[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 10

On October 19 2011 23:14 SaetZero wrote:
yay a patch that 100% doesnt affect any character i play at all!

i something it!

graves looks kinda cool i guess

On October 19 2011 23:28 Phrost wrote:


WELL TO BE FAIR, Grave's Q is a spell from a LONG time ago. Ashe's volley used to be the same thing (then they realized wow that is dumb)

On October 19 2011 23:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
The idea behind Graves Q and passive works really well together. What a manly ranged DPS. Will definitely be a new feelings for AD players (compared to the current flavor of Kog and Cait)

Conceptually, gud jorb Riot.

On October 19 2011 23:37 Cytokinesis wrote:
Graves is a pretty cool and eh doesn't afraid of anything, but I don't think he can stand up to cait or vayne. Smoke bomb is really fucking good and cool but the rest of his abilities are pretty lackluster. His dash is alright because he can juke over cliffs and jungles but his q and ultimate are underwhelming as an ad.

On October 19 2011 23:37 Cytokinesis wrote:
Graves is a pretty cool and eh doesn't afraid of anything, but I don't think he can stand up to cait or vayne. Smoke bomb is really fucking good and cool but the rest of his abilities are pretty lackluster. His dash is alright because he can juke over cliffs and jungles but his q and ultimate are underwhelming as an ad.

On October 19 2011 23:43 Zato-1 wrote:

You bring a good point. Can his dash go across terrain? I assumed that it couldn't, being more like Vayne's tumble in that regard.

On October 19 2011 23:43 Cixah wrote:


He's currently manhandling Chaox's Caitlyn on stream. The guy has really high base movement (highest or 2nd highest among AD carries) and has alot of really strong poking abilities.

On October 19 2011 23:43 Cixah wrote:


He's currently manhandling Chaox's Caitlyn on stream. The guy has really high base movement (highest or 2nd highest among AD carries) and has alot of really strong poking abilities.

On October 20 2011 00:05 Phrost wrote:
Okay so I'm going to make a bold statement here and say Graves is one of the best supports that a ranged AD can have bottom. Before you think I'm gravely mistaken, take a look at his skill set. He's naturally tankier and has range, those two combined are never bad, ever. Second, he has one of the best skills in the game for a ranged dps and incoming jungler to abuse (smoke grenade). Now couple his mobility for blocking potentially killer skill shots and his ridiculously high base damage and stats (Q has base damage of 250@5, W is like 300@5 i think, E is 90% ASP, and R is 500 damage initial hit, 400 damage behind @ 3) makes him a real force to be reckoned with later game.

He also synergies well with cc that most ranged dps bring to the table. Imagine the amount of rage people will experience from exiting a smoke grenade into a yordle trap that they cant see, or trying to deal with Kog's long range + slow and Graves chasing behind them with EQ.


Also I'm pretty sure the feeling I get from playing Graves is a lot like the troll berserker in dota, except hes not stupid broken in melee mode, and is halfway decent after lvl 6 in ranged

On October 20 2011 00:08 Two_DoWn wrote:

So why run dual ad and not just run Graves with a non healer support like blitz or leona?

On October 20 2011 00:05 Phrost wrote:
Okay so I'm going to make a bold statement here and say Graves is one of the best supports that a ranged AD can have bottom. Before you think I'm gravely mistaken, take a look at his skill set. He's naturally tankier and has range, those two combined are never bad, ever. Second, he has one of the best skills in the game for a ranged dps and incoming jungler to abuse (smoke grenade). Now couple his mobility for blocking potentially killer skill shots and his ridiculously high base damage and stats (Q has base damage of 250@5, W is like 300@5 i think, E is 90% ASP, and R is 500 damage initial hit, 400 damage behind @ 3) makes him a real force to be reckoned with later game.

He also synergies well with cc that most ranged dps bring to the table. Imagine the amount of rage people will experience from exiting a smoke grenade into a yordle trap that they cant see, or trying to deal with Kog's long range + slow and Graves chasing behind them with EQ.


Also I'm pretty sure the feeling I get from playing Graves is a lot like the troll berserker in dota, except hes not stupid broken in melee mode, and is halfway decent after lvl 6 in ranged

edit:
Okay so I'm imaging Graves/Caitlin bottom and having nightmares worse than Taric/Caitlin.

I don't know how much safer traps, smoke grenade, and both having the ability to dash can be

On October 20 2011 00:05 Phrost wrote:
Okay so I'm going to make a bold statement here and say Graves is one of the best supports that a ranged AD can have bottom. Before you think I'm gravely mistaken, take a look at his skill set. He's naturally tankier and has range, those two combined are never bad, ever. Second, he has one of the best skills in the game for a ranged dps and incoming jungler to abuse (smoke grenade). Now couple his mobility for blocking potentially killer skill shots and his ridiculously high base damage and stats (Q has base damage of 250@5, W is like 300@5 i think, E is 90% ASP, and R is 500 damage initial hit, 400 damage behind @ 3) makes him a real force to be reckoned with later game.

He also synergies well with cc that most ranged dps bring to the table. Imagine the amount of rage people will experience from exiting a smoke grenade into a yordle trap that they cant see, or trying to deal with Kog's long range + slow and Graves chasing behind them with EQ.


Also I'm pretty sure the feeling I get from playing Graves is a lot like the troll berserker in dota, except hes not stupid broken in melee mode, and is halfway decent after lvl 6 in ranged

edit:
Okay so I'm imaging Graves/Caitlin bottom and having nightmares worse than Taric/Caitlin.

I don't know how much safer traps, smoke grenade, and both having the ability to dash can be