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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 16 2011 02:40 GMT
#2561
I see people call for reporting teammates for feeding when they are trying and just having a bad game and/or are just a poor player. Reporting a player for being bad (but legit trying) is sad and those people are assholes. Had some Ez yell about reporting their fid because he had the worst ratio on their team.
Never Knows Best.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 16 2011 02:41 GMT
#2562
Yeah thats totally typical, basically happens most games.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 03:10:53
October 16 2011 02:43 GMT
#2563
reporting you for talking about the guy who reported the guy for being bad

+ Show Spoiler +
who knows how well this sarcasm will translate over the interwebs
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 16 2011 02:44 GMT
#2564
On October 16 2011 10:57 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 09:33 Attakijing wrote:
ok ive been watching regi and dyrus duo queue together and at this point im pretty sure reginald is actually an alcoholic and thats why hes been doing so bad lately. if he feels like he needs alcohol to play well and his full time job is to play LoL...

also "i drank hard liquor for 14 hours straight yesterday"


Don't do this pls. You cannot call out and disrespect a player based on assumptions and a few comments. Alcoholism is a serious problem. If you think that this is true and you care for the guy then try to contact him or something but don't do this.

Is Regi even 21?
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
October 16 2011 02:52 GMT
#2565
Dear god, double gunblade akali is so troll

when you're 1hp, you do your combo and you're back at full trolololol
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 16 2011 02:54 GMT
#2566
On October 16 2011 11:33 Truez wrote:
Why do people run AD runes on some top laners/AD carries, such as Yorick, Vayne, Cait, etc.? When Armpen provides so much more in comparison.

AD is stronger early on in most cases unless your opponent is running a lot of armor (more than just armor yellows or starts cloth). This is obviously more true for champs with really good AD scaling like Pantheon or Riven compared to champs with worse scaling like Ashe.

Like Yango says, some champs, like Riven or Jax or Yorick, like AD more than arpen for other reasons. Jax and Riven get survivability, Yorick deals a lot of damage that arpen doesn't affect to begin with.

It also gives you a larger window for last-hitting, which can be useful.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 16 2011 02:54 GMT
#2567
On October 16 2011 11:33 Truez wrote:
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Did you just ignore the fact that of the 9 champs he listed, 5 of them are junglers, and one of them is a laner that does AD-scaling magic damage (making ArPen less useful)? While there are lots of arguments for and against AD quints in lane, most of them are moot in the jungle, because any amount of ArPen beyond 12 has very little contribution to jungle speed (only Dragon and Wraiths have more than 12 armor), making AD useful for improving clear speed/safety.

AD quints are good Tiger Udyr, Lee Sin, and Trundle in the jungle. They can also be useful for jungle WW, depending on what you're trying to optimize your setup for. Not to mention, that for his most played laner, Yorick, AD quints are superior to ArPen because W and E are magic damage and ghouls don't benefit from your ArPen.


Relax - I main junglers so I know how AD is relevant there. Maybe I should have phrased my question better.

Why do people run AD runes on some top laners/AD carries, such as Yorick, Vayne, Cait, etc.? When Armpen provides so much more in comparison.


Because armor penetration doesn't actually do "so much more" than flat ad runes. You actually do less damage before they have 31 armor because you can't penetrate armor they don't have and they make your last whisper less effective since flat penetration is calculated before percentage. It's been awhile since I've seen all the math behind it, but I remember flat ad runes being much more competitive than you're making them out to be.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 16 2011 03:08 GMT
#2568
Wait quick question. I watched some vid that I think was old and it had a player in it before the game messing around with his rune pages....he had like 8 and I only have 3. Was that a change and now its capped at 3? Because I always wanted more rune pages because if your solo queing you want as many rune set ups as possible for the different roles.
Never Knows Best.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 16 2011 03:10 GMT
#2569
On October 16 2011 11:52 tobi9999 wrote:
Dear god, double gunblade akali is so troll

when you're 1hp, you do your combo and you're back at full trolololol

Yeah, high spell vamp with Akali's burst is just so unfair. At least champs like Morg and Ryze (or Kennen even) don't get half their HP back in a 0.5 sec faceroll, while at the same time dropping 90% of your HP (oh and she can do it to everyone in your team consecutively too btw). Hell, even Jax doesn't lifesteal so hard meaning he only becomes a hyper carry terror lategame rather than Akali's batshit crazy midgame.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 16 2011 03:11 GMT
#2570
On October 16 2011 12:08 Slaughter wrote:
Wait quick question. I watched some vid that I think was old and it had a player in it before the game messing around with his rune pages....he had like 8 and I only have 3. Was that a change and now its capped at 3? Because I always wanted more rune pages because if your solo queing you want as many rune set ups as possible for the different roles.

You have to buy more rune pages in the store.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 16 2011 03:12 GMT
#2571
On October 16 2011 11:34 Offhand wrote:
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On October 16 2011 07:49 Treadmill wrote:
I've figured out the League of Legends equivalent to when your opponent in starcraft accuses you of maphacking. Its when the opposing team tells your team to report the person you were laning against for feeding. Great feeling.

(This is in the cases where you were just winning your lane super-hard, rather than when your lane opponent was actually feeding.)


So, every game you see this kind of compliment?

