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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 03:48:59
October 19 2011 03:47 GMT
#81
I'm now 100% convinved that you just go Fromal+Warmogs+Atmas and just run around the map killing everything. As graves that is.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 19 2011 03:48 GMT
#82
Teemo's blind, movespeed, and poison makes him the perfect counter to tanky dps. The problem with sticking any old ranged ad against bruisers like irelia is that when they can just get close to you fairly quickly, your prolly gonna die. There is a reason they are called ranged ad.

Teemo avoids this by being fast to avoid a lot of opportunities for punishment, and his shrooms and blind make it easy to get back to distance.
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
October 19 2011 03:53 GMT
#83
Holy shit that smoke screen will be annoying. It's similar to how I always wanted rogues smoke bomb to work in WoW.

"Okay guys I got him, just one last [insert random damage], nvm can't see him anymore..."
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 19 2011 03:53 GMT
#84
Just watched Graves spotlight. He can probably be a decent jungler with the innate armor gain from his passive and Buckshot will probably clear camps pretty quickly.

Phreak moused over the tooltip in the video and I think I saw 4 armor / MRes per stack for 7 stacks, I guess those numbers are fairly reasonable.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 19 2011 04:00 GMT
#85
Because we needed more champions with free blinks and super gay nocturne-ult style abilities...

Thanks, Riot.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 19 2011 04:00 GMT
#86
Just from the spotlight video I feel like doing anything but standard AD on him would be pretty dumb. I'm sure people will try and play him as a bruiser but unless his base stats are super good I feel like it'll be pointless to play him over an actual bruiser.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 19 2011 04:06 GMT
#87
On October 19 2011 13:00 overt wrote:
Just from the spotlight video I feel like doing anything but standard AD on him would be pretty dumb. I'm sure people will try and play him as a bruiser but unless his base stats are super good I feel like it'll be pointless to play him over an actual bruiser.


Except Graves is ranged so he doesn't have to be right next to someone, and he has a skill that force their ranged AD carry to either run away from the fight or closer towards it, but no matter what will force the carry to spend a couple seconds moving (smoke) instead of shooting which is effectively a CC that is not effected by tenacity
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 19 2011 04:08 GMT
#88
On October 19 2011 12:53 STS17 wrote:
Just watched Graves spotlight. He can probably be a decent jungler with the innate armor gain from his passive and Buckshot will probably clear camps pretty quickly.

Phreak moused over the tooltip in the video and I think I saw 4 armor / MRes per stack for 7 stacks, I guess those numbers are fairly reasonable.


4 armor/mr per stack, stacks up to 10 times. He was lvl 17 when he moused over it, wonder how the scaling works(2/3/4 per stack, stacks 10 times?)
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TofuFox
Profile Joined November 2010
374 Posts
October 19 2011 04:09 GMT
#89
On October 19 2011 12:53 STS17 wrote:
Phreak moused over the tooltip in the video and I think I saw 4 armor / MRes per stack for 7 stacks, I guess those numbers are fairly reasonable.


I saw same numbers, but 10 stacks. Maybe he moused over multiple times and stacks are level based, guess we'll find out tomorrow. Paraphrase of passive -

Passive: True Grit: Gains 4 armor and MR each second in combat, max 10 stacks. In combat if dealt or taken damage in last 5 seconds.

Didn't see numbers for anything else.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 19 2011 04:19 GMT
#90
man
riot needs to stop making 1-point wonder skills
like i can see that graves' smokescreen gets the full blindness from 1 point in it. what's the point of leveling it up then? a 3% bigger slow or something? you should be forced to make a choice when leveling up skills, much like champs like amumu have to make a choice. if amumu got the full damage reduction from tantrum with 1 point, he would just take 1 point of it and call it a day for jungling, AND THAT WOULD BE RETARDED. why does riot keep insisting on making these skills that you are essentially SUPPOSED to only take 1 point in? doesn't that water down options on how to play him?

that being said, i think he looks like a ton of fun to play AS (just not to play AGAINST) and he will be a day1 buy for me probably. 6300 IP hooooooooooo!!~~~
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
October 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#91
On October 19 2011 13:19 gtrsrs wrote:
man
riot needs to stop making 1-point wonder skills
like i can see that graves' smokescreen gets the full blindness from 1 point in it. what's the point of leveling it up then? a 3% bigger slow or something? you should be forced to make a choice when leveling up skills, much like champs like amumu have to make a choice. if amumu got the full damage reduction from tantrum with 1 point, he would just take 1 point of it and call it a day for jungling, AND THAT WOULD BE RETARDED. why does riot keep insisting on making these skills that you are essentially SUPPOSED to only take 1 point in? doesn't that water down options on how to play him?

that being said, i think he looks like a ton of fun to play AS (just not to play AGAINST) and he will be a day1 buy for me probably. 6300 IP hooooooooooo!!~~~


o m g its so true like wukong W they DIDNT EVEN NERF HIM so lame no wukong nerf NO riot point money from me.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2011 04:26 GMT
#92
taLbuK, I'm gonna temp ban you soon. -o-;;
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 19 2011 04:27 GMT
#93
To be fair, I do actually think wukong could be sleeper decent ATM.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 19 2011 04:31 GMT
#94
On October 19 2011 13:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
To be fair, I do actually think wukong could be sleeper decent ATM.


best ult in the game man...
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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 19 2011 04:31 GMT
#95
Love the nocturne thing.

"I gawt yer darrrkness"


I wish they'd add a lot more little interactions like that throughout the characters to encourage rivalries like swain and jarvan, warwick and soraka etc.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#96
Did anyone see what his attack range is? I'm hoping for 550 - 600, everything lower would make me sad.

Personally I'm not yet sold on him, his kit seems so awefully similar to Miss Fortune. Judging from the pure additional utility he has in form of his Q having more AoE damage and his W having that blind effect... his numbers SHOULD be lower than hers overall. If his skills do similar damage as MFs, he's an instabuy imo.

Q = MF Q (moar AoE, hopefully less damage)
W = MF E (AoE slow)+blind
E = MF W (AS steroid)+dash-healing reduction
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 19 2011 04:43 GMT
#97
Oh god, Graves' ult sounds ridiculous. Build him a bit tanky and he should be almost impossible to kill...
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:49:01
October 19 2011 04:48 GMT
#98
On October 19 2011 13:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
To be fair, I do actually think wukong could be sleeper decent ATM.

He is, but Talbuk is only in this forum to troll and incessantly talk about Wukong.
Does anyone else really love the idea of 'special interactions' like using smokescreen on Noc?

Like what if they started adding different ones (Jarv v. Swain for example)?
Would be so much fun....

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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 19 2011 04:52 GMT
#99
I'm having a hard time deciding whether to buy him actually, he feels like, nothing too new... I was hoping for something pretty damn original... Like, I think I can achieve better with MF imo.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 19 2011 04:55 GMT
#100
lategame vayne is so lawlzy. Right click and everything dies around you.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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