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[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 24

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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 15 2011 06:25 GMT
#461
Another thing Is that there are more posters since League of Legends subforums have appeared on the left side. Don't forget about that, I also don't think it's a problem at all.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:30:30
September 15 2011 06:28 GMT
#462
On September 15 2011 13:12 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 13:07 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
wow riven AE damage can be pretty sick. went 4v5 against a team that was baroning. no one thought to disable the riven. can't imagine how much damage i did but everyone died really fast and i got a triple kill haha. pop that ult and smash keys. 9-1-7 and 8-2-9 in my last 2 games w/ her.

building 21/x/x, AD quint, arpen red, flat armor, flat MR. dorans, mercs, brutalizer, BT, mallet


Does she do ok without building a lot of tanky stuff? I've only gotten to play her once cause she keeps getting snatched up before I can pick her. I thought that mallet would work well on her though cause of slow plus all them dashes. Will have to try building like that.


Honestly, yes. She just scales so well with AD and people don't expect the Knockback -> Stun quick combo to be as detrimental as it is. Plus, you get so much survivability from BT as it is. Big damage with lifesteal, and her E shield is so fucking strong and has a 1:1 AD scaling that you are surprisingly tough for a "fighter" without any real tanky qualities.

Level R > E > W > Q. 1 in Q at the start, maybe W over E in some situations. Her E is just too amazing, I can't contain how in love with it I am. With max CDR, it lasts the CD, so you can have it up so lonnggg.

I tried Blade, Boots, Bruta, Phage, BT, but you really need that BF Sword before Phage. You seriously make up for the life with her E if you remember to hit it. I almost want to skip a DBlade altogether, but it's just too strong in laning to deal with.

Ult when you engage, E into battle, QQQ on their faces, and W somewhere in there to mess with them and then clean up with second R. It's pretty sick damage.

For boots, I really, really want to take CDR boots for big chain damage, but you're pretty CC vulnerable, so you really need Mercs if possible.

Also, anyone seen: http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/stonewalls-jungle/3432-jungle-riven ? I think that might actually be viable, and she wouldn't be too shabby to set up ganks. I'll have to investigate further, but she might be the new awesomeness.
It's your boy Guzma!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:52:36
September 15 2011 06:48 GMT
#463
On September 15 2011 15:28 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 13:12 overt wrote:
On September 15 2011 13:07 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
wow riven AE damage can be pretty sick. went 4v5 against a team that was baroning. no one thought to disable the riven. can't imagine how much damage i did but everyone died really fast and i got a triple kill haha. pop that ult and smash keys. 9-1-7 and 8-2-9 in my last 2 games w/ her.

building 21/x/x, AD quint, arpen red, flat armor, flat MR. dorans, mercs, brutalizer, BT, mallet


Does she do ok without building a lot of tanky stuff? I've only gotten to play her once cause she keeps getting snatched up before I can pick her. I thought that mallet would work well on her though cause of slow plus all them dashes. Will have to try building like that.


Honestly, yes. She just scales so well with AD and people don't expect the Knockback -> Stun quick combo to be as detrimental as it is. Plus, you get so much survivability from BT as it is. Big damage with lifesteal, and her E shield is so fucking strong and has a 1:1 AD scaling that you are surprisingly tough for a "fighter" without any real tanky qualities.

Level R > E > W > Q. 1 in Q at the start, maybe W over E in some situations. Her E is just too amazing, I can't contain how in love with it I am. With max CDR, it lasts the CD, so you can have it up so lonnggg.

I tried Blade, Boots, Bruta, Phage, BT, but you really need that BF Sword before Phage. You seriously make up for the life with her E if you remember to hit it. I almost want to skip a DBlade altogether, but it's just too strong in laning to deal with.

Ult when you engage, E into battle, QQQ on their faces, and W somewhere in there to mess with them and then clean up with second R. It's pretty sick damage.

For boots, I really, really want to take CDR boots for big chain damage, but you're pretty CC vulnerable, so you really need Mercs if possible.

Also, anyone seen: http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/stonewalls-jungle/3432-jungle-riven ? I think that might actually be viable, and she wouldn't be too shabby to set up ganks. I'll have to investigate further, but she might be the new awesomeness.


Pretty much going to die to CC + Burst or be neutered with exhaust every team fight if there's ANY competent plays being made if you build her like that. She has zero poking potential and she's not exactly the super cleanup crew either. She's strong scaling with AD but I can't really see glass cannon working unless you have really good support or initiation.

Go play Talon if you are after a glass cannon AD burster.

As I said, she needs a LOT of farm to be effective but first she needs to control her top lane properly and farm as long as possible. She'll eventually outscale most other bruisers but it does take forever, I think

- wriggles because of the cloth + 5 pots start
- boots 1 and then warmogs
- boots 2
- atmas
- Last Whisper & some MR




overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 07:05:04
September 15 2011 07:04 GMT
#464
Yeah, I've only gotten to play two games with her. Constantly being picked by other people or my friend that I was duo queuing wanting to play her. Both games were not good examples though. First game I built tanky and went like 14/2/14 because other team was retarded and built hardly any armor.

