[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 29

On October 21 2011 02:25 Mogwai wrote:

Pantheon just feels like a bad version of Jarman and Gangplank to me these days.

Poor guy

On October 21 2011 02:35 Zdrastochye wrote:


He's still right about Pantheon winning that matchup 100% of the time. Nasus can't keep up with that spear poke. And you can negate him being aggressive with his W with your W.

On October 21 2011 02:50 Mogwai wrote:

I disagree, Pantheon will run oom and only end up a little ahead of a Nasus with a good anti-physical spec. And then nasus gets a glacial shroud and it's frown town for Pantheon. Also, for Pantheon to even deny Nasus, he has to play far forward which makes him a stupid easy target for early jungle ganks. I mean, yea, I've stomped on plenty of Nasuses with Pantheon, but they show up to lane with regrowth pendant and 25 armor, so I don't really weigh that experience for much when if I were playing the matchup, I'd show up with something like 60 armor level 1 and 5 hp pots.

On October 21 2011 02:55 gtrsrs wrote:


ruken and i tested this matchup some 20 times in a row and i (pantheon) won 19 times with the one time i lost being to poor management of creep aggro in a level2 fight. ruken (nasus) tried every opening you can think of and nasus just doesn't stand a chance.

here's how you win the matchup
>see if their jungler is a level2 ganker
-if yes, just stand back cautiously until his window for ganking versus wasting time has passed or you see him in another lane. even if it means giving up some CS early. early ganker is pantheon's bane
-if no, push lane slightly, wait for nasus to go for a last hit, walk up and auto Q auto
>how does he react? does he keep going for creeps? take your E at level 2, as soon as you get a chance, E auto Q auto ignite auto Q for the win
>does he back off? take your stun and push the lane hard for level 4, keeping him away from creeps
>level 4 auto Q tank tower hit stun auto Q ignite auto Q

you win
every time

On October 21 2011 03:03 Brees wrote:
what constitutes as winning though? pantheon is trash past laning while nasus is a monster in teamfights.

On October 21 2011 03:13 Alaric wrote:
Graves' so retarded... those base stats, and his ability to harass with Q, that's just stupid. And that one didn't even use smokescreen in lane.

On October 21 2011 03:03 Brees wrote:
what constitutes as winning though? pantheon is trash past laning while nasus is a monster in teamfights.

On October 21 2011 03:24 AwayFromLife wrote:

He basically gets free harass on anyone except maybe Cait. Q gets full harass through creeps and clears, W screws up auto attack champs (read: every AD bot except maybe Ez), E is basically a swiss army knife that lets you escape and harass with ease. It also helps reset it's own CD with the ASpd buff. And Ult harasses really damn well, and bursts like no one's business.

On October 21 2011 03:30 Mogwai wrote:
counting on a towerdive kill, even with Pantheon, is pretty silly if you ask me.

On October 21 2011 03:34 TheYango wrote:
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On October 21 2011 03:32 Mogwai wrote:
T_D so mean to me and then he wonders why I don't duo queue with him, lol.