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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#1401
Hell yea. I always, always tell people to ban annie because at my low elo most people just flat out do not know how to handle her lol bear stun burst and she wrecks. Of course at low elo too you get people who suck as her just taking her cause she wasn't banned but I always err on the side of caution because I've seen too many games where I say to ban her and they don't and an enemy annie facerolls everyone.
Never Knows Best.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 10 2011 23:24 GMT
#1402
On October 11 2011 07:11 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 07:03 Seuss wrote:
On October 11 2011 06:45 BlackMagister wrote:
I'm kind of curious how strong a team without a jungler is compared another team that does have one with both teams being about the same skill level. I know this is mostly non ranked match experiences, but it seems like having two at top being able to zone out the lone person at top is still beneficial even if they have to share cs and exp. Of course the jungling is team is stronger I'm just wondering how close it is. You could also still possibly pull someone off to get buffs, but not worry about the small creeps.

Although yes I really am just wondering because of my non ranked games where having a jungler can be a bad thing if they're too slow or suck.


When everybody sucks jungling vs no jungler is 50/50. When your jungler is half-decent or playing an op early ganker it's a massacre in favor of the jungling team. No idea what happens if both teams are full of elite players because AFAIK it's never been done in a serious match.

The biggest problem I see is that even when it's obvious that the enemy team doesn't have a jungler, the solo top guy usually (at least at my level) doesn't take a champ that has the sustainability to go against 2 champs for short periods of time. But from my limited experiences, it seems even in such a case, if you do a short jungle run to top with a fast jungler you can get to the top lane with a level advantage against the enemy top double lane (with udyr I've done this going both wolfs -> wraiths -> golems and the other way around with tiger). Then you can just stay laning on top or if you somehow rape the top and the other guy gets all the kills and is a snowballing champ (Jax for example) then you can return to jungling and ganking the other lanes.


Inexperienced players have no idea how to play with junglers. If they don't ask 'what you are you doing?', then they push their lane, overextend, don't call for help when low or B-ing or say when there's a good ganking opportunity.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 10 2011 23:27 GMT
#1403
i guarantee the QA question isn't about whether your answer is the most meritorious one. They just want to see if you can argue a position.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 23:29 GMT
#1404
After reading earlier, I've tried hybrid Ezreal... not bad. Sheen > Gunblade > Triforce > BT/IE/LW > GA/BV/Hex/Thornmail makes for a pretty interesting build. You hit really hard and (of course) Gunblade is a pretty damn good item for damage and sustain in one.
It's your boy Guzma!
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
October 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#1405
On October 11 2011 08:06 LaNague wrote:
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On October 11 2011 06:32 esotericc wrote:
So which AP champs are most likely to dominate a team? Like for example morg is strong but in solo Q she is kind of boring since she isn't likely to ace a team unless you time a lucky ult.



good old annie still destroys solo queue by dropping tibbers on 4 people and then ae stun again after 4 secs or something.
Also, its always hilarious after a big tournament weekend to get all the enemies in your lane that are trying to be really fancy with their new hipster champion picks and then forget that annie can 1 shot them.


Well I already own annie so I think I am going to buy cass with RP and zilean with IP
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 10 2011 23:42 GMT
#1406
Zilean is a beast if you manage your abilities right. Time bomb hits like a truck in the early stages of the game, and you have a great escape. Plus, dat ult.
It's your boy Guzma!
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 00:06:26
October 11 2011 00:04 GMT
#1407
[image loading]

New Xerath art?

:p

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Not my work: See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=164162
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
October 11 2011 00:06 GMT
#1408
On October 11 2011 09:04 STS17 wrote:
[image loading]

New Xerath art?

:p

That looks more like SC2 art to me. I'm seeing an archon with a protoss logo in the background. Or maybe that's just me, I dunno
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 11 2011 00:08 GMT
#1409
On October 11 2011 09:06 Gooey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 09:04 STS17 wrote:
[image loading]

New Xerath art?

:p

That looks more like SC2 art to me. I'm seeing an archon with a protoss logo in the background. Or maybe that's just me, I dunno


Should get your eyes checked, that's obviously Xerath ^^
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 11 2011 00:14 GMT
#1410
On October 11 2011 09:08 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 09:06 Gooey wrote:
On October 11 2011 09:04 STS17 wrote:
[image loading]

New Xerath art?

