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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 28 2011 23:25 GMT
#3241
On September 29 2011 08:07 esotericc wrote:
Is it worth doing the crawl to 30? I mean I find myself constantly loading up this game over SC2 and I was determined to make it high enough in one of these games to compete at a low competitive level (lans etc. nothing "pro").

I am honestly questioning if its worth putting in the time to attempt to compete by dragging to 30 then trudging my way to a high elo and then finding a decent team\clan as opposed to doing the same in Sc2 (getting high masters for weekly tourny's) which admittedly relies less on other people for success

I am 15 in game now, played dota for about 6 years before quitting a while ago so I am familiar with the ARTS genre.

On the flip side being competitive in a ARTS requires less time.

Just invest in $25 in riot points and buy some exp boosts. You should be able to hit 30 in about 2 weeks of playing.

I did the majority of leveling for Smash's smurf, and it only took like 75 games.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
September 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#3242
On September 29 2011 08:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 08:07 esotericc wrote:
Is it worth doing the crawl to 30? I mean I find myself constantly loading up this game over SC2 and I was determined to make it high enough in one of these games to compete at a low competitive level (lans etc. nothing "pro").

I am honestly questioning if its worth putting in the time to attempt to compete by dragging to 30 then trudging my way to a high elo and then finding a decent team\clan as opposed to doing the same in Sc2 (getting high masters for weekly tourny's) which admittedly relies less on other people for success

I am 15 in game now, played dota for about 6 years before quitting a while ago so I am familiar with the ARTS genre.

On the flip side being competitive in a ARTS requires less time.

Just invest in $25 in riot points and buy some exp boosts. You should be able to hit 30 in about 2 weeks of playing.

I did the majority of leveling for Smash's smurf, and it only took like 75 games.


Even after 30 there is a lot of work involved to become competitive just curious if its worth it over sc2 where I am better at LoL currently.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 28 2011 23:43 GMT
#3243
On September 29 2011 08:42 esotericc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 08:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:07 esotericc wrote:
Is it worth doing the crawl to 30? I mean I find myself constantly loading up this game over SC2 and I was determined to make it high enough in one of these games to compete at a low competitive level (lans etc. nothing "pro").

I am honestly questioning if its worth putting in the time to attempt to compete by dragging to 30 then trudging my way to a high elo and then finding a decent team\clan as opposed to doing the same in Sc2 (getting high masters for weekly tourny's) which admittedly relies less on other people for success

I am 15 in game now, played dota for about 6 years before quitting a while ago so I am familiar with the ARTS genre.

On the flip side being competitive in a ARTS requires less time.

Just invest in $25 in riot points and buy some exp boosts. You should be able to hit 30 in about 2 weeks of playing.

I did the majority of leveling for Smash's smurf, and it only took like 75 games.


Even after 30 there is a lot of work involved to become competitive just curious if its worth it over sc2 where I am better at LoL currently.


doesn't sound like it's even close to worth it for you
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 23:45:46
September 28 2011 23:44 GMT
#3244
I have a smurf acct I leveled to 30, and I also one time took 10x smurfs to level 5 for the free 975 rp.
People ask how I could stand to start over at level 1 but I'm not sure what to say.
At no point was it 'dragging' or 'trudging' cuz I was just playing games.
I don't anymore, but when I was leveling I bought an IP boost, but I never bought an exp boost because I knew I would get to 30 anyway just by playing.
The best way for you to get to 30 is forget about getting to 30 and just play lots of games.
imoimoimo don't even think about trying to 'go pro' if you can't even get to level 30 without feeling like it's a drag.

edit: pick the game you find most fun
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
September 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#3245
On September 29 2011 08:44 Logrus wrote:
I have a smurf acct I leveled to 30, and I also one time took 10x smurfs to level 5 for the free 975 rp.
People ask how I could stand to start over at level 1 but I'm not sure what to say.
At no point was it 'dragging' or 'trudging' cuz I was just playing games.
I don't anymore, but when I was leveling I bought an IP boost, but I never bought an exp boost because I knew I would get to 30 anyway just by playing.
The best way for you to get to 30 is forget about getting to 30 and just play lots of games.
imoimoimo don't even think about trying to 'go pro' if you can't even get to level 30 without feeling like it's a drag.