Got reported for cancelling Karth ult with Fiddle fear one time, felt good.

Not nearly ever game. Its happened maybe a handful of times at most. But its pretty fantastic when it does happen. "No, he's not feeding intentionally. I'm just playing too God damned good today."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
October 16 2011 03:17 GMT
#2572
It's capped at 11 pages. 6300 IP or pay RP for bundle.
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 03:24:38
October 16 2011 03:17 GMT
#2573
I'm 95% sure Ghouls use Yorick's ArPen just like Heimer's turrets benefit from his MPen.

I seem to recall testing this about 2 weeks ago where the Ghoul auto attacks will in fact use Yorick's ArPen value for their attacks.

It's important to differentiate between the Ghoul itself and the Omen which spawns it. Obviously the Omen will use his magic pen since it deals magic damage, but the ghoul uses his arpen value.

This does mean arpen > ad for quints / marks on Yorick while running Ancestral Knowledge because past the first early couple levels (of which Yorick needs no help with, so the marginal advantage of an extra ~5 damage on his E equaling an extra 2 points healed) is negligible compared to the mid-late game strength of the extra arpen.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 16 2011 03:20 GMT
#2574
my view is that if I get fed in lane it's my opponent's fault, not my being 'just that good'. If I snowball the rest of the game out I might be doing something right.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 16 2011 03:21 GMT
#2575
On October 16 2011 12:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
my view is that if I get fed in lane it's my opponent's fault, not my being 'just that good'. If I snowball the rest of the game out I might be doing something right.


But what if I really am just that good? ;D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 16 2011 03:24 GMT
#2576
Deaths in lane are the dead person being stupid. Kills in teamfights and skirmishes are actually worthy.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 16 2011 03:48 GMT
#2577
On October 16 2011 11:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:19 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Whoever said Nasus gets Q farm from killing anything including buildings is wrong. (think it was you, guitar)
You definitely do not get it form buildings, though you do get it from heimer turrets, JitB and even ghouls.


If so then it has changed since my last nasus game 2 days ago


Can someone tell me if 3 exp quints will get you to 6 from wolf wraith golem blue wolf wraith red golem? Or do you need exp quints and zil? Assume I'm running 9 utility min

Golem: 220 XP
Big Lizard: 200 XP
4x Small Lizard: 120 XP
4x Small Golems: 560 XP
2x Big Wolf: 180 XP
4x Small Wolf: 200 XP
2x Big Wraith: 240 XP
6x Small Wraith: 120 XP
Total: 1840 XP x 1.11 = 2042 XP, 458 XP shy of level 6. Not even Zilean will fill that gap.


Interesting thank you
Creeps give like 60 exp each right? Times 0.55 for split exp and it would take about 15 creepS to hit 6 off that? That's a little more thAn 2 waves?

Just wondering about powerlevelling ww to 6 earlygame. He clears fast enough that he could afford about 10 or 15 seconds of lane exp but I'm wondering if you would lose too much from the lack of ms or ad quints
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 03:55:01
October 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#2578
On October 16 2011 12:48 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:27 TheYango wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:19 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Whoever said Nasus gets Q farm from killing anything including buildings is wrong. (think it was you, guitar)
You definitely do not get it form buildings, though you do get it from heimer turrets, JitB and even ghouls.


If so then it has changed since my last nasus game 2 days ago


Can someone tell me if 3 exp quints will get you to 6 from wolf wraith golem blue wolf wraith red golem? Or do you need exp quints and zil? Assume I'm running 9 utility min

Golem: 220 XP
Big Lizard: 200 XP
4x Small Lizard: 120 XP
4x Small Golems: 560 XP
2x Big Wolf: 180 XP
4x Small Wolf: 200 XP
2x Big Wraith: 240 XP
6x Small Wraith: 120 XP
Total: 1840 XP x 1.11 = 2042 XP, 458 XP shy of level 6. Not even Zilean will fill that gap.


Interesting thank you
Creeps give like 60 exp each right? Times 0.55 for split exp and it would take about 15 creepS to hit 6 off that? That's a little more thAn 2 waves?

Just wondering about powerlevelling ww to 6 earlygame. He clears fast enough that he could afford about 10 or 15 seconds of lane exp but I'm wondering if you would lose too much from the lack of ms or ad quints

IIRC the "power-level 6" path for Warwick is:
Minis->Wraiths->Wolves->Blue->Minis->Wraiths->Wolves->Red->Minis->Wraiths->Wolves*, with a bluepill somewhere in there as needed (if you're undisturbed, the best time is after you grab the blue or red, minimizing the wasted camp time).

* The last set of wolves is where the XP quints make the difference. With XP quints you hit 6 off the wraith camp instead of the wolves, right at around 7:10 or 7:15, which puts you near the enemy blue when it spawns (at least, if their jungler started at blue), with a red buff and a level advantage. If you don't have the XP quints, you hit 6 only one camp later, but miss that timing.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 16 2011 04:06 GMT
#2579
QUESTION!!

When should you get armor per lvl yellows instead of flat armor?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:09:32
October 16 2011 04:07 GMT
#2580
I don't think...ever? Since most champions start with pretty low armor at level, flat armor is to bring your armor from like 15 something to close to 30. If you want scaling survival, HP/level is better.
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