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On October 14 2011 17:00 SnK-Arcbound wrote:twitch is an unusually good jungler. You would think he would suck like eve did and rely on ganks but he can actually clear his jungle. Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On October 14 2011 16:21 Chrispy wrote: Rammus
definitely not you either get taunt OR powerball not both kayle level 2 gank not terrible alistar level 2 gank pretty good MF level 2 gank real strong rammus has a good lvl 2 gank. Top lane will still be lvl one when he ganks. Powerball is 100 damage, plus his basic w auto of almost 100. Half his hp and he'll be dead if he's taken any hits and your teammate hits him a few times.
i mean it's alright but i'd much rather a level 4 gank from rammus and it's definitely not top 3 level 2 gank IMO
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wukong is best lvl 2 gank in the gmae
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On October 14 2011 16:17 billy5000 wrote:can anybody add to my list of the junglers who have scurry lvl 2 ganks? lee sin udyr >< on a sidenote, i hate being top on purple side  #1 is GP, #2 is Nunu.
Udyr's lvl2 gank is usually not that good, and if you go bear second you lack sustain to stay in your jungle.
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On October 14 2011 17:10 taLbuk wrote: wukong is best lvl 2 gank in the gmae
run in, stop juke so they think you took deceive, wait a sec, then kill them with nimbus -> Q OP
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Shaco #1 lvl 2 gank because he's lvl3 before everyone else. Udyr lvl2 gank is bad, bear @ lvl2 is just bad unless you get the kill 100%. Xin pretty good lvl2 gank too. Pantheon isn't jungled but his lvl2 gank pretty good too.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
So has anyone played Xerath a lot recently? What are the thoughts? Does he need buffs?
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the level 2 shaco gank isn't worth it :|
On October 14 2011 17:00 SnK-Arcbound wrote: twitch is an unusually good jungler. You would think he would suck like eve did and rely on ganks but he can actually clear his jungle.
Wait... wouldn't that make him completely overpowered?
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I said shaco "lvl2" gank because he'll be lvl3 when other junglers are 2.
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Never knew twitch could even get jungle past golems, how interesting.
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twitch's lvl2 gank with red is godlike flash won't save you from that shit
do it with Q and W, don't level E for it
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alistar's level 2 gank is obscene if you wanna do it, slows you down a lot if you don't get it off though because you aren't taking E at level 2.
Actually I have no idea why alistar isn't known as a jungler, 21/0/9, wriggles triforce ghostblade, his assassination is absurd, he jungles really quickly and flexibly and ganks hard. That +AD on his ult is just, wow.
On October 14 2011 18:23 freelander wrote: twitch's lvl2 gank with red is godlike flash won't save you from that shit
do it with Q and W, don't level E for it
What are you getting level 2 off of? Red + wolves?
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You could ask for a pull and do it without smite. And then just smite big wraith
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sometimes I do that, a lot of times I can just go in stealthed and wait for 1 lane creep to die to get lvl 2
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On October 14 2011 18:43 SHr3DD3r wrote: You could ask for a pull and do it without smite. And then just smite big wraith XP gained quints also let you hit 2 off red, IIRC.
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On October 14 2011 18:05 EatMySpell wrote: So has anyone played Xerath a lot recently? What are the thoughts? Does he need buffs? He needs motherfriggin nerfs if anything. 1k range reliable stun is a complete nonsense, and his damage is in fact quite high once you're well positionned.
The only good thing is that he has hard counters (Kassadin being one).
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On October 14 2011 19:22 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 18:05 EatMySpell wrote: So has anyone played Xerath a lot recently? What are the thoughts? Does he need buffs? He needs motherfriggin nerfs if anything. 1k range reliable stun is a complete nonsense, and his damage is in fact quite high once you're well positionned. The only good thing is that he has hard counters (Kassadin being one). Morgana trolls Xerath so hard,when he tries to siege up you put a defile under him and giggle.
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Morgana is definitely a hard counter to Xerath. Just wait until he sieges, put shield on, bind him and kill him ^_^
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On October 14 2011 19:43 Zhiroo wrote: Morgana is definitely a hard counter to Xerath. Just wait until he sieges, put shield on, bind him and kill him ^_^ Don't even need to shield until he casts his "next spell stuns" thing on you. Though it took me fucking forever to train myself to spot the projectile.
Then you laugh as he can't possibly stun you.
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Xin's lvl 2 gank with boots is pretty powerful too.
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Does anyone jungle with Jarvan anymore? I'm really trying to because I'm starting to get bored with Udyr/Nunu(well,you can never really get bored with Nunu,lets just say I wanna learn another jungler ),but it seems like he is so bad if you don't pull of that 2 lvl gank.He's jungling is painfull for me until you get mandreds at least.Another thing is he gets counter jungled so easy.I know he was imba before but does anyone feel like they gimped him a bit too much?
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