edit: pick the game you find most fun



Not pro, competitive, something like desrow or orb quality not pro but able to compete in weekly tournaments and stuff like that. But yea I play LoL more than sc2 but the grind to 30 is so long and I can't play with my current team because of lack of masteries getting me stomped.
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
September 28 2011 23:59 GMT
#3246
Question: When Olaf's W is up, does the spell vamp apply to his E? Looks like if it did you'd gain back half the health you lost because it's true damage, which seems like less of a trade off.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
September 29 2011 00:05 GMT
#3247
On September 29 2011 08:52 esotericc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 08:44 Logrus wrote:
I have a smurf acct I leveled to 30, and I also one time took 10x smurfs to level 5 for the free 975 rp.
People ask how I could stand to start over at level 1 but I'm not sure what to say.
At no point was it 'dragging' or 'trudging' cuz I was just playing games.
I don't anymore, but when I was leveling I bought an IP boost, but I never bought an exp boost because I knew I would get to 30 anyway just by playing.
The best way for you to get to 30 is forget about getting to 30 and just play lots of games.
imoimoimo don't even think about trying to 'go pro' if you can't even get to level 30 without feeling like it's a drag.

edit: pick the game you find most fun



Not pro, competitive, something like desrow or orb quality not pro but able to compete in weekly tournaments and stuff like that. But yea I play LoL more than sc2 but the grind to 30 is so long and I can't play with my current team because of lack of masteries getting me stomped.


To be honest, if you are trying to be competitive in this game, you are gonna be forced to spend lots of money. The "grind" to level 30 is practically nonexistent compared to rune pages, runes, and champions.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#3248
On September 29 2011 08:59 Iskusstvo wrote:
Question: When Olaf's W is up, does the spell vamp apply to his E? Looks like if it did you'd gain back half the health you lost because it's true damage, which seems like less of a trade off.

I am about 85% sure that it does apply the vamp to his E, but I would have to go ingame to check for 100%
You can't milk those!
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
September 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#3249
On September 29 2011 09:05 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 08:52 esotericc wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:44 Logrus wrote:
I have a smurf acct I leveled to 30, and I also one time took 10x smurfs to level 5 for the free 975 rp.
People ask how I could stand to start over at level 1 but I'm not sure what to say.
At no point was it 'dragging' or 'trudging' cuz I was just playing games.
I don't anymore, but when I was leveling I bought an IP boost, but I never bought an exp boost because I knew I would get to 30 anyway just by playing.
The best way for you to get to 30 is forget about getting to 30 and just play lots of games.
imoimoimo don't even think about trying to 'go pro' if you can't even get to level 30 without feeling like it's a drag.

edit: pick the game you find most fun



Not pro, competitive, something like desrow or orb quality not pro but able to compete in weekly tournaments and stuff like that. But yea I play LoL more than sc2 but the grind to 30 is so long and I can't play with my current team because of lack of masteries getting me stomped.


To be honest, if you are trying to be competitive in this game, you are gonna be forced to spend lots of money. The "grind" to level 30 is practically nonexistent compared to rune pages, runes, and champions.


Ah not worth the time then, I don't have the desire to spend large amounts of money when I will just be leaving when dota 2 comes anyway. (not bashing LoL I am just a dota player at heart but hate hon and wc3 engine)
Arthemesia
Profile Joined May 2011
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 00:14:29
September 29 2011 00:14 GMT
#3250
On September 29 2011 09:07 esotericc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 09:05 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:52 esotericc wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:44 Logrus wrote:
I have a smurf acct I leveled to 30, and I also one time took 10x smurfs to level 5 for the free 975 rp.
People ask how I could stand to start over at level 1 but I'm not sure what to say.
At no point was it 'dragging' or 'trudging' cuz I was just playing games.
I don't anymore, but when I was leveling I bought an IP boost, but I never bought an exp boost because I knew I would get to 30 anyway just by playing.
The best way for you to get to 30 is forget about getting to 30 and just play lots of games.
imoimoimo don't even think about trying to 'go pro' if you can't even get to level 30 without feeling like it's a drag.

edit: pick the game you find most fun



Not pro, competitive, something like desrow or orb quality not pro but able to compete in weekly tournaments and stuff like that. But yea I play LoL more than sc2 but the grind to 30 is so long and I can't play with my current team because of lack of masteries getting me stomped.


