[Patch 1.0.0.126: Xerath] General Discussion - Page 44

On October 08 2011 04:01 Requizen wrote:
I've heard it's based on ELO, but I think that's a myth. Our first picks at times are waaay too stupid to be higher ELO than me and my queue-mates.

On October 08 2011 04:12 mordek wrote:
Any suggestions for jungler streams? I've watched saintvicious' stream but he's not always on of course and was wondering if there's some others I don't know of.

On October 08 2011 04:42 Zhiroo wrote:
Just had a 80min game... so tiring.

On October 08 2011 04:59 rwrzr wrote:


How is the possible? Did you play a 5v5 support mirror match where 9 people died every teamfight?

On October 08 2011 04:59 rwrzr wrote:


How is the possible? Did you play a 5v5 support mirror match where 9 people died every teamfight?

On October 08 2011 04:59 rwrzr wrote:


How is the possible? Did you play a 5v5 support mirror match where 9 people died every teamfight?

On October 08 2011 04:23 HPoirot wrote:


Dan Dinh streams mostly jungle play, though he recently has been spamming Xerath games.
Lapaka doesn't stream that much, but plays pretty much only junglers.

On October 08 2011 05:22 disformation wrote:
I just had a fantastic time playing some ranked games. I played dual queue with a friend, who mostly ends up as a jungler.

Game 1: We needed a support so I picked up Taric. My lane partner was a Vayne. At the end of that game, which lasted around 25mins, said Vayne had 34 cs. I also had more money on my support Taric than our Malzahar, who was mid. I did not kill any creeps in the laning phase, though I killed some creep waves near the end of the game to vent my frustration.

Lesson learnt: When in ranked only play support, if you know your lane partner and he is decent.

Game 2: Enemy first picked Singed, I counter pick Kennen, since I learned from IEM that Kennen counters Singed. Indeed I ended up 8-0-5. My friend in the jungle had similar success and together we carried the game.

Lesson learnt: Kennen be good.

Game 3: Our first pick was a Maokai top. Friend went with Warwick, I picked Annie. My opponent mid was a Katarina. After hitting level 6 I ran around and tibbered a few people, but Maokai was failing pretty hard top vs a Riven. Gank was kind of fail. Flaming started, friend went tilt, everything went downhill. In the end the enemy had a pretty beefed up Riven and Gangplank.

Lesson learnt: If ppl start bitching, just put them on ignore before you go tilt.

Game 4: Our first pick chose Tryndamere. Okay. With Exhaust and Heal. Wait, wat? He also insisted on going top against Akali and Garen. (Opponents did not have a jungler.) Do I need to mention that he decided to facecheck?

Lesson learnt: If your first pick wants to use Heal as summoner spell. Dodge.


Taking a break now. -.-
edit: I feel like the people in normal games play better.
edit2: my english sucks when I am annoyed.
edit3: I should have posted this in the QQ thread...

On October 07 2011 15:39 Lorken wrote:

I was looking at his ratios and none of them are as good as they used to be so I thought a Nashors Tooth would give me the "best of both worlds" and yes I just said that.

On October 08 2011 06:25 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Lately I've been getting counterjungled as nocturne more often, and at earlier levels I just feel so fragile.

I generally open Vamp Scepter and do wolves -> wraiths -> golems -> blue pill -> full clear.

Should I instead open Cloth + 4 or 5 and do full clear starting from blue, assuming that I'll blue pill back after the full clear without counter jungling, so when I resume jungling I'll be full hp?

Obviously there are a lot of factors about who the enemy jungler is, possible ganks, etc... but as a general rule, would that be a decent idea?

On October 08 2011 06:25 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Lately I've been getting counterjungled as nocturne more often, and at earlier levels I just feel so fragile.

I generally open Vamp Scepter and do wolves -> wraiths -> golems -> blue pill -> full clear.

Should I instead open Cloth + 4 or 5 and do full clear starting from blue, assuming that I'll blue pill back after the full clear without counter jungling, so when I resume jungling I'll be full hp?

Obviously there are a lot of factors about who the enemy jungler is, possible ganks, etc... but as a general rule, would that be a decent idea?

On October 08 2011 06:31 r.Evo wrote:


On Noc I usually go

a) Wraith -> Wolves -> Wraithjack -> Small Gols -> Wraith -> Wolves -> Wraithjack -> b, blue - (cloth+5, 1 8 21, cheers to 5hitcombo)
b) Wolves -> Wraithjack -> Goljack -> Gank -> b -> full clear (vampscepter, 21 0 9, cheers to Tommo from LP.eu)

Blue openings on Noc are horribly weak imho.

On October 08 2011 06:29 r.Evo wrote:
(Wanted to post this like 2 pages ago, but somehow didn't press "post" >_<)



As a support your gold is usually very limited, that's why some people are against the 2nd and onwards gold/5 item for example. (I usually get 2 in 90% of my games, 3 if I get fed early. =D)

An item like Nashors Tooth does exactly nothing in between all your normal "duties" (hint: Wards, Oracles, Auraitems)

If you have ever excess gold as support "oh whoops I just KS'd that dude and got like 1k gold for his bounty" I would invest into moar auraitems. If you can get like WotA+
Starks on a support your teamfights are so much more full of rape. I actually dislike Aegis nowadays for those two most of the time.

Not entirely sure if it's mathematically correct, but I feel as if they outperform it. (More dmg+more sustain means your carries live longer compared to the armor/mres bonus. If they take colletaral damage the sustain > some mres/armor imoimo.)