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Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 11 2011 01:50 GMT
#1441
In my short normals experience around 550 games or so I've gotten flammed for Cho'gath and Nasus tanking and Taric support many times while not a word said for going manamune AD Anivia. Like I said though I'll try and atleast try Ranked a few times then either say screw it and stay with normals or do it with friends or when normals piss me off.

It's kinda one of those things where I don't want to ruin the game for everyone and get flammed to the point i stop playing LoL completely.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 11 2011 01:56 GMT
#1442
ohh voyboy switched to twitch.tv (justin.tv). i like it better !
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 11 2011 01:59 GMT
#1443
On October 11 2011 10:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
ohh voyboy switched to twitch.tv (justin.tv). i like it better !

Better for watching streams but not for watching VoDs (for Australians).

You should stream LoL when you're just relaxing from SC2. I'd watch and I'm sure many more of us would too.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
October 11 2011 02:00 GMT
#1444
On October 11 2011 10:59 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 10:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
ohh voyboy switched to twitch.tv (justin.tv). i like it better !

Better for watching streams but not for watching VoDs (for Australians).

You should stream LoL when you're just relaxing from SC2. I'd watch and I'm sure many more of us would too.


Tyler does stream LoL, Albeit not often but he does.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 11 2011 02:06 GMT
#1445
On October 10 2011 16:13 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 16:10 esotericc wrote:
How is LoL esports developing while we are on the topic of the esport web site. I know the shelf life for most major titles other than Sc2 isn't huge but I am curious if anyone expects a decently large esport shelf life for LoL.


I think that LoL is more played than WoW right now. Which would make it the biggest PC game currently. A big community means more people to be interested in an eSports scene. LoL brings in a lot of viewers and is getting picked up by a ton of events. DotA2 won't have any real effect on the playerbase and I think it'll have an incredibly minor impact on the eSports scene of LoL.

Basically, I think that LoL could outlast SC2 assuming Riot keeps their shit together.

edit:
@Generalissimo
I'm sure people would be willing to help and contribute to something like that. A wiki would be better as it'd be easier to organize but I don't have much on my plate for tomorrow. I don't mind at least writing up a huge ass thread and getting told what to add or remove. At the very least it could help people when/if a wiki is made for competitive LoL.


So, how about a page like this for IPL 3? It's just a sample but I think something like this could be ok as a framework.

Sample in Liquidpedia
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
October 11 2011 02:12 GMT
#1446
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 11 2011 02:12 GMT
#1447
On October 11 2011 11:06 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 16:13 overt wrote:
On October 10 2011 16:10 esotericc wrote:
How is LoL esports developing while we are on the topic of the esport web site. I know the shelf life for most major titles other than Sc2 isn't huge but I am curious if anyone expects a decently large esport shelf life for LoL.


I think that LoL is more played than WoW right now. Which would make it the biggest PC game currently. A big community means more people to be interested in an eSports scene. LoL brings in a lot of viewers and is getting picked up by a ton of events. DotA2 won't have any real effect on the playerbase and I think it'll have an incredibly minor impact on the eSports scene of LoL.

Basically, I think that LoL could outlast SC2 assuming Riot keeps their shit together.

edit:
@Generalissimo
I'm sure people would be willing to help and contribute to something like that. A wiki would be better as it'd be easier to organize but I don't have much on my plate for tomorrow. I don't mind at least writing up a huge ass thread and getting told what to add or remove. At the very least it could help people when/if a wiki is made for competitive LoL.


So, how about a page like this for IPL 3? It's just a sample but I think something like this could be ok as a framework.

Sample in Liquidpedia


It looks nice for some base work. I'd like to see which champions were most popular (picks wise and bans wise) and you might want to include something about substitutes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
October 11 2011 02:16 GMT
#1448
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 11 2011 02:21 GMT
#1449
On October 11 2011 11:16 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?


Cry yourself to sleep as I often do as the shards of your nexus comes crashing down over your dead champion
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 11 2011 02:23 GMT
#1450
On October 11 2011 11:16 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?

He just means play one of your best champions that also has potential to carry.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
October 11 2011 02:26 GMT
#1451
On October 11 2011 11:23 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:16 57 Corvette wrote:
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?

He just means play one of your best champions that also has potential to carry.

This, also if all your games are close struggles you are at your correct elo. If you play support, no need to secure firstpick, and you probably want a duo partner who is higher rated than you
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
October 11 2011 02:28 GMT
#1452
On October 11 2011 11:16 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?

I thought you said before you played gragas ;P
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 11 2011 02:31 GMT
#1453
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
My last 14 or so games I have been last pick, no matter how many times I ask in chat for jungle or solo top they pick it anyway and i'm forced to support.

