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[Patch 1.0.0.126: Xerath] General Discussion - Page 55

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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 09 2011 07:13 GMT
#1081
On October 09 2011 13:06 Kaneh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 13:00 ArC_man wrote:
Teemo gets +45 magic damage per attack (along with a persistent 30 magic damage per second) which means his skillset naturally goes well with magic armor shredding (Malady), more magic damage per attack (Wits end/Bloodrazor), and attack speed (all three of those items). Ashe and Cait don't do nearly as much damage per hit (they have no major +damage steroids) and they don't benefit from magic penetration/damage at all.


i hate that assumtion. wit's/BR being better on teemo/kog? why? they dont' do more damage on teemo/kog than on any other champ. (kog's armor/mr strip is not really reliable, considering you want to be max range)

It's more like wits/MBR being both extremely good items (lots of AS + lots of damage for their cost) but many champs CAN'T use them effectively without gimping their skills. Teemo and Kog don't gimp their skills (well, kog's R, but it's not exactly the be-all-end-all) by building them, and both inherently scale very well with AS anyway because they have +autoattack damage passives/steroids respectively , so the AS on-hit items work well on them.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 09 2011 07:28 GMT
#1082
lol wut

[image loading]

Astarwulf tried soooo hard to kill a Lilac. Never could. huehuehue
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 09 2011 07:31 GMT
#1083
cuz i have feast np.
GANDHISAUCE
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 09 2011 07:51 GMT
#1084
all I see is agressive feed style kass
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 08:05:33
October 09 2011 07:57 GMT
#1085
All my deaths were from noct cause he's a gay fuckwad I can't kite. (well I think 2 were from cass + noct where she got the blue buff i stole from her then i took it back :D) I FB cass and was 3 lvls higher than her in lane though.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 09 2011 08:08 GMT
#1086
On October 09 2011 09:05 Requizen wrote:
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On October 09 2011 07:54 spinesheath wrote:
Low elo: I'd guess that top lane is pretty strong there because... well, farmed tanky DPS wrecks people who are like "DONT FOCUS THE TANK" all game long.

Mid elo: Mid and bot decide the game. Top has relatively little influence on fights that could set up a dragon.

High elo: All lanes important.

At all elos: Jungler can be anything from useless to carry.


From 1200 to 1700, I carried lots of game pretty hard as Cait or Kog. Vayne, Corki, Ezreal also have strong carry qualities at all elos. Ashe and Urgot not so much as they lack in damage and/or ability to win lanes. Cait seems to fall off a bit around the 1500-1700 elo range currently as she lacks a bit during midgame with bad teams.

See, as Cait or Kog, I can win lane and be ages ahead of their AD carry, but I can't carry a team to victory when they're derping around and playing terribly. I know it's lame to blame your teammates for losses, but when you lose a game after going 3-0 in lane but your team is terrible, I can't help but rage a bit.

If you can't carry as a fed Kog at lowish elo, how could you possibly carry as anyone else? You kill people before they even get to you. You take towers easily and you are a huge Dragon/Baron threat.
Casters maybe kill 1 or 2 people with their burst, but then they still rely on their team until their cooldowns are back. Melee DPS have to go in and hope the enemies don't just ignore the baddies on your team.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 08:15:54
October 09 2011 08:15 GMT
#1087
TL, Add me ingame to practice 1v1s.

IGN: Stoppin. (Read sig)
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 08:24:17
October 09 2011 08:23 GMT
#1088
On October 09 2011 16:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
Astarwulf tried soooo hard to kill a Lilac. Never could. huehuehue

Maybe he'd have an easier time if he built AP when he wasn't dying in any fights.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 09 2011 08:26 GMT
#1089
yeah we were kidding about that after the match about buying a deathcap. Since when he went back at one point he has 4k gold lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2011 08:32 GMT
#1090
On October 09 2011 17:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
yeah we were kidding about that after the match about buying a deathcap. Since when he went back at one point he has 4k gold lol.

