EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 24
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 15 2011 13:12 overt wrote: Does she do ok without building a lot of tanky stuff? I've only gotten to play her once cause she keeps getting snatched up before I can pick her. I thought that mallet would work well on her though cause of slow plus all them dashes. Will have to try building like that. Honestly, yes. She just scales so well with AD and people don't expect the Knockback -> Stun quick combo to be as detrimental as it is. Plus, you get so much survivability from BT as it is. Big damage with lifesteal, and her E shield is so fucking strong and has a 1:1 AD scaling that you are surprisingly tough for a "fighter" without any real tanky qualities. Level R > E > W > Q. 1 in Q at the start, maybe W over E in some situations. Her E is just too amazing, I can't contain how in love with it I am. With max CDR, it lasts the CD, so you can have it up so lonnggg. I tried Blade, Boots, Bruta, Phage, BT, but you really need that BF Sword before Phage. You seriously make up for the life with her E if you remember to hit it. I almost want to skip a DBlade altogether, but it's just too strong in laning to deal with. Ult when you engage, E into battle, QQQ on their faces, and W somewhere in there to mess with them and then clean up with second R. It's pretty sick damage. For boots, I really, really want to take CDR boots for big chain damage, but you're pretty CC vulnerable, so you really need Mercs if possible. Also, anyone seen: http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/stonewalls-jungle/3432-jungle-riven ? I think that might actually be viable, and she wouldn't be too shabby to set up ganks. I'll have to investigate further, but she might be the new awesomeness. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On September 15 2011 15:28 Requizen wrote: Honestly, yes. She just scales so well with AD and people don't expect the Knockback -> Stun quick combo to be as detrimental as it is. Plus, you get so much survivability from BT as it is. Big damage with lifesteal, and her E shield is so fucking strong and has a 1:1 AD scaling that you are surprisingly tough for a "fighter" without any real tanky qualities. Level R > E > W > Q. 1 in Q at the start, maybe W over E in some situations. Her E is just too amazing, I can't contain how in love with it I am. With max CDR, it lasts the CD, so you can have it up so lonnggg. I tried Blade, Boots, Bruta, Phage, BT, but you really need that BF Sword before Phage. You seriously make up for the life with her E if you remember to hit it. I almost want to skip a DBlade altogether, but it's just too strong in laning to deal with. Ult when you engage, E into battle, QQQ on their faces, and W somewhere in there to mess with them and then clean up with second R. It's pretty sick damage. For boots, I really, really want to take CDR boots for big chain damage, but you're pretty CC vulnerable, so you really need Mercs if possible. Also, anyone seen: http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/stonewalls-jungle/3432-jungle-riven ? I think that might actually be viable, and she wouldn't be too shabby to set up ganks. I'll have to investigate further, but she might be the new awesomeness. Pretty much going to die to CC + Burst or be neutered with exhaust every team fight if there's ANY competent plays being made if you build her like that. She has zero poking potential and she's not exactly the super cleanup crew either. She's strong scaling with AD but I can't really see glass cannon working unless you have really good support or initiation. Go play Talon if you are after a glass cannon AD burster. As I said, she needs a LOT of farm to be effective but first she needs to control her top lane properly and farm as long as possible. She'll eventually outscale most other bruisers but it does take forever, I think - wriggles because of the cloth + 5 pots start - boots 1 and then warmogs - boots 2 - atmas - Last Whisper & some MR | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Second game I decided to try her out with a more glass cannon build. I did fine in lane solo top. Had 30-40 CS over Kassadin but he was Kassadin so I had a hard time killing him. Could get him low several times but would get silenced/slowed and then he'd live. Even with the CS advantage though our mid and bot lane lost hard and our jungle Noc fed...felt impossible to do much of anything in team fights but again, this game is a bad example. I dunno, I want to play her a lot more because she's just so much fun. Might just accept that everyone else will want her for the next few days though. I'll try getting Phage prior to BT, I still think you'd need some tank items though. I don't think she does enough damage to build full glass cannon from what I've seen of others/experienced myself. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Profit for the next week where you are guarenteed to face one every game. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
On September 15 2011 17:11 zalz wrote: Pick a champ that counters Riven. Profit for the next week where you are guarenteed to face one every game. If you are going against my teamates you don't even need to counter her, they will counter themselves. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 15 2011 16:05 TheYango wrote: Because of her shield scaling off AD, I feel the most cost-effective survivability sources for her are going to be AD+armor/MR items. The 3 main contenders for this are Wriggle's, Hexdrinker, and Atmas. Hmm. What if you build all three? Open with wriggles, then either warmogs or hexdrinker. If you go mogs go atmas then hexdrinker, if not maybe mallet then atmas? Would be expensive but it sounds pretty good to me at least. Final item could be hard ad or super tanking item. Dunno, I wanna play around with her builds. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Shiv.
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On September 15 2011 17:34 JackDino wrote: Website says servers are online @ EUWest, they still aren't though lol. I was about to say the same. Riot real good. Also, what do think about the Mac client still working once you replace the original LoL.exe with one of a windows installer? To me, this looks like they are indirectly saying: sup guys, we are not officially supporting Mac anymore, so if you have any problems that stem from your OS, we are not going to help you. Our focus is on developing the PC version. But hey, we are no jerks, you are still going to be able to play. Please do not turn this into a Mac vs. PC debate, there's thousands of those all over teh interwebz. I just wanted to know your opinion on what Riot is trying to accomplish there. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On September 15 2011 15:14 Navi wrote: Jiji + chauster duo queue into 1200 and unrankeds hilarity ensues i think all the other high elo guys are just dodging after seeing them duo queue lol holy god duo must be free elo right now, I'm watching them and these players... where do you find people like this?! | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
On September 15 2011 17:44 UniversalSnip wrote: holy god duo must be free elo right now, I'm watching them and these players... where do you find people like this?! Mana crystal annie gg, he played better than I do against bots. | ||
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