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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 24 2011 19:37 GMT
#1501
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.



wat
Nasus is like the hardcounter to yorick t.t
just farm his minions and build defensively
after 30 minutes your Q will be 9000 and after like level 5 his harass does nothing through your lifesteal on his ghouls
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 19:39 GMT
#1502
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

how are you speccing? Yorrick's damage makes me lol when I spen 20 Armor from runes, 0/21/9, open cloth + 5 -> CDR boots -> Glacial Shroud and just Q on every CD. I'd level E 2nd in case you need to shove the lane back to buy at points, but nasus's sustain is strong enough that he should crush Yorrick IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 24 2011 19:44 GMT
#1503
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.
Brees on in
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 24 2011 19:55 GMT
#1504
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



I played against a GP as Irelia who did this to me. I gave fb, but I bought wriggles and was able to pull ahead after I got Hitan Style leveled up.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 24 2011 19:59 GMT
#1505
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



...
that's not a troll setup
that's literally exactly how you play pantheon
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
whatsupchan
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
October 24 2011 20:08 GMT
#1506
On October 25 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



...
that's not a troll setup
that's literally exactly how you play pantheon


he is talking about gp btw

also what's good top vs tryn
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 24 2011 20:09 GMT
#1507
On October 25 2011 05:08 whatsupchan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



...
that's not a troll setup
that's literally exactly how you play pantheon


he is talking about gp btw

also what's good top vs tryn

I got dicked on by ryze as trynd.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 20:13 GMT
#1508
I dickbutt Trynd with Nasus and Jarman and do the Irelia winning the lane thing where it doesn't look like anything's happening and then you're level 9 and suddenly the other guy loses all their health whenever you decide to use your abilities on them. Also, standard anti-melee casters like swain, ryze, rumble and karma fuck him up pretty good.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 24 2011 20:13 GMT
#1509
On October 25 2011 05:08 whatsupchan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



...
that's not a troll setup
that's literally exactly how you play pantheon


he is talking about gp btw

also what's good top vs tryn


i understand that
but the fact that they're both melee with a ranged harass that can crit
and he outlined literally the exact runes/masteries and playstyle that you use on pantheon
this is far from a "troll set-up"

i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 20:15 GMT
#1510
Mostly it just begs the question, "why the fuck would you ever play Pantheon, when you could play a real character who does everything he does better?"
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 24 2011 20:17 GMT
#1511
On October 25 2011 05:15 Mogwai wrote:
Mostly it just begs the question, "why the fuck would you ever play Pantheon, when you could play a real character who does everything he does better?"

Because pantheon doesnt wear pants.


Which, when I think about it, makes my calling him "pants" as a nickname weird, even for me.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
October 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#1512
On October 25 2011 04:39 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

how are you speccing? Yorrick's damage makes me lol when I spen 20 Armor from runes, 0/21/9, open cloth + 5 -> CDR boots -> Glacial Shroud and just Q on every CD. I'd level E 2nd in case you need to shove the lane back to buy at points, but nasus's sustain is strong enough that he should crush Yorrick IMO.


Yeah, I don't really have the runes for Nasus yet, need armor. I opened Doran's shield usually but cloth + 5 would work out better.

Only hit 30 recently so all my IP goes to runes, I should just give up and spend actual money on champs -_-
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#1513
On October 25 2011 05:13 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 05:08 whatsupchan wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:44 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:26 JackDino wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:21 Brees wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
that or just play nasus, where every lane is, "build defensive CDR, sit there, farm Q, victory."


remember that troll gangplank setup I use for top lane? its netted me first blood in every single solo queue game ive ever played gangplank in trolololol. its so broken.

Can you share it?

On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

You can farm up your Q on his minions atleast, and if you run in the brush his minions do nothing.



21-9-0 masteries, ignite/flash.

armor pen reds ad quints flat armor/mr yellow/blue

start doran blade

get Q at level 1.

Q them everytime possible, AA to last hit. make sure you are autoing the lane so you get level 2 first. grab E and as soon as you see them overextend for a last hit Q --> activate E and run up to them and kill them. first blood.



...
that's not a troll setup
that's literally exactly how you play pantheon


he is talking about gp btw

also what's good top vs tryn


i understand that
but the fact that they're both melee with a ranged harass that can crit
and he outlined literally the exact runes/masteries and playstyle that you use on pantheon
this is far from a "troll set-up"



then I spam laugh and dance on their dead bodies after i obtain first blood. It is now a troll set up.
Brees on in
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 20:46:26
October 24 2011 20:43 GMT
#1514
On October 25 2011 05:35 Harrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:39 Mogwai wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

how are you speccing? Yorrick's damage makes me lol when I spen 20 Armor from runes, 0/21/9, open cloth + 5 -> CDR boots -> Glacial Shroud and just Q on every CD. I'd level E 2nd in case you need to shove the lane back to buy at points, but nasus's sustain is strong enough that he should crush Yorrick IMO.


