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On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc.
I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release. 
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On November 01 2011 09:23 beefhamburger wrote:
Finally a passive that increases an ability's cooldown instead of decreasing it. I felt like lots of passives/skills were becoming similar where they always helped you instead of limiting an otherwise strong ability.
No? Her autos decrease cooldown on her Q and increase the duration of W's effect. Which sounds like it would make her pretty good at chasing since W grants movespeed for 3 seconds (auto attacking enough can turn it into 6 seconds).
On November 01 2011 09:23 beefhamburger wrote:
She does seem fun to from what I'm reading so far.
Triforce seems to be a core item for her. Wit's End might be good with her q as well as her e for good armor and MR shredding. Rageblade too possibly.
Does anyone know if her human abilities proc while in dragon form? Like will she get the movement speed buff when using burnout as a dragon?
I think her human form looks good but her dragon form looks more like a bat.....
I wanna know what her scaling is first. She won't benefit from the mana of sheen and if she doesn't have much or very good AP scaling I could see myself skipping Triforce. I think Wit's End is pretty good on most melee champs so that might be viable.
Definitely gonna be tanky DPS from the sounds of it and yeah her dragon form looks dumb in game. I was hoping it'd be this super badass dragon not a lizard with wings.
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obviously they make her dragon form shitty so people dump rp on a skin that gives me OMGAMAZING dragon graphics
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For some reason I was expecting Shyvana to be a little girl that transforms into a dragon. Very certain this was because I played Fire Emblem Sacred Stones and Myrrh does the same thing.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Myrrh
I can see why people have a problem with Shyvana's art, but it seems ok. It's a dragon, doesn't need to Chogath sized to be one.
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On November 01 2011 06:54 MoonBear wrote:
I won't go into too much detail regarding what is acceptable and not acceptable regarding the Tribunal. However, so long as you weren't intentionally trying to ruin someone's game and was trying, it generally shows and you should not be penalised by the community for it. There is Riot audits that get carried out to ensure quality so you should never be banned/suspended for wrongful reporting. You might get a warning, but generally that's more of a "Hey, try to follow the Summoner's Code a bit better, thanks!" sort of thing rather than an actual punishment.
What I don't get is...
imho I'm being an asshole sometimes, I call people names, I swear, I QQ. Still no single warning.
Wtf are people doing to get banned?
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On November 01 2011 09:27 dismiss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc. I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release.
From a business perspective it's better (for Riot) to have new champions accidentally OP than UP.
If OP at release - high champion/skin sales + non-paying customers unhappy
If UP at release - Low champion/skin sales + paying customers unhappy
Obviously the trick is to release strong-ish champions that don't need to be toned down immediately. MF/Talon were pretty good examples of this, Xerath may be one of the best.
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If a champ appears OP at release, they're off the charts broken.
If a champ appears balanced at release, they're overpowered.
If a champ appears underpowered at release, they're probably balanced.
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On November 01 2011 09:51 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 09:27 dismiss wrote:On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc. I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release. From a business perspective it's better (for Riot) to have new champions accidentally OP than UP. If OP at release - high champion/skin sales + non-paying customers unhappy If UP at release - Low champion/skin sales + paying customers unhappy Obviously the trick is to release strong-ish champions that don't need to be toned down immediately. MF/Talon were pretty good examples of this, Xerath may be one of the best.
what
mf was literally nerfed FOUR patches in a row after she was released
talon is still crazy
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On November 01 2011 09:49 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 06:54 MoonBear wrote:
I won't go into too much detail regarding what is acceptable and not acceptable regarding the Tribunal. However, so long as you weren't intentionally trying to ruin someone's game and was trying, it generally shows and you should not be penalised by the community for it. There is Riot audits that get carried out to ensure quality so you should never be banned/suspended for wrongful reporting. You might get a warning, but generally that's more of a "Hey, try to follow the Summoner's Code a bit better, thanks!" sort of thing rather than an actual punishment. What I don't get is... imho I'm being an asshole sometimes, I call people names, I swear, I QQ. Still no single warning. Wtf are people doing to get banned?
same experience
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On November 01 2011 09:51 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 09:27 dismiss wrote:On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc. I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release. From a business perspective it's better (for Riot) to have new champions accidentally OP than UP. If OP at release - high champion/skin sales + non-paying customers unhappy If UP at release - Low champion/skin sales + paying customers unhappy Obviously the trick is to release strong-ish champions that don't need to be toned down immediately. MF/Talon were pretty good examples of this, Xerath may be one of the best.
