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[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 31

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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 20 2011 19:33 GMT
#601
late for the skarner discussion, but i wanted to input that i feel your budget for building offensive items is about 2k gold going into the midgame. If you skip out on tankiness you are gonna start feeling it pretty badly at 3k.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 20 2011 19:49 GMT
#602
I dunno about lane skarn, but out of the jungle I liked wriggles/triforce(sheen first, phage last)/GA... but this was a game with a Kennen mid and Garen top so blue buff was mine forevers if I wanted it(and I did). I could see why that wouldn't be a possible build with Kass/Zil/Aniv/etc mid wanting every blue after the 1st(even giving up the second means you probably need some kind of +mana or mp5 early, but sheen still gives that).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
October 20 2011 19:54 GMT
#603
I'm having a really hard time against Graves. He has a ton of burst, great damage, but thanks to his passive he doesn't die in 2 seconds when focused in team fights. Plus, he can just blind and slow you and then dash away. I wish I had enough IP to buy him, but Riot can't release a fun new hero for less than 6k IP T_T
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
October 20 2011 20:07 GMT
#604
On October 21 2011 01:09 Kyhron wrote:
OT, but is twitch the new FOTM or is it just cuz hes 3150 and everyones buying him?


Possibly. I bought him. Then after on night I was like... ugh, this kind of works, but I'm not having any fun. Back to the drawing board.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 20 2011 20:12 GMT
#605
On October 21 2011 04:54 mcimba42 wrote:
I'm having a really hard time against Graves. He has a ton of burst, great damage, but thanks to his passive he doesn't die in 2 seconds when focused in team fights. Plus, he can just blind and slow you and then dash away. I wish I had enough IP to buy him, but Riot can't release a fun new hero for less than 6k IP T_T


Graves is probably going to do pretty well for a few days because people aren't used to him and can't find good counters to him. Just try and play it out the best you can. Avoid his Qs and play a champion that can safely harass him (Kog, Cait, Ez).
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 20 2011 20:13 GMT
#606
On October 21 2011 04:27 cascades wrote:
Cheers to Rhavanna boss.

Also this thread no have chaox/benkeh drama. I am dissapoint in this lack of community news update.

I demand more details. Link me to the dramaz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 20 2011 20:26 GMT
#607
On October 21 2011 05:12 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 04:54 mcimba42 wrote:
I'm having a really hard time against Graves. He has a ton of burst, great damage, but thanks to his passive he doesn't die in 2 seconds when focused in team fights. Plus, he can just blind and slow you and then dash away. I wish I had enough IP to buy him, but Riot can't release a fun new hero for less than 6k IP T_T


Graves is probably going to do pretty well for a few days because people aren't used to him and can't find good counters to him. Just try and play it out the best you can. Avoid his Qs and play a champion that can safely harass him (Kog, Cait, Ez).

Kog gets stomped by graves in lane, he can just E Q in your face for a loooooot of damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 20 2011 20:26 GMT
#608
On October 21 2011 05:13 mrgerry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 04:27 cascades wrote:
Cheers to Rhavanna boss.

Also this thread no have chaox/benkeh drama. I am dissapoint in this lack of community news update.

I demand more details. Link me to the dramaz


Just her making out with other guys in front of Chaox when he has a crush on her. Then Chaox gets drunk and does crazy shit on his stream.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/lh5ir/i_was_watching_chaox_stream_hes_hilarious_when_he/
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 20 2011 20:32 GMT
#609
Chaox got crushed.

Good Guy Regi comes in though.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 20 2011 20:35 GMT
#610
Wooooot played vs HSgg twice today and also vs ele and jiji!

My viewers tripled during the HS games too hehehe
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 20 2011 20:39 GMT
#611
K after reading the drama I'm on Becca's side. She's in it for the ESPORTS I can't say anything bad about that.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 20 2011 20:42 GMT
#612
im on neither side cuz they asians. Blacks and whites only, no orientals. Shadynasty's.
Brees on in
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 20 2011 20:57 GMT
#613
Mah skarner thoughts:
Rageblade or Nashors (not sure which is better yet, leaning towards Rageblade)
always Merc treads

CDR kinda overrated on Skarner.
It's like building more bloodthirsters on Yi. Sure, you win if you aren't cced but you do that anyways.
I mean you can get plenty of CDR from tank items but you need tank items.
Rageblade adds much more damage to all your spells and attacks. Nashors mana regen is nice though.
Basically you're going to get one ult per teamfight, 2-3 Ws per teamfight, and 2-3 Es per teamfight no matter how much cdr/aspd you build. You're gonna mash Q a lot per teamfight but AP and AD add plenty of Q damage. More Ws and Es is not as good as more tank because you can get cced before you cast.
for hilarity late game pick up Archangels and Manamune, infinimana 300 AD 300 AP
Skarner solo pushes and farms amazingly so Mogs not bad either
Skarner is one of those build wtf you want guys.

Kinda weak in teamfights. Now actually a strong assassin though. Great ganks on anyone past river.

Cleanse > Flash/Ghost possibly.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
October 20 2011 21:18 GMT
#614
On October 21 2011 05:26 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 05:13 mrgerry wrote:
On October 21 2011 04:27 cascades wrote:
Cheers to Rhavanna boss.

Also this thread no have chaox/benkeh drama. I am dissapoint in this lack of community news update.

I demand more details. Link me to the dramaz


Just her making out with other guys in front of Chaox when he has a crush on her. Then Chaox gets drunk and does crazy shit on his stream.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/lh5ir/i_was_watching_chaox_stream_hes_hilarious_when_he/


I just read the thread. All kinds of juicy gossip. Seems this girl left with HSGG and they did a bit more than kiss. Apparent;y HSGG needs a new gf now, as the previous one left him after hearing about the incident.

Its like Jersey Shore meets League of Legends. This is great.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 20 2011 21:29 GMT
#615
I had no problems against a Graves with Nasus but then again my Q was hardcore farmed ^^. Wither and 2 hit him with Q huehuehue.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
October 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#616
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Am I doing it wrong?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#617
Yes, tiamat stackign is only for trist and sivir.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 20 2011 21:36 GMT
#618
Needs more yellow and red colors.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
October 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#619
On October 21 2011 06:30 57 Corvette wrote:
[image loading]
Am I doing it wrong?

You accidentally bought 3 useless items instead of 3 more tiamats
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 20 2011 21:40 GMT
#620
Lolllllllll drama
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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