Yeah, I don't really have the runes for Nasus yet, need armor. I opened Doran's shield usually but cloth + 5 would work out better.

Only hit 30 recently so all my IP goes to runes, I should just give up and spend actual money on champs -_-


EXTREMELY helpful rune guide: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=5693

I hope you had been saving your IP, but if not the 10 win IP boost should help. Here's what you should get as a fresh 30:

Reds: 9x armor pen (410 ip), 9x magic pen (410 ip)
Yellow: 9x flat armor (205 ip)
Blue: 9x flat OR scaling MR (205 ip)
Quints: 3x AD OR armor pen (1025 ip), 3x flat AP (1025 ip)

The total cost to be able to play any generic AD/AP/jungler is 17,220 ip. You can even grab halloween quints for half off the quints.

EDIT: flat armor yellows are probably the single best rune investment in the game. For a mere 205 ip each, you get runes that are necessary as junglers and AD carries, and almost always used as solo top. Dodge is 4x as expensive and a lot more situational, and mana per 5 is a lot less useful overall.
Zenithal
Profile Joined August 2011
United States142 Posts
October 24 2011 20:45 GMT
#1515
Huarg, why is it so hard to get to 6300 >:\
Whatevs
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 24 2011 20:46 GMT
#1516
So can anyone explain to me why minions sometimes change targets from one enemy minion to another even though neither player is drawing aggro?

Or is it just that those cannon minions are trying to steal my lasthits - because that's what it looks like.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 24 2011 20:47 GMT
#1517
Cannon minions are assholes.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 20:49:12
October 24 2011 20:47 GMT
#1518
Pant kills Trynd while exhausted trough trynd ult np. Pant passive OP.
On October 25 2011 05:46 spinesheath wrote:
So can anyone explain to me why minions sometimes change targets from one enemy minion to another even though neither player is drawing aggro?

Or is it just that those cannon minions are trying to steal my lasthits - because that's what it looks like.

Sometimes admins are bored and like to do stuff without affecting games too much.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
October 24 2011 20:56 GMT
#1519
On October 25 2011 05:43 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 05:35 Harrow wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:39 Mogwai wrote:
On October 25 2011 04:24 Harrow wrote:
HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyone got any tips for playing against Yorick top as Nasus? If I play passive and just farm, he can harrass me, and if I'm trying to trade damage I'm losing Q farm and he's usually out-sustaining me.

how are you speccing? Yorrick's damage makes me lol when I spen 20 Armor from runes, 0/21/9, open cloth + 5 -> CDR boots -> Glacial Shroud and just Q on every CD. I'd level E 2nd in case you need to shove the lane back to buy at points, but nasus's sustain is strong enough that he should crush Yorrick IMO.


Yeah, I don't really have the runes for Nasus yet, need armor. I opened Doran's shield usually but cloth + 5 would work out better.

Only hit 30 recently so all my IP goes to runes, I should just give up and spend actual money on champs -_-


EXTREMELY helpful rune guide: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=5693

I hope you had been saving your IP, but if not the 10 win IP boost should help. Here's what you should get as a fresh 30:

Reds: 9x armor pen (410 ip), 9x magic pen (410 ip)
Yellow: 9x flat armor (205 ip)
Blue: 9x flat OR scaling MR (205 ip)
Quints: 3x AD OR armor pen (1025 ip), 3x flat AP (1025 ip)

The total cost to be able to play any generic AD/AP/jungler is 17,220 ip. You can even grab halloween quints for half off the quints.

EDIT: flat armor yellows are probably the single best rune investment in the game. For a mere 205 ip each, you get runes that are necessary as junglers and AD carries, and almost always used as solo top. Dodge is 4x as expensive and a lot more situational, and mana per 5 is a lot less useful overall.


Cool tips, thanks. I've been building a few sets since 20 (MPen, scaling mregen, flat CDR - bought health quints about a year ago, immediately before they got nerfed -_-) but I'm trying to branch out beyond just playing support or AP.
whatsupchan
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
October 24 2011 20:59 GMT
#1520
why don't we have a nasus topic that guy is p cool
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