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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 19 2011 06:19 GMT
#121
On October 19 2011 15:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
I got raped by a solo top wukong earlier. I cried a bit inside.

Most annoying skill? W or E? Personally W.

OMG He hit me with his E, Better counter attack him with my skill!!! (Turns out the wukong is a W clone) FARR!
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 19 2011 06:22 GMT
#122
On October 19 2011 15:01 whatsupchan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 14:56 ArC_man wrote:
Anyone else get selected to go to some roundtable discussion about LoL?


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Not sure if scam >_>


yeah i got that email for 2 of my accounts

SEE YOU THERE THEN!
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
October 19 2011 06:24 GMT
#123
Since Riot seems to hate sustain-bruisers, I wonder if some of the other melee AD's that can't really survive top lane become more popular, i.e. Wukong.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 19 2011 06:56 GMT
#124
Fire 3 shots out of a doublebarreled shotgun.... this game is going crazy!
KCCO!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 19 2011 07:05 GMT
#125
wooooow this thread got movin fast
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
October 19 2011 07:08 GMT
#126
On October 19 2011 09:28 gtrsrs wrote:
People are looking a the gunblade nerf the wrong way - it's definitely not hurting jax as much as it's hurting akali

Akali gets more use out of the AD because of her passive which grants more spellvamp aka more sustain from more ad. Bugger ad nerf really kills her sustain without crushing her damage

In the other hand jax makes way more use of the ap which was hit much less. The high ratios on q and w make it so ap is desireable on him. So the ad nerf is far less significant - but the overall subtraction of both WILL hurt his tankiness


Totally wrong. Jax's AP ratios are bullshit and he needed the AD to do damage.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 07:09:22
October 19 2011 07:08 GMT
#127
On October 19 2011 15:19 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 15:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
I got raped by a solo top wukong earlier. I cried a bit inside.

Most annoying skill? W or E? Personally W.

OMG He hit me with his E, Better counter attack him with my skill!!! (Turns out the wukong is a W clone) FARR!


E all day for free harass. You want to hit back? nope, w clone. Oh, it's not a clone? eat another e with a q added onto that. Oh shit son, you think you almost got me? Nope, w clone. Hey look, i'm oom. No worries, you have no health and maokai camping my bush like my butt buddy. Sup, you got a problem?
Really wish my jungler was here.....wait, he's at the bottom of the map...for 15 minutes......trying to gank a corki who is pushed to his tower.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 19 2011 07:09 GMT
#128
jax was pretty strong as it was, they made him so stupid tanky and he hits like a truck early game
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 19 2011 07:30 GMT
#129
On October 19 2011 16:09 Caller wrote:
and he hits like a truck early game

A lot of people say this and it makes me feel quite inadequate. t.t From my experience you just can't beat any top lane with sustain/talon until you get ulti, vamp scepter and 1/2 dblades. What is your setup/laning strategy?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
October 19 2011 07:41 GMT
#130
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Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 19 2011 07:43 GMT
#131
ive never seen a champ spotlight that made me think "this guy is just too good" before. but dash and smokescreen are too good to both have on one character. if you exhaust, stun or strong slow (singed w is perfect) someone and then drop a smokescreen on them they might as well be in a mothership vortex. except when you kill their support you can kill them too. it could work as an ult but its fuckin op as a basic skill you level once.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 19 2011 07:47 GMT
#132
Maybe it's just me but I'm really not that impressed by Graves. The only skill of his that looks good is his smokescreen. All the other stuff seems kinda meh
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 19 2011 08:05 GMT
#133
Oh lame, I just got GP today and was enjoying him. This is a rather gay patch imo.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 19 2011 08:12 GMT
#134
dunno, his Q looks crazy versatile. minion clearing, point blank burst, poke, team fight AOE. Not sure about his E or his ult. From the preview his ult does a lot of damage, but it's a skillshot and not the easiest to place. His E is one of those situational steroids. Compared to impure shots or silver bolts it doesn't seem that great. All depends on how big and long that ASP boost is a max rank
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 19 2011 08:13 GMT
#135
On October 19 2011 12:38 Tabbris wrote:
I give u graves

"fairly early frozen mallet"
He has IE PD BT FM at 36 minutes.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 19 2011 08:14 GMT
#136
On October 19 2011 17:12 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
dunno, his Q looks crazy versatile. minion clearing, point blank burst, poke, team fight AOE. Not sure about his E or his ult. From the preview his ult does a lot of damage, but it's a skillshot and not the easiest to place. His E is one of those situational steroids. Compared to impure shots or silver bolts it doesn't seem that great. All depends on how big and long that ASP boost is a max rank

I think his ult could be pretty devastating when people get clumped up

other than that i dunno
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
October 19 2011 08:15 GMT
#137
Anyone else noticing the "True Grit" passive on Graves is very similiar to the "true grit" of space wolves in 40k lore? Space wolves can hold 2 bolters/weapons in their hands to fire simultaneously just as Graves holds 2 massive guns in his hands.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 19 2011 08:19 GMT
#138
On October 19 2011 17:15 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
Anyone else noticing the "True Grit" passive on Graves is very similiar to the "true grit" of space wolves in 40k lore? Space wolves can hold 2 bolters/weapons in their hands to fire simultaneously just as Graves holds 2 massive guns in his hands.

Wouldnt surprise me, theres a few WH40k references in the game i think ive read(one of garens skins for example)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 19 2011 08:23 GMT
#139
true grit is not a 40k specific reference, I believe it in itself is a reference to something else, possibly wild west gunslingers or the like. Also graves only has one gun, it just has two barrels ^^
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 19 2011 08:24 GMT
#140
Any predictions to what extent my beloved Katarina will suffer from the Gunblade nerf? The way I see it, the sustain nerfs don't hurt her as much as she's supposed to be played (quoting scarra here) as a major clean-up champ. The 20 AD, on the other side, take out a good chunk of Q and R damage. Not so worried about the R to be honest, it's at a place right now where you'll primarily use it to tag assists for Voracity or if you are 100% sure your sequence is going to be able to catch someone off guard, in which case I think it should still be good enough. But that Q is, obviously especially in combination with Voracity, so so vital for her to be strong right now... IDK.

Opinions?
currently rooting for myself.
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