Though I have learnt that Blitzcrank support is very stronk.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
October 11 2011 02:36 GMT
#1454
On October 11 2011 11:31 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
My last 14 or so games I have been last pick, no matter how many times I ask in chat for jungle or solo top they pick it anyway and i'm forced to support.

Though I have learnt that Blitzcrank support is very stronk.

Solution: follow steps like I said and duo with someone lower than you. The lower they are, the closer to firstpick you will be (they don't need to be much lower since there's so many players in the 1100-1300's)
If you get crazy high scores and stick around postgame lobby people will friend request you.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
October 11 2011 02:41 GMT
#1455
On October 11 2011 11:31 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
My last 14 or so games I have been last pick, no matter how many times I ask in chat for jungle or solo top they pick it anyway and i'm forced to support.

Though I have learnt that Blitzcrank support is very stronk.

You can also play a very disruptive champion instead of a support in low-mid elo. Singed is the best "disruptive" champion, in my opinion. Blitzcrank, whom you already mentioned, and Cho, are other viable options. Last but not least, I'd also recommend Maokai or Gragas if you have experience playing either of them.
#TeamBuLba
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
October 11 2011 02:43 GMT
#1456
On October 11 2011 11:28 iaeuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:16 57 Corvette wrote:
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
What if I don't play any pubstomp champions?

I thought you said before you played gragas ;P

I do, but I don't duo queue and therefore don't get firstpick and can't get AP
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 11 2011 02:52 GMT
#1457
I'm in such low elo that as last pick i can always get jungle noct and carry. i was also allowed to get last pick annie. i also prefer last pick cause then I know that at least they are going to be better than my opponents, and i can assume they will do better.
Whaaaa?
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 11 2011 03:00 GMT
#1458
On October 11 2011 11:41 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:31 Skithiryx wrote:
On October 11 2011 11:12 Flakes wrote:
Working my way back up the hard way since I dicked around during my first few games, just got to 1330

Advice to anyone who really believes they are below their "real elo":
-Pick your favorite pubstomp champ (in my case Jax, other good choices: akali, talon, gp, fiddle, singed, kat, etc)
-Pubstomp in solo queue games
-Accept friend invites from lower rated players
-Duo with them to increase your chance of first pick and getting your champ
-profit+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
note: some of these were with accelerant who is not unranked and carries me from teh jungle


Worst case, your partner plays like everyone else at your level, and/or the two of you get 4th/5th pick. In the latter case you can generally secure a botlane carry if you tell your team about your duo and have your partner play support


Problem:
My last 14 or so games I have been last pick, no matter how many times I ask in chat for jungle or solo top they pick it anyway and i'm forced to support.

Though I have learnt that Blitzcrank support is very stronk.

You can also play a very disruptive champion instead of a support in low-mid elo. Singed is the best "disruptive" champion, in my opinion. Blitzcrank, whom you already mentioned, and Cho, are other viable options. Last but not least, I'd also recommend Maokai or Gragas if you have experience playing either of them.


This is generally what i do, last pick a support that people aren't used to/have never dealth with like Leona/GP/Blitz, the only problem is usually win bot lane and my duo partner normally wins top lane, our mid/jungle however go 0-6 before 15 and after that just seem to always be in horrible positions, you try and say anything and a nice lil' wall of rage comes your way.

But i still maintain my 100% with Brand and Blitzcrank so s'all good.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 03:18:03
October 11 2011 03:14 GMT
#1459
So, with max CDR LeBlanc can chain silence/root someone for 12 straight seconds if they don't have Tenacity.

0.0: Q
0.1: E
2.3: R
4.3: Q
6.5: E
10.7: QW
12.7: (Silence Ends)

You can repeat this from the beginning 2-3 seconds later.

Given that this would truly screw over many, many assassins and tanky DPS, how viable does this make support LeBlanc? Seems like some pretty ridiculous carry protection. (I'm well aware that the amount of peel is greatly reduced by merc treads, but it's still pretty huge).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 11 2011 03:17 GMT
#1460
On October 11 2011 12:14 Seuss wrote:
So, with max CDR LeBlanc can chain silence/root someone for 12 straight seconds if they don't have Tenacity.

0.0: Q
0.1: E
2.3: R
4.3: Q
6.5: E
10.7: QW
12.7: (Silence Ends)

You can repeat this from the beginning 2-3 seconds later.

Given that this would truly screw over many, many assassins and tanky DPS, how viable does this make support LeBlanc? Seems like some pretty ridiculous carry protection.

This is why theorycrafting sucks. Even maknoon couldnt pull this combo off. It takes too long, relies too much on an easily interrupted skillshot, and is either overkill on a carry or wont do enough damage against a tank.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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