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On October 16 2011 05:20 clickrush wrote:
wat? singed's slow is much stronger, ranged and aoe.you can catch ppl from weird angles with it
Singed slow is movement speed slow only. Lee Sin E and Wither hit attack speed too. So it's definitely arguable.
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Then there is Leon'a 80% AoE slow with a stun in the middle. 
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On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place.
That's release gunblade, not future gunblade. The numbers are from when it came out.
edit: I don't get to play very much anymore, so please excuse the brag.
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On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more.
Riot don't care if Vlad suck.
If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it.
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On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it.
IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket
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On October 16 2011 06:37 STS17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it. IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket
The good old days when people were bitching about triple revolver vlad,o god.
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On October 16 2011 06:38 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 06:37 STS17 wrote:On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it. IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket The good old days when people were bitching about triple revolver vlad,o god.
only thing that would've made triple revolver vlad more qq-inducing is if revolver gave gp/5 lol
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On October 16 2011 06:37 STS17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it. IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket
People bought Vlad for real money. They didn't for Locket.
They would have done that if they could, though.
also: What an awful Jarvan indeed.
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They said he was an awful Jarvan because his Triforce took 15 minutes to complete instead of 10, IIRC.
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And he is missing Levi, SOTO, Mejaj, and tiamat.
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On October 16 2011 06:46 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 06:37 STS17 wrote:On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it. IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket People bought Vlad for real money. They didn't for Locket. They would have done that if they could, though. also: What an awful Jarvan indeed.
It's not like you can't refund the RP cost. They just don't want to make people upset by removing a champ someone likes.
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I've figured out the League of Legends equivalent to when your opponent in starcraft accuses you of maphacking. Its when the opposing team tells your team to report the person you were laning against for feeding. Great feeling.
(This is in the cases where you were just winning your lane super-hard, rather than when your lane opponent was actually feeding.)
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On October 16 2011 06:46 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 06:37 STS17 wrote:On October 16 2011 06:26 Noocta wrote:On October 16 2011 05:22 Doctorbeat wrote:On October 16 2011 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 15 2011 18:40 Flakes wrote:On October 15 2011 15:33 dignity wrote:
Gunblade needed a nerf. Everyone was getting it on every champion. Thanks Riot.
-Triforce
On a more serious note, depending on the numbers, who would be hit harder by this? Akali or Jax? Probably Jax, he scales much harder with the AD/lifesteal Gunblade nerf was needed, the only reason it's so strong is because they kept power-creeping it because no one bought it. I think the same can be said about Skarner. I think the XP nerf on dominion is good, last game I hit 18 with just a gunblade, tabi and chain vest edit: yarly (the old gunblade, before craziness) patch 1.0.0.86 New Item: Hextech Gunblade +45 Attack Damage +55 Ability Power +15% Life Steal +12% Spell Vamp UNIQUE Active: Deals 300 magic damage and slows the target champion by 50% for 3 seconds (700 range). 60 second cooldown. Where you getting these numbers from? Cause that's a huuuuuge nerf to the spell vamp, which also means revolver is getting hit too. And imo revolver was in a good place. If revolver gets hit Vlad is going to suck even more. Riot don't care if Vlad suck. If they had the possibility, they would just remove the champion from the game, and they said it. IMO I don't know why they don't just remove him and say "our bad guys" like they did with innervating locket People bought Vlad for real money. They didn't for Locket. They would have done that if they could, though. also: What an awful Jarvan indeed.
Considering they have this logging feature that like logs sales and stuff they could refund those people their money fairly easily. Hell they could even like throw in a little bit of extra free RP/IP as a "we are sorry" kinda thing
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Removing vlad is a whole lot of different compared to removing locket, people don't actually play locket, people still play vlad. What would you do if you'd gotten your RP back with your favourite champ removed?
"Akali is broken and hard to balance we removed her from the game but here have 1k RP".
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Did games just crash for anyone else? Went into a game and it just messed up right as it began and I keep connecting back to it after exiting and redoing LoL and it loads but then just dies....wtf
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On October 16 2011 07:55 JackDino wrote:
Removing vlad is a whole lot of different compared to removing locket, people don't actually play locket, people still play vlad. What would you do if you'd gotten your RP back with your favourite champ removed?
"Akali is broken and hard to balance we removed her from the game but here have 1k RP".
Id take it. Im not attached to any one champion.
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On October 15 2011 21:05 shinarit wrote:
Btw, dont you think its a bit too fast to add champions like this? I mean we already have 80+ champs, if we get much more, balancing will be a hard issue, and getting familiar with all of them is harder still. I played 2-300 games and there are still champs i dont really know (their skills, capabilities). I never met Yorick before this free rotation for example. Also rarely see Trundle, still dont know what his skills doing (read once on the wiki page, but dont really remember). I feel we dont really need a champion every 2 weeks.
In dota, there were patch releases where icefrog released 4 champions at once (Or was it 3) making it much more harder to balance obviously and all champions skills were quite different, you think LoL is going crazy with adding champions? Play DotA at the days.
In another note, i'm in favor of Yorick being removed, hes just such a messed up champion and terribly designed. Buff him he becomes OP, nerf him he becomes too strong. Its really hard to balance the sides with him because he's so weird.
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MoonBear:
Katarina's Bouncing Blades neither heal her with Spellvamp, nor with Lifesteal. Working as intended or just buggy?
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On October 16 2011 08:08 Shiv. wrote:
MoonBear:
Katarina's Bouncing Blades neither heal her with Spellvamp, nor with Lifesteal. Working as intended or just buggy?
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it heals with spellvamp
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