Even Abyssal instead of FoN. FoN's MR kinda pointless when their only magic damage was that underfarmed.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 10:55:06
October 09 2011 10:54 GMT
#1091
On October 09 2011 10:15 Vlanitak wrote:
so if there are any one in the Berkley area in California interested in using their Saturday night playing LoL, there is going to be a lock in there at a local LAN/internet cafe, for League of legends (I hear there will be free Riot Nasus and maybe Singed there). I think the place is called MegaLAN or something, it begins at 10pm I would be more specific about the place, if I actually knew the absolute location I would tell you, but can there be that many places that has a lock in with only LoL and Riot Employees?

anyways the reason I am asking is because a friend of mine is in Berkley and will probably be there (like 90% chance) so I thought I would see if anyone would go say hi to him for me xD
He'll respond to the name Sindrez or Seven, tall (185cm or 6feet 2 inches) brown haired fella. Probably has a huge grin and trying to get autographs from the riot people.

sorry for going offtopic :>

edit: this would be the place: http://www.eudemonia.net/


which saturday? Don't see it on their site. I've been there before for a sc2 lan.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 09 2011 11:31 GMT
#1092
On October 09 2011 14:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. Caseynelson ashe on voyboy's stream.


I remember that game on Hotshot's stream where he played TF and used ult to port for about 10 yards, directly into the enemy team and die instantly. Most legendary ult ever.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 12:18:54
October 09 2011 12:11 GMT
#1093
On October 09 2011 11:21 Craton wrote:
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On October 09 2011 08:43 Senx wrote:
whats the best way to deal with a sion that just perma pushes your mid lane and goes to gank every other lane the entire game?

A ward.


Surprisingly wards dont actually seem to fix the problem and stop people from dying. Especially when the sion goes early boots 5.

Im thinking playing some champ that can clear waves pretty fast to be able to follow the sion around as he goes to gank.

Gragas and kennen perhaps. Most other AP carries just dont have enough sustain or mana to keep up with sion, you just end up sitting at your tower.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 12:12:44
October 09 2011 12:12 GMT
#1094
On October 09 2011 20:31 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 14:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. Caseynelson ashe on voyboy's stream.


I remember that game on Hotshot's stream where he played TF and used ult to port for about 10 yards, directly into the enemy team and die instantly. Most legendary ult ever.

The best part about this were his epic last words:

"Watch this, watch this, I got it, I got it!"
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 09 2011 12:27 GMT
#1095
On October 09 2011 21:11 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 11:21 Craton wrote:
On October 09 2011 08:43 Senx wrote:
whats the best way to deal with a sion that just perma pushes your mid lane and goes to gank every other lane the entire game?

A ward.


Surprisingly wards dont actually seem to fix the problem and stop people from dying. Especially when the sion goes early boots 5.

Im thinking playing some champ that can clear waves pretty fast to be able to follow the sion around as he goes to gank.

Gragas and kennen perhaps. Most other AP carries just dont have enough sustain or mana to keep up with sion, you just end up sitting at your tower.


I don't see someone like Cass losing to Sion. She should be able to soften him up well for free with Q and take minimal damage when she goes in for the kill, especially if she gets the stun off on her ult. I imagine Ryze, Brand and Malz can succeed as well.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 14:21:56
October 09 2011 12:53 GMT
#1096
While I was looking thourgh the LoL forums I found this idea,

How hilarious would it be if Grave's passive was -2 gold to enemy team
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 09 2011 13:12 GMT
#1097
I've realized jungling is a bad idea in Normal games since the solo top can't be trust not to feed the enemy.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
October 09 2011 14:15 GMT
#1098
On October 09 2011 21:53 RogerX wrote:
While I was looking thourgh the LoL forums I found this idea,

How hilarious would it be if Grave's passive was -2 gold to enemy team

What part of that would be funny?
twitch.tv/cratonz
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 09 2011 14:22 GMT
#1099
On October 09 2011 23:15 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 21:53 RogerX wrote:
While I was looking thourgh the LoL forums I found this idea,

How hilarious would it be if Grave's passive was -2 gold to enemy team

What part of that would be funny?

Forgot i was going to put a slash after that, lol. TF + Grave in one team
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 09 2011 14:27 GMT
#1100
Rylai Xerath so obnoxious.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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