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On October 29 2011 00:02 Mogwai wrote:
ewww @ dshield. dshield #1 worst starting item in the game imo.
also, 0/21/9 makes more sense imo. You gotta go balls deep with Irelia in every single teamfight. It's really important that you're beefy as hell.
I usually open armor + 5 pots to go against strong solo top bruisers
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On October 29 2011 00:02 Mogwai wrote:
ewww @ dshield. dshield #1 worst starting item in the game imo.
also, 0/21/9 makes more sense imo. You gotta go balls deep with Irelia in every single teamfight. It's really important that you're beefy as hell.
shield + hp regen quints = never leave lane for anything
I prefer it over cloth and pots when cloth armor isn't a part of my standard build on someone like kat/kass
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So our top and mid left by 5 or 6 min mark, this is the result:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W3nmW.jpg)
We actually aced them around 30 mins in and got baron but then we all overextended and died around 36 min 
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On October 29 2011 00:10 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:02 Mogwai wrote:
ewww @ dshield. dshield #1 worst starting item in the game imo.
also, 0/21/9 makes more sense imo. You gotta go balls deep with Irelia in every single teamfight. It's really important that you're beefy as hell. shield + hp regen quints = never leave lane for anything
Regrowth + pot > Shield under nearly all realistic circumstances, and doesn't waste gold on a dead end item that sells for 50% rather than 70%.
Cloth + 5 hp pots > Shield unless you stay in lane for 550 seconds of regen utilization (over 9 minutes) and even then, cloth still gives more armor and builds into items that you want later.
EDIT: oh, I see, you're talking about not just irelia. Well, yea, on some casters, I've seen the hp regen quints + dshield opening, but I still think that the strategy is better with regrowth + pot -> philo.
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I think there is too much good in that utility tree to pass up the movement speed and presence of the master. And that Doran's shield has given me enough staying power to pick up a full triforce on the first trip back. I just play really passively in lane and last hit under the tower.
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On October 29 2011 00:19 Sabin010 wrote:
I think there is too much good in that utility tree to pass up the movement speed and presence of the master. And that Doran's shield has given me enough staying power to pick up a full triforce on the first trip back. I just play really passively in lane and last hit under the tower.
k, well, that might work for you. but in real games, you don't sit in lane with a dshield until you have 4K banked and then just back for a triforce. good players will crush you for this type of nonsense.
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On October 29 2011 00:19 Sabin010 wrote:
I think there is too much good in that utility tree to pass up the movement speed and presence of the master. And that Doran's shield has given me enough staying power to pick up a full triforce on the first trip back. I just play really passively in lane and last hit under the tower.
What? That would mean that if your opponent is backing at reasonable times, they should be like 2k-3k gold ahead of you in terms of items they have on them for a significant period of time, even if you guys went on even farm for a while.
I don't care who you're playing or what item you're starting--if your lane opponent can't definitively win lane with a 3k gold advantage, then you're playing absolutely terrible opponents.
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You're irelia bro. They can't dive you or you're going to pop your w and stun them under the tower while auto attacking with 75 true damage, and ulting them and using the q to reset the auto attack.
Don't get me wrong. It's only like two games I've got a triforce on the first trip back, but I attribute it to the HP regen from runes and the shield. Usually you are leaving earlier for the two gold per 5's. Or just picking up a sheen and phage first before completing the triforce.
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On October 29 2011 00:06 Mogwai wrote:
Yea, I run my flat MR Quints + Glyphs page vs. mages with regrowth most of the time, but sometimes I liek the boots if it's like, vs. cho or some asshole like that who's always trying to skillshot me.
Hahah I'm more of an asshole, I run MR red blue quints with dodge seals, and if I need armor I'll just open Cloth+5 and boom. End up with Tabi + Miracle anyways but with hilarious MR.
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lol, ootah, u so carzy. AS Marks are so stupid on Irelia, but you still go for dat 9 MRes, lololol.
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I thought everyone went armour pen reds? Q and R both physical and it's an easy way to get arpen without having to buy stupid items. (Ghostblade, LW, SOTD)
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Always live, never die. Also I favor the E>Q>W burst against casters so that factors into that difference too, lolol.
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On October 29 2011 00:24 Sabin010 wrote:
You're irelia bro. They can't dive you or you're going to pop your w and stun them under the tower while auto attacking with 75 true damage, and ulting them and using the q to reset the auto attack.
This, except you'll die like 5times in that lane as irelia if all you have is a dshield.
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On October 29 2011 00:24 Sabin010 wrote:
You're irelia bro. They can't dive you or you're going to pop your w and stun them under the tower while auto attacking with 75 true damage, and ulting them and using the q to reset the auto attack.
You don't seem to be respecting how much 3k gold banked is.
An AP caster that has 3DRing Boots NLR when you have just your DShield is going to be capable of killing you.
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Actually wickd plays a lot like that. Farm up with just dorans shield and buy like wits end/atmas + boots on first back and just play super passive until you back so it's not easy to gank you. I'm not sure I like it though. Often he goes back earlier for stuff like a sheen or something, but the trend is only back for your first significant item, since without gold items theres no motivation to go back a lot to finish them early.
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Today I learned that Irelia's R does physical damage
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On October 29 2011 00:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
Today I learned that Irelia's R does physical damage
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Two days ago or so I discovered that Trundle's W gives him CC reduc.
*brofists
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On October 29 2011 00:27 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:24 Sabin010 wrote:
You're irelia bro. They can't dive you or you're going to pop your w and stun them under the tower while auto attacking with 75 true damage, and ulting them and using the q to reset the auto attack. This, except you'll die like 5times in that lane as irelia if all you have is a dshield.
If you die once you're going to be buying items. Unless you're really really mad.
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On October 29 2011 00:27 Slayer91 wrote:
I thought everyone went armour pen reds? Q and R both physical and it's an easy way to get arpen without having to buy stupid items. (Ghostblade, LW, SOTD)
I've run both and I prefer Attack Speed. I might be crazy, but I just love more true damage procs and having a smoother attack animation in lane.
Besides, ArPen scales best vs. low armor targets and when you're getting more of it. Since I'm always vs. other high armor assholes with Irelia and never buying more ArPen, in theory it doesn't make sense to me to buy it, but I guess I might be theorycrafting my way into a suboptimal spec.
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Armor reds or MR reds all the way huehuehue.
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