This is exactly why I dislike how quickly Riot releases new champs. I understand the need to make money but it isn't good for the game to have a new super powerful champion every two weeks. And if that champion isn't really strong they'll be buffed in future patches to make them strong.
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On November 01 2011 10:03 bosiddon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 09:51 Flakes wrote:On November 01 2011 09:27 dismiss wrote:On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc. I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release. From a business perspective it's better (for Riot) to have new champions accidentally OP than UP. If OP at release - high champion/skin sales + non-paying customers unhappy If UP at release - Low champion/skin sales + paying customers unhappy Obviously the trick is to release strong-ish champions that don't need to be toned down immediately. MF/Talon were pretty good examples of this, Xerath may be one of the best. what mf was literally nerfed FOUR patches in a row after she was released talon is still crazy
I didn't want to start any OP arguments so I went with "strong-ish" instead. Hard to tell anyway since it's only concrete in retrospect, and until then it's all popular opinion
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It is seriously silly for people to be talking about champ viability when no one has seen the numbers yet, let alone played the champ.
What is it that generally moves a champ into OP/UPness when patches come out? Completely changed mechanics or changes to numbers? Was Rumble secret OP because no one realized that flamespitter was just an OP ability idea or because it did retarded amounts of damage at level 1? Was Orianna OP because her entire skillset is BS design or was it just because her Q range was too high?
QED Anything is OP or UP with the right number attached to it, hardly matters what the skill is.
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dragon form is so dissapointing i dont even want to play her
tbh I'd rather play the old lux than that dragon thing
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lEs0G.jpg)
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I don't understand how people are so retarded.
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On November 01 2011 10:03 bosiddon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 09:51 Flakes wrote:On November 01 2011 09:27 dismiss wrote:On November 01 2011 08:52 MoonBear wrote:
I sense awesome tanky dps incoming, who works great with Triforce.
For the record, Shyvana was designed by Coronarch, who also made Akali, Udyr, Poppy, Corki, Karma, Yorick, Lee Sin and Brand. FotM OP inc. I sense a trend that no matter who developed a champ it's going to be OP on release. From a business perspective it's better (for Riot) to have new champions accidentally OP than UP. If OP at release - high champion/skin sales + non-paying customers unhappy If UP at release - Low champion/skin sales + paying customers unhappy Obviously the trick is to release strong-ish champions that don't need to be toned down immediately. MF/Talon were pretty good examples of this, Xerath may be one of the best. what mf was literally nerfed FOUR patches in a row after she was released talon is still crazy
One of those was a global ad carry nerf though so you can't really blanket statement it like that. Ad carries were drastically changed during that patch ^_^
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We are still investigating the situation – as you know, this is fairly complex and there are a lot of moving parts, and we want to make sure we have the full story before commenting further. We have requested the WCG clarify the situation and their rules further, and we’ll continue to keep you posted.
So wait, even after all of this Riot and WCG still aren't on the same page and still don't fully understand each other? I am amazed.
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At the beginning of all his drama before the matches were played, I came across a post saying they only doing this because WCG trying to get one of their sponsor's teams into their tournament. Which at first I dismissed as funny but as a means of putting logic behind this whole fiasco I'm just going to say it's true because I refuse to believe that people can be this retarded.
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Wasn't there a post from Riot a couple of days ago saying that this was a JOINT decision? What's with them trying to distance themselves now and blame it all on WCG.
And where the hell did that post go?
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