and herp derp around, so I'm done with him until I'm higher elo.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#1829
His clone thing isn't fucking obvious LOL I stunned one of them yesterday then felt stupid. Definitely at least that alone made Wukong a whole lot better.
:)
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 06 2011 15:47 GMT
#1830
Wukong decoy escape is almost as good as Shaco's deceive, just that he can't juke you in the jungle nearly as well
3.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 15:49:53
November 06 2011 15:49 GMT
#1831
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 06 2011 16:12 GMT
#1832
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 06 2011 16:42 GMT
#1833
On November 07 2011 00:36 unichan wrote:
His clone thing isn't fucking obvious LOL I stunned one of them yesterday then felt stupid. Definitely at least that alone made Wukong a whole lot better.




dat clone, or faking to be a clone. too guud.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 06 2011 17:10 GMT
#1834
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

That never works on solo Q. Believe me.
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Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 06 2011 17:11 GMT
#1835
On November 07 2011 01:12 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.

That team too AoE Magic heavy, if the enemy survives with even 10% health you won't actually kill any of them. Throw in Wukong for imbalanced AoE ult with some actual single target ability.
3.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 06 2011 17:13 GMT
#1836
On November 06 2011 22:27 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

70 Armor at level 1 isn't even that uncommon, is it? :D

I'm really losing sympathy for Dignitas at the moment. First the whole scumbag Jatt incident, now scarra revealing how much money TSM supposedly made like it's ANY of his business... They are still my favourite team to watch by far, but I'm not sure if I'd be any sad if they lose an important game at this point.


Where did you got that info that he is talking about TSM how much they recieve.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
November 06 2011 17:23 GMT
#1837
On November 07 2011 02:11 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.

That team too AoE Magic heavy, if the enemy survives with even 10% health you won't actually kill any of them. Throw in Wukong for imbalanced AoE ult with some actual single target ability.


If they survive with 10% hp then get towers dragons barons and nexuseses.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 06 2011 17:32 GMT
#1838
On November 07 2011 02:23 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 02:11 Inschato wrote:
On November 07 2011 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.

That team too AoE Magic heavy, if the enemy survives with even 10% health you won't actually kill any of them. Throw in Wukong for imbalanced AoE ult with some actual single target ability.


If they survive with 10% hp then get towers dragons barons and nexuseses.

No see because you don't survive.
3.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 06 2011 17:36 GMT
#1839
On November 07 2011 02:32 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 02:23 -Kato- wrote:
On November 07 2011 02:11 Inschato wrote:
On November 07 2011 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.

That team too AoE Magic heavy, if the enemy survives with even 10% health you won't actually kill any of them. Throw in Wukong for imbalanced AoE ult with some actual single target ability.


If they survive with 10% hp then get towers dragons barons and nexuseses.

No see because you don't survive.

I think you underestimate the killing potential of a Galio/Nunu/Fiddle against enemies at 10%. Vastly.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 06 2011 17:41 GMT
#1840
On November 07 2011 02:32 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 02:23 -Kato- wrote:
On November 07 2011 02:11 Inschato wrote:
On November 07 2011 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 00:49 RogerX wrote:
Try playing Galio with Amumu + Nunu

or fiddle, probably fiddle.

Or janna. The joys of soloq.

That team too AoE Magic heavy, if the enemy survives with even 10% health you won't actually kill any of them. Throw in Wukong for imbalanced AoE ult with some actual single target ability.


If they survive with 10% hp then get towers dragons barons and nexuseses.

No see because you don't survive.


I don't really know if I believe that in the slightest. If We knock them down to 10% life it takes an extreme amount of discipline to not immediately flee in solo queue (considering we should be at almost full health after this because WotA) and all of those champions have some decent damage dealing abilities outside their ult (barring mummy, but he still does % health damage) and decent CC (fear, slow, stun).
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