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[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 9

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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#161
On October 19 2011 20:33 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 20:04 Attakijing wrote:
On October 19 2011 19:13 locodoco wrote:
streaming graves
http://www.own3d.tv/live/15083
btw i moved into a gaming house

you already stopped??? noooo

Elementz playing Graves atm:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/2770/RoG.CLGaming.net_-_Elementz

Looks pimp.
Finally a real male ad carry.

Corki?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 19 2011 11:42 GMT
#162
On October 19 2011 20:37 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 20:33 Redox wrote:
On October 19 2011 20:04 Attakijing wrote:
On October 19 2011 19:13 locodoco wrote:
streaming graves
http://www.own3d.tv/live/15083
btw i moved into a gaming house

you already stopped??? noooo

Elementz playing Graves atm:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/2770/RoG.CLGaming.net_-_Elementz

Looks pimp.
Finally a real male ad carry.

Corki?

Real man, Corki is a wuss, men fight with big double barrels that shoot 3 bullets.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 19 2011 11:44 GMT
#163
Real man drive flying saucers not stroll arround <<<
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 19 2011 11:47 GMT
#164
On October 19 2011 14:56 ArC_man wrote:
Anyone else get selected to go to some roundtable discussion about LoL?

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Greetings *snip*,

Riot Games is inviting League of Legends players in the Los Angeles area to participate* in an on-site round table discussion about League of Legends. Qualified individuals will receive $100 for their participation in a 90-minute interview at an easy-to-reach Santa Monica meeting space on the evening of October 20th.

If you would like to be considered for this discussion, please click on the following link and fill out the short questionnaire. If you meet the criteria for selection, we will contact you with further details, so be sure to include your cell phone number and email address. Only those who have supplied a cell phone number and email address will be considered.

The League thanks you for your time and interest, summoner! We look forward to your response!


Not sure if scam >_>

Cam confirm that this is real.

If any of you are ever in doubt as to the authenticity of an e-mail from Riot, check the Header of the e-mail in the e-mail options.

Also, re Graves: Was designed to make you feel like a badass guy who walks around and shoots things in the face with a shotgun. Corki doesn't quite have that feel. The feel of a character is important for their design (see: Kassadin or Ezrael). Also, Graves made by same team that made Rumble.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 19 2011 12:02 GMT
#165
whats graves range
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
October 19 2011 12:21 GMT
#166
550 range, wow Graves is the first champ that I was not disappointed with after buying since Nocturne.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 19 2011 12:38 GMT
#167
Damn it, I wish I didn't spend my IP on that rune page yesterday.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
October 19 2011 13:01 GMT
#168
Any spooky quints in available on US? I want to save some IP.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 19 2011 13:01 GMT
#169
I've thought alot about the gunblade nerf and I've come to this conclusion:

It was absolutely the right thing to do. I've had alot of games where I counterpicked akali in lane (garen/wukong/ww) and dominated her.

The problem: Akali didnt have to win her lane at all to be stomping you afterwards. When for example midlane is equal and botlane gets stomped then pressure is on you from their jungler. A good akali will eventually farm her GB nontheless if she's positioned solo top and that was often a too huge of a comeback tbh. Despite her losing lane, and as in this example, her ad carry winning his/hers you have to focus her nontheless. If her other mates are strong enough then they will charge your team boldly in a dragon/baron fight and she can despite being behind clean up everything with only her gunblade.

I've only encountered this just recently a couple of times. When solo top akali gunblade rushing first became popular a couple weeks ago then I laughed at the incompetence of most akali players. They had time to figure out the champ now and suddenly the imbalance came to light: this item was just too costefficient.

The more classic akali-mid-westrice build is completely unaffected through this and is still good. But it depends on you actually doing well, which is fine and dandy. So in the end Akali never needed a nerf, but the synergy with GB just was too forgiving and too hard to stop.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
October 19 2011 13:02 GMT
#170
On October 19 2011 22:01 Flicky wrote:
Any spooky quints in available on US? I want to save some IP.


None yet
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 19 2011 13:14 GMT
#171
On October 19 2011 21:21 Truez wrote:
550 range, wow Graves is the first champ that I was not disappointed with after buying since Nocturne.


Hope you don't compare Graves to release - pre nerf noc .....
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
October 19 2011 13:25 GMT
#172
Graves looks strong but not vayne strong. I feel like Vayne only got through balance testing because phreak rushed sheen on her
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 13:28:49
October 19 2011 13:25 GMT
#173
Is anyone else fed up with fucking large front-cone attack skills?Every time I play against a Talon/Raven/and now Graves I start running and it seems like I could get away easy and than they just strafe me with the edge of a god damn karma Q and I drop-__-.Please no more...
Cackle™
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 13:49:24
October 19 2011 13:44 GMT
#174
Is it just me or does Jailbreak Graves look a lot like Cable?

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iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 19 2011 13:50 GMT
#175
Whaaaat? I'm usually fine going to work on patch day knowing that servers will be down half the day anyway, why are they back up? T.T

Anyone play the new Skarner yet?
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2011 14:08 GMT
#176
Riot soon™ huehue.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
October 19 2011 14:14 GMT
#177
yay a patch that 100% doesnt affect any character i play at all!

i something it!

graves looks kinda cool i guess
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 19 2011 14:18 GMT
#178
On October 19 2011 22:25 TheKefka wrote:
Is anyone else fed up with fucking large front-cone attack skills?Every time I play against a Talon/Raven/and now Graves I start running and it seems like I could get away easy and than they just strafe me with the edge of a god damn karma Q and I drop-__-.Please no more...


Graves has a nice risk/reward with his Q. Getting closer to someone makes you a) take more damage and b) be a lot more liable to miss but if you hit, does like 70% more damage
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 14:23:18
October 19 2011 14:22 GMT
#179
The idea behind Graves Q and passive works really well together. What a manly ranged DPS. Will definitely be a new feelings for AD players (compared to the current flavor of Kog and Cait)

Conceptually, gud jorb Riot.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 19 2011 14:28 GMT
#180
On October 19 2011 23:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
The idea behind Graves Q and passive works really well together. What a manly ranged DPS. Will definitely be a new feelings for AD players (compared to the current flavor of Kog and Cait)

Conceptually, gud jorb Riot.


WELL TO BE FAIR, Grave's Q is a spell from a LONG time ago. Ashe's volley used to be the same thing (then they realized wow that is dumb)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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