To be honest, if you are trying to be competitive in this game, you are gonna be forced to spend lots of money. The "grind" to level 30 is practically nonexistent compared to rune pages, runes, and champions.


Ah not worth the time then, I don't have the desire to spend large amounts of money when I will just be leaving when dota 2 comes anyway. (not bashing LoL I am just a dota player at heart but hate hon and wc3 engine)


Ya it's definitely not worth it for you just play the free champs and have fun with it because honestly it's a huge time and money sink. Not saying it's not worth it if you really like the game just for someone who isn't really in love with all the aspects of the game then you probably won't want to spend all the time leveling and buying runes and champs.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 29 2011 00:14 GMT
#3251
On September 29 2011 09:07 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 08:59 Iskusstvo wrote:
Question: When Olaf's W is up, does the spell vamp apply to his E? Looks like if it did you'd gain back half the health you lost because it's true damage, which seems like less of a trade off.

I am about 85% sure that it does apply the vamp to his E, but I would have to go ingame to check for 100%


unless they changed it at some point, it does indeed. that was one of the first things i tested on olaf
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 29 2011 00:16 GMT
#3252
I still don't get how you guys lost like 2-50 in that game we just played. o.o
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 29 2011 00:17 GMT
#3253
On September 29 2011 09:14 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 09:07 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:59 Iskusstvo wrote:
Question: When Olaf's W is up, does the spell vamp apply to his E? Looks like if it did you'd gain back half the health you lost because it's true damage, which seems like less of a trade off.

I am about 85% sure that it does apply the vamp to his E, but I would have to go ingame to check for 100%


unless they changed it at some point, it does indeed. that was one of the first things i tested on olaf

seconding that it does.
you get back 71 hp with max W and E, approximately halving the cost.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 00:18:47
September 29 2011 00:18 GMT
#3254
On September 29 2011 09:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
I still don't get how you guys lost like 2-50 in that game we just played. o.o

rugfeeder magic + ap jungle yi, that was 23 of our 35? deaths

oh and we had FOUR kills thankyouverymuch
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 29 2011 00:21 GMT
#3255
talon 2 hard to play

real confusing champ
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 29 2011 00:25 GMT
#3256
On September 29 2011 09:21 barbsq wrote:
talon 2 hard to play

real confusing champ

Spam W at enemy in lane, kill them.
You can't milk those!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 29 2011 00:31 GMT
#3257
Just some random stuff I've seen to counter level 2 ganks, these are mostly specific to junglers who like to gank at level 2 (Lee sin, Pirate, Nocturne, etc):

Support should roam top at the beginning of the game. You CV their stone golems at around 1:3x. If they're doing it and you're on the bottom team (so he's able to gank your top lane), ward top before you go bottom to support. Similarly if they're not doing stone golems and you're on the top team, it's worth it to ward top lane before you go bottom (especially against someone like Nocturne).

If the other team goes stone golems -> lvl 2 gank on a side lane, an easy counter-jungle path to take is to just steal their blue for your mid. For example you can do blue->wolves->wraiths->their blue (maybe you'll need to skip wraiths for slower junglers). That's basically insta mid won with blue at level 3.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 00:34:29
September 29 2011 00:33 GMT
#3258
edit: o u meant be4 the minions start
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 29 2011 00:43 GMT
#3259
On September 29 2011 09:18 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 09:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
I still don't get how you guys lost like 2-50 in that game we just played. o.o

rugfeeder magic + ap jungle yi, that was 23 of our 35? deaths

oh and we had FOUR kills thankyouverymuch


You had five actually. Kogmaw had 3 deaths and Tree had 2.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 29 2011 00:44 GMT
#3260
On September 29 2011 09:18 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 09:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
I still don't get how you guys lost like 2-50 in that game we just played. o.o

rugfeeder magic + ap jungle yi, that was 23 of our 35? deaths

oh and we had FOUR kills thankyouverymuch


I liked how I killed yi and only got 41 gold. He was only worth a cannon creep lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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