EPT[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 77
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Iskusstvo
United Kingdom323 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:37 gtrsrs wrote: wat Nasus is like the hardcounter to yorick t.t just farm his minions and build defensively after 30 minutes your Q will be 9000 and after like level 5 his harass does nothing through your lifesteal on his ghouls Does Nasus Q work on Yoricks ghouls(giving you the boost i mean)? | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:46 spinesheath wrote: So can anyone explain to me why minions sometimes change targets from one enemy minion to another even though neither player is drawing aggro? Or is it just that those cannon minions are trying to steal my lasthits - because that's what it looks like. This is why I hate minions in this game. :| | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:15 Mogwai wrote: Mostly it just begs the question, "why the fuck would you ever play Pantheon, when you could play a real character who does everything he does better?" pantheons is really good in our current meta as far as i'm concerned get fed top, switch to bot, rape their carry over and over aoe burst their whole team with heartseeker, win game at 20 | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:56 Harrow wrote: Cool tips, thanks. I've been building a few sets since 20 (MPen, scaling mregen, flat CDR - bought health quints about a year ago, immediately before they got nerfed -_-) but I'm trying to branch out beyond just playing support or AP. Sigh I hear you. I did the exact same thing - bought ArPen / MPen / scaling mp5 / flat CDR / health quints exactly one year ago at around level 28 or 29 (so I had no extra IP for anything else), then quit the game. Came back 2 months ago, found out my yellow, blue, and quints are basically useless. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:59 whatsupchan wrote: why don't we have a nasus topic that guy is p cool http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245795¤tpage=3 not that good tho but we do have a topic for him | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:17 Two_DoWn wrote: Which, when I think about it, makes my calling him "pants" as a nickname weird, even for me. You just aren't hipster enough to get it. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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Shiv.
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On October 25 2011 06:51 Chocolate wrote: Noob question: I don't understand the lane-role meta very well. Solo top are generally tanky, and often melee. Why do teams never put hard carries like kog or cait on top, to harrass the solo out of the lane and draw the attention of the jungler? Or am i just completely mistaken? Cause your bruiser at bottom would get equally shat on like theirs top, making dragon control much easier for the team with AD+Support bottom. This being said, lane switches have been occurring pretty often as of lately in competetive play. Teleport makes a huge difference, but then again: who wants a ranged AD carry with TP instead of Exhaust? Things you WILL occasionally see top are Corki and Vayne, but that's about it. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:46 spinesheath wrote: So can anyone explain to me why minions sometimes change targets from one enemy minion to another even though neither player is drawing aggro? Or is it just that those cannon minions are trying to steal my lasthits - because that's what it looks like. Minions follow the aggro rules also--if a minion attacks you because its target died and you were the closest target in range, allied minions in range will aggro to it. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 25 2011 06:55 Shiv. wrote: Cause your bruiser at bottom would get equally shat on like theirs top, making dragon control much easier for the team with AD+Support bottom. This being said, lane switches have been occurring pretty often as of lately in competetive play. Teleport makes a huge difference, but then again: who wants a ranged AD carry with TP instead of Exhaust? Things you WILL occasionally see top are Corki and Vayne, but that's about it. There is no rule that you must have a bruiser on your team. If you dominate top instead of just freefarm for both, teleport isn't as important because the enemy top won't be very strong when he teleports in for Dragon, and you will be strong enough to take top tower if he leaves. There also is no rule that the ranged AD has to take Exhaust. It's good, but not mandatory. Other champs can take it just as well and still exhaust the same enemy at the right time assuming they position properly. Kog isn't soloing top because he will just get crushed by the enemy jungler. Vayne can do a lot better, as does Teemo, but people are just too focused on the current default setup. It takes some thought and flexibility to do other setups. Sadly you can't expect that in solo Q. On October 25 2011 07:05 TheYango wrote: Minions follow the aggro rules also--if a minion attacks you because its target died and you were the closest target in range, allied minions in range will aggro to it. I'm pretty sure that's not what happened when that cannon minion randomly switched targets to steal a cs. The enemy wasn't close enough to the minion in question to draw aggro from it. | ||
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Shiv.
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On October 25 2011 07:08 spinesheath wrote: There is no rule that you must have a bruiser on your team. If you dominate top instead of just freefarm for both, teleport isn't as important because the enemy top won't be very strong when he teleports in for Dragon, and you will be strong enough to take top tower if he leaves. There also is no rule that the ranged AD has to take Exhaust. It's good, but not mandatory. Other champs can take it just as well and still exhaust the same enemy at the right time assuming they position properly. I totally agree that the current meta could need some switching up, and I wish people would experiment with stuff like 2 ranged AD no bruiser. A few things to consider though, in my opinion: - A bruiser usually synergizes better with the rest of your team in teamfights than another ranged carry would (assumption) - The enemy teleporting in might not be very strong, but he is still THERE. It's still a 4v5 or at least a 4v4,5. - Taking the tower might work once, but I doubt the enemy will teleport in with a wave pushing near his 2nd turret. - I know there's no rule for exhaust, but I'm pretty sure you'd gimp your laning heavily without it. Also, relying on someone else to exhaust someone diving you in your usually pretty dynamic teamfight is pretty risky. All those things being said, I do not doubt switching things up could work insanely well. It would probably just need a team practicing this stuff, and that's basically what we lack right now. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:36 NeoIllusions wrote: That's +IP Bonus for 10 games. Riot won Golden Joystick award again this year. This is the prize for the masses. mortal kombat won best fighting game. what a joke  i don't wanna buy graves. right now i have cait, ashe, vayne, kog, trist, in order of what im best at. should i bother buying ez/urgot and which of the above should i improve | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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