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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 06 2011 09:06 GMT
#1801
On November 06 2011 17:50 Phunkapotamus wrote:
WTF. Since when is queuedodging 15 minutes? Why the hell do we have to deal with that shit anyway?

I got queued with some crappy lee sin that we destroyed the previous game. Dude picks lee sin in my game, so i decide to dodge and get 15 minutes? Last time I dodged was over a month ago :/

you also get -elo if it's ranked.

they do that so people dont just constantly dodge every time they dont get what they want.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 06 2011 09:31 GMT
#1802
On November 06 2011 18:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 17:50 Phunkapotamus wrote:
WTF. Since when is queuedodging 15 minutes? Why the hell do we have to deal with that shit anyway?

I got queued with some crappy lee sin that we destroyed the previous game. Dude picks lee sin in my game, so i decide to dodge and get 15 minutes? Last time I dodged was over a month ago :/

you also get -elo if it's ranked.

they do that so people dont just constantly dodge every time they dont get what they want.

And when your client crashes(session closed for example) you lose elo aswell, pretty hilarious.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
November 06 2011 09:41 GMT
#1803
Quick question, is graves still a must ban after his nerfs? i have not gotten to play this patch but i really enjoy graves so hoping the nerfs brought him down to earth so i can actually play him.
~
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
November 06 2011 09:44 GMT
#1804
People are still banning Akali in my elo. It annoys the hell out of me.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
November 06 2011 10:25 GMT
#1805
I get pissed when I see people ban Akali.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 06 2011 10:34 GMT
#1806
On November 06 2011 14:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
unichan i am a chinese guy your age....

anyways, does anyone remember when everyone switched from armour pen to flat ad for quints? and the maths behind it of course.

The math behind it:
- Slightly more damage to champions at the first few levels depending on the enemy's runes/masteries/Taric. This one is hardly enough to justify the change.
- More damage to minions. Makes lasthitting easier when unharrassed by simply dealing more damage (this is for the baddies), and makes lasthitting easier while harrassed by increasing the window you have to lasthit (this is for the better players who wouldn't need the AD if they were lasthitting while unharrassed).
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 06 2011 10:49 GMT
#1807
Arp quints were a total waste earlygame against squishies.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#1808
Why do I never see Galio except during Galio's free week? He seems so strong and I always see people do well with him (when he's free).
I am the Town Medic.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 06 2011 10:53 GMT
#1809
Because people only play popular/fotm champs and galio isn't one of those. If he got a teeny tiny buff people would start playing him because, everything that got buffed is good!
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 06 2011 11:21 GMT
#1810
On November 06 2011 19:49 JackDino wrote:
Arp quints were a total waste earlygame against squishies.

marks + quints + masteries = 31 APen

average armor at lvl 1: ~17.
at lvl 5: ~30.
Armor seals: +13
Masteries: +6

So against a champ running armor seals (not unrealistic when the enemy expects to lane against a ranged AD...), APen quints already are good at lvl 1/2.


It's about the minion damage.
Don't claim other things just because "good players don't need AD to lasthit".
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 06 2011 11:25 GMT
#1811
so, assuming the early lvl advantage is ignored / last hitting advantage is not important for pros, does arpen start becoming better?

(i'd like to see the maths with a triforce build / bc build too)
cool beans
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
November 06 2011 11:39 GMT
#1812
On November 06 2011 19:53 JackDino wrote:
Because people only play popular/fotm champs and galio isn't one of those. If he got a teeny tiny buff people would start playing him because, everything that got buffed is good!

Also because people aren't willing to try some champions when they are all priced at 6300 IP
Jaehoon - Master strategist
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 06 2011 11:46 GMT
#1813
On November 06 2011 19:34 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
unichan i am a chinese guy your age....

anyways, does anyone remember when everyone switched from armour pen to flat ad for quints? and the maths behind it of course.

The math behind it:
- Slightly more damage to champions at the first few levels depending on the enemy's runes/masteries/Taric. This one is hardly enough to justify the change.
- More damage to minions. Makes lasthitting easier when unharrassed by simply dealing more damage (this is for the baddies), and makes lasthitting easier while harrassed by increasing the window you have to lasthit (this is for the better players who wouldn't need the AD if they were lasthitting while unharrassed).


AD is still better for champs with AD scaling on magic damage abilities, a la Yorick.
Hey! How you doin'?
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
November 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#1814
any1 have a steam account with left for dead 2 that i can borrow?
i wish riot would give me better ping
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 06 2011 12:10 GMT
#1815
On November 06 2011 20:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
so, assuming the early lvl advantage is ignored / last hitting advantage is not important for pros, does arpen start becoming better?

(i'd like to see the maths with a triforce build / bc build too)

It IS important. Normally you would try to punish an enemy every time he goes for a lasthit because he has to choose between taking gold+damage and retaliation. But the more AD you have, the bigger your window for lasthitting, and the easier it becomes to avoid that harrass while still getting the farm.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 12:30:33
November 06 2011 12:27 GMT
#1816
Right now, I see xerath as really op and shaco, skarner as stupid strong. Wukong, sion and riven are next up there. Just my opinion. I hate how "range" can be a problem so they nerf orianna and then release someone with even more burst and longer range right after. zzz.
Shaco ganks are really hard to see coming, skarner's infinite slow on his Q and the damage on it is really, really strong.
Wukong's actually a really good pick now imo.
Sion is FotM
Riven is secret op. and underestimated by a lot of people in how much she can burst
BW -> League -> CSGO
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 06 2011 13:07 GMT
#1817
Oh god just playe my first game with Xerath, who the hell thought a hero with that range is a good idea. Steal ALL the dragons, ALL the barons and kill ALL the heroes.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 06 2011 13:14 GMT
#1818
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 06 2011 13:27 GMT
#1819
On November 06 2011 22:14 RogerX wrote:
Lol top laned against Wukong as Talon, couldn't do crap cus he had around 80 armor before lvl 6 ~_~ insane.

70 Armor at level 1 isn't even that uncommon, is it? :D

I'm really losing sympathy for Dignitas at the moment. First the whole scumbag Jatt incident, now scarra revealing how much money TSM supposedly made like it's ANY of his business... They are still my favourite team to watch by far, but I'm not sure if I'd be any sad if they lose an important game at this point.
currently rooting for myself.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
November 06 2011 13:49 GMT
#1820
Did scarra get any flak and how much did he receive?
Stuck.
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