Second game I decided to try her out with a more glass cannon build. I did fine in lane solo top. Had 30-40 CS over Kassadin but he was Kassadin so I had a hard time killing him. Could get him low several times but would get silenced/slowed and then he'd live. Even with the CS advantage though our mid and bot lane lost hard and our jungle Noc fed...felt impossible to do much of anything in team fights but again, this game is a bad example.

I dunno, I want to play her a lot more because she's just so much fun. Might just accept that everyone else will want her for the next few days though. I'll try getting Phage prior to BT, I still think you'd need some tank items though. I don't think she does enough damage to build full glass cannon from what I've seen of others/experienced myself.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 15 2011 07:05 GMT
#465
Because of her shield scaling off AD, I feel the most cost-effective survivability sources for her are going to be AD+armor/MR items. The 3 main contenders for this are Wriggle's, Hexdrinker, and Atmas.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 15 2011 07:05 GMT
#466
Meh.. I don't think atmog is good on her. Not that the combo is bad, but until you got atma, you do no damage at all. You're not Lee sin with his awsome Q damage bonus or having a ton of utility.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 15 2011 07:44 GMT
#467
Or you could finish the Atma before finishing the Warmog.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 15 2011 07:50 GMT
#468
I think his problem is that if you get early atma (like giant's ->atma) instead of early bf you get less ad for more gold, though i think it's worth it to give atmogs a try anyway, it always is :x
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#469
Yeah, but Atma gives you other things than AD as well... wonder if her passive can crit as well, would be super strong^^
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 15 2011 08:04 GMT
#470
Wouldn't sheen/triforce be great on her, considering you can autoattack after every Q.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 15 2011 08:10 GMT
#471
you probably do all 3 Qs inside 2 seconds. does it start the cooldown after your ability is used, or after you've attacked with the proc?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 15 2011 08:11 GMT
#472
Pick a champ that counters Riven.

Profit for the next week where you are guarenteed to face one every game.
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
September 15 2011 08:14 GMT
#473
On September 15 2011 17:11 zalz wrote:
Pick a champ that counters Riven.

Profit for the next week where you are guarenteed to face one every game.


If you are going against my teamates you don't even need to counter her, they will counter themselves.
Loose lips sink ships
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 15 2011 08:16 GMT
#474
On September 15 2011 16:05 TheYango wrote:
Because of her shield scaling off AD, I feel the most cost-effective survivability sources for her are going to be AD+armor/MR items. The 3 main contenders for this are Wriggle's, Hexdrinker, and Atmas.


Hmm. What if you build all three? Open with wriggles, then either warmogs or hexdrinker. If you go mogs go atmas then hexdrinker, if not maybe mallet then atmas? Would be expensive but it sounds pretty good to me at least. Final item could be hard ad or super tanking item. Dunno, I wanna play around with her builds.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 15 2011 08:16 GMT
#475
Next 3 weeks , upcomming allmost 2 weeks for new ppl playing her, week after that F2P and even more ppl play her. Ez wins
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 15 2011 08:34 GMT
#476
Website says servers are online @ EUWest, they still aren't though lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
September 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#477
On September 15 2011 17:34 JackDino wrote:
Website says servers are online @ EUWest, they still aren't though lol.

I was about to say the same. Riot real good.

Also, what do think about the Mac client still working once you replace the original LoL.exe with one of a windows installer? To me, this looks like they are indirectly saying: sup guys, we are not officially supporting Mac anymore, so if you have any problems that stem from your OS, we are not going to help you. Our focus is on developing the PC version. But hey, we are no jerks, you are still going to be able to play.

Please do not turn this into a Mac vs. PC debate, there's thousands of those all over teh interwebz. I just wanted to know your opinion on what Riot is trying to accomplish there.
currently rooting for myself.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 15 2011 08:44 GMT
#478
On September 15 2011 15:14 Navi wrote:
Jiji + chauster duo queue into 1200 and unrankeds
hilarity ensues
i think all the other high elo guys are just dodging after seeing them duo queue lol


holy god duo must be free elo right now, I'm watching them and these players... where do you find people like this?!
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
September 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#479
On September 15 2011 17:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 15:14 Navi wrote:
Jiji + chauster duo queue into 1200 and unrankeds
hilarity ensues
i think all the other high elo guys are just dodging after seeing them duo queue lol


holy god duo must be free elo right now, I'm watching them and these players... where do you find people like this?!


Mana crystal annie gg, he played better than I do against bots.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 15 2011 09:07 GMT
#480
I'm on EU right now and oh wait, WHERE THE FUCK IS RIVEN ?!
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