:p

That looks more like SC2 art to me. I'm seeing an archon with a protoss logo in the background. Or maybe that's just me, I dunno


Should get your eyes checked, that's obviously Xerath ^^


^ lol.

So over the weekend I got back on LoL and noticed Kog'maw was free, so I'm like "hmm I haven't played him more than once or twice, but I should try him out in ranked!" and won 3 straight games.. I'm going to be sad this next week :/. What do you guys think is an AD carry similar to Kog'maw? I own every AD carry except Kog and MF.

I kinda want to learn Vayne but I'm worried that my bad positioning is gonna hurt me.
derp
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 11 2011 00:17 GMT
#1411
On October 11 2011 09:14 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 09:08 STS17 wrote:
On October 11 2011 09:06 Gooey wrote:
On October 11 2011 09:04 STS17 wrote:
[image loading]

New Xerath art?

:p

That looks more like SC2 art to me. I'm seeing an archon with a protoss logo in the background. Or maybe that's just me, I dunno


Should get your eyes checked, that's obviously Xerath ^^


^ lol.

So over the weekend I got back on LoL and noticed Kog'maw was free, so I'm like "hmm I haven't played him more than once or twice, but I should try him out in ranked!" and won 3 straight games.. I'm going to be sad this next week :/. What do you guys think is an AD carry similar to Kog'maw? I own every AD carry except Kog and MF.

I kinda want to learn Vayne but I'm worried that my bad positioning is gonna hurt me.


Caitlyn is the other really dominant lane ad. Vayne might be a good way to learn positioning.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
October 11 2011 00:24 GMT
#1412
I think the classic theory is to learn Ashe because she requires the most positioning, and hugely encourages you to learn how to kite properly. Essentially, if you can do consistently well with her, you can do very well with most other ranged ADs (with the exception of maybe corki/ez/urgot since they rely a lot more on skills as well).
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 11 2011 00:24 GMT
#1413
Master Yi has a global taunt apperently. Entire enemy team blows everything to kill me. I am the most dangerous ever or some such. Then my team comes in and sweeps them up. All in all, a good day for playing ranked I feel. Even if my kd ratio was terrible and utter horrid.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#1414
Haha, I'm pretty awful with Ashe. I tend to die a lot..

Typically I learn towards Caitlyn or Ezreal. I guess I'll try out Vayne.. in a ranked game. huehuehue
derp
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#1415
What are some good melee AD to learn that are viable in Ranked but aren't Trynd or XZ? My very low skill with melee is the one thing that's keeping me from doing Ranked and TeamLiquid is the one place I've lurked on the interwebz that a feel safe joining and asking
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 11 2011 00:31 GMT
#1416
What's XZ? o_o

Check out Udyr, Irelia, Yorick (sort of).
derp
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 11 2011 00:32 GMT
#1417
I have Udyr but usually end up building him tank 99% of the time cuz of my shitty bad elo hell of a normal rank
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
October 11 2011 00:32 GMT
#1418
On October 11 2011 09:27 Kyhron wrote:
What are some good melee AD to learn that are viable in Ranked but aren't Trynd or XZ? My very low skill with melee is the one thing that's keeping me from doing Ranked and TeamLiquid is the one place I've lurked on the interwebz that a feel safe joining and asking


Thing is, there just aren't that many champs who are pure melee AD. In most cases, they can legitimately be built and played tanky as well, which seems to be a safer way of doing them since it makes it much harder to get blown up immediately. But, if you want pure damage melees, then Pantheon and Talon are really very legitimate champs if you can learn them strong enough. If not, they can be quite brutal to play on.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#1419
I know that, but in general I have horrible luck with melee outside of jungling as Nocturne. I have garen, Udyr and Talon and can do decent as garen/talon but i just play them poorly and end up either feeding because i get caught alone or do well and get pissed off cuz of a poorly coordinated team. I love playing ranged ADs tanks and supports, but i feel like i'd be a massive liability in ranked if i have to roll and melee ad
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
October 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#1420
On October 11 2011 09:31 Jaso wrote:
What's XZ? o_o

Check out Udyr, Irelia, Yorick (sort of).


XZ= Xin Zhao
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