EPT[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 130
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On October 28 2011 13:48 iaeuy wrote: IMO CLG's teamwork is better when only one of HSGG and SV are playing ;P. Both are pretty good leaders but their playstyles are pretty different and when they play together they always end up arguing. Also in that game kass countered TSM's teamcomp really hard imo. Anivia cant do anythign vs kass and TSM had no cc at all to stop chauster. All of that and TSM had terrible buff control. They conceded both dragons, lost all but 1-2 blues, and lost all but maybe 1 of their reds. And Anivia without blue against Kassadin with blue is sadface. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On October 28 2011 13:51 Two_DoWn wrote: I think part of the problem with HS vs Saint all the time is that saint tends to call an aggressive game, and HS is one of the LEAST aggressive players in the game. So while the others will pick up their aggression and movement, HS doesnt, and it creates friction. I think that early game saint likes to focus on farming more, so when hotshot asks for ganks, he doesn't go. Then late game hotshot doesn't play aggressively enough for saint's playstyle. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
Both CV and HSGG are cocky sons of bitches but thats what makes them so good. they have always done this just being ass's to each other but they know each other so well and they win together. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
So tried two new podcasts both about Graves. Summoner's Roundtable is new only it's third episode, was enjoying it but then stopped listening when they recommended getting Archangel's on Singed... It was part of a discussion on Singed and just one person raised the problem of "How does he build mana with a tear when he has no spamming ability" they change the subject with one of them insisting it's a good item because it gives a lot of mana due to it working with Singed's passive and is better than RoA. Maybe a tear is viable, haven't crunched the numbers of when it would if ever be better than a RoA. LoLPod was better, it included discussion on Grave's balance and item builds with discussion about what pros are doing too. They also include feedback from their listeners which is nice. Only have seen one episode but it looks to be my favorite non pro LoL podcast, with a steady release schedule according to I Tunes and good content. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On October 28 2011 13:20 Koenig99 wrote: How does he transition into lategame? Is he solely used for his ulti when it's 30+ mins? He has a very weak transition out of lane. Without farm, he's pretty much a walking ult and has very little utility. He needs farm to be tanky or do any damage (and he needs both to zone out their carry), so he pretty much needs to steal farm to be effective late-game. Either the team goes for the win mid-game by snowballing on the huge level and gold advantage from the bot lane or they'll have to go for late-game with the team having the 5th player as a semi-carry/support rather than a pure support. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I was Panth Blitz bottom so he couldn't even grab anyone out of those goddamn bushes because there was always something in the way.....wards helped and we kicked their asses but my god what a retardedly annoying strat vs anyone who doesn't know how to deal with that. Oh normals.... | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 28 2011 13:51 Two_DoWn wrote: I think part of the problem with HS vs Saint all the time is that saint tends to call an aggressive game, and HS is one of the LEAST aggressive players in the game. So while the others will pick up their aggression and movement, HS doesnt, and it creates friction. Honestly, Hotshot, jiji, and Chauster are all non-aggressive players. I think saint makes good calls but he loves playing aggressive and I don't think most of CLG does. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On October 28 2011 14:28 overt wrote: Honestly, Hotshot, jiji, and Chauster are all non-aggressive players. I think saint makes good calls but he loves playing aggressive and I don't think most of CLG does. Jiji and chauster adapt though. HS doesnt want to. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On October 28 2011 14:10 BlackMagister wrote: Summoner's Roundtable is new only it's third episode, was enjoying it but then stopped listening when they recommended getting Archangel's on Singed... It was part of a discussion on Singed and just one person raised the problem of "How does he build mana with a tear when he has no spamming ability" they change the subject with one of them insisting it's a good item because it gives a lot of mana due to it working with Singed's passive and is better than RoA. Maybe a tear is viable, haven't crunched the numbers of when it would if ever be better than a RoA. loooooooooooooooooooooooool. You should probably stop listening to that podcast. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
So I'm having a converstaion with my buddy as I hit que not thinking it would be instant and long story short I random Kass and have my ad runes. Not know this, I get into my game and build standard. Now normally I'm like this is fuckign over, because it normally is, but I decide to just crank it hard. Now either the enemy was bad or I'm just really good with kass, but he face rolls the SHIT outta kids at 1300 elo. Like max q and e never put a point in w, get level 6, r qe dead morg. Repeat this like 10 times and go legendary. Is he really that dumb strong? Or did I just get lucky? | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 28 2011 15:53 Cixah wrote: So I'll preface this by saying, I have never played kass ever and hes free this week. So I'm having a converstaion with my buddy as I hit que not thinking it would be instant and long story short I random Kass and have my ad runes. Not know this, I get into my game and build standard. Now normally I'm like this is fuckign over, because it normally is, but I decide to just crank it hard. Now either the enemy was bad or I'm just really good with kass, but he face rolls the SHIT outta kids at 1300 elo. Like max q and e never put a point in w, get level 6, r qe dead morg. Repeat this like 10 times and go legendary. Is he really that dumb strong? Or did I just get lucky? You got lucky. Morg should rape kass np. E blocks silence, W pushes lane and tower takes all Kass's farm, at low levels you can also harass with your auto-attacks whenever Kass tries to last hit. Actually, a lot of champs rape kass. I'd argue that past a certain skill level, it becomes harder to rape as Kass than it is to rape Kass. Until Kassadin's Q is sufficiently high level, he will lose harass trades to essentially any ranged champion because when he can't retaliate to auto-attack harass at all. Once he gets like lvl 5, his Q hits hard enough so that he can out-harass non-AD carry ranged champs. Kassadin just rolls face against noobs because he snowballs pretty well. If he gets fed/farmed, he can be really hard to noobs to deal with because they won't know how to deal with a Kass that's riftwalking in, QE their squishy, rifting out with like no damage taken 'cause no one knows how to cc and focus down the Kass. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 28 2011 16:17 Ryuu314 wrote: You got lucky. Morg should rape kass np. E blocks silence, W pushes lane and tower takes all Kass's farm, at low levels you can also harass with your auto-attacks whenever Kass tries to last hit. Actually, a lot of champs rape kass. I'd argue that past a certain skill level, it becomes harder to rape as Kass than it is to rape Kass. Until Kassadin's Q is sufficiently high level, he will lose harass trades to essentially any ranged champion because when he can't retaliate to auto-attack harass at all. Once he gets like lvl 5, his Q hits hard enough so that he can out-harass non-AD carry ranged champs. Kassadin just rolls face against noobs because he snowballs pretty well. If he gets fed/farmed, he can be really hard to noobs to deal with because they won't know how to deal with a Kass that's riftwalking in, QE their squishy, rifting out with like no damage taken 'cause no one knows how to cc and focus down the Kass. Yeah honestly Morgana is one of the few AP champs that Kass can't just walk all over. I always recommend taking at least one point in W early though...not only is the sustain amazing even with a few last hits/autoattacks on champions, but once you get even a blasting wand the W auto becomes part of his combo...it honestly really helps with his already really nice damage. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
Also if you play in normal, there seem to be less AP there and this blows. He probably works better in ranked where they mix it. | ||
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
12. Who is your least favorite player in solo queue? Gingerbrown and TL ScY. HANDS DOWN. http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/question-answer/4009-q-a-lapaka am i right to assume TL ScY is someone from one of the TL teams? | ||
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rob.au
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Grohnn
15 Posts
Sorry bout quoting this from 1 page behind but, Riku i kinda love you, thanks | ||
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