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DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
September 29 2011 02:39 GMT
#3281
I'm still waiting for pure tanks to be played as support on bot lane. Shen's stun is great both offensively and defensively, and with his passive and his q he can actually play a good harassing role, kind of like support GP.

We already see some Leona botlane (I know Nyph trained her for IEM China), and of course Alistar used to be considered a full tank as well.

Someone go out there and try a Shen/Caitlyn lane!
My modesty is awesome.
Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
September 29 2011 02:45 GMT
#3282
i would be nice if there was featured streamers for lol -_- i have no idea who to watch and none of them have too many viewers so its hard to guess, cba having to watch long enough to know if they are someone i can learn from or not
Where there's smoke, there's me
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 29 2011 02:46 GMT
#3283
I always thought D. Klein was MoonBear... Am I crazy? Either way AP to Armor conversion seems kinda neat. I think he is defiantly gunna show us some pretty crazy things, RUSH HOURGLASS.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
September 29 2011 02:47 GMT
#3284
On September 29 2011 11:45 Holykitty wrote:
i would be nice if there was featured streamers for lol -_- i have no idea who to watch and none of them have too many viewers so its hard to guess, cba having to watch long enough to know if they are someone i can learn from or not


http://clgaming.net/index.php?page=livestream
http://www.solomid.net/streams.php

????
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 29 2011 02:50 GMT
#3285
too many wins to put match history at this point..
[image loading]

vayne take me to the clouds! at 1594 now :o!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
September 29 2011 02:54 GMT
#3286
We're actually working on a featured streamers program More soon!
My modesty is awesome.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 29 2011 02:56 GMT
#3287
Vayne is way too good man. People say Cait is the best AD because of her early game, but between an equally fed Vayne and Caitlyn, Vayne is soooo scary with her true damage and burst. She can 1v2 or even 1v3 and not really have a problem with enough farm.
It's your boy Guzma!
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 29 2011 02:58 GMT
#3288
On September 29 2011 11:50 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
too many wins to put match history at this point..
[image loading]

vayne take me to the clouds! at 1594 now :o!


vayne is the ad carry I lose almost certainly with it even though I like her. Its my weakest role and my weakest champ I play in that role. Mb I just can't get past the fact that she is not what I liked her to be.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 29 2011 02:59 GMT
#3289
mobility and natural ability to kill tanks is so strong! and the stuns from E so strong!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 29 2011 03:04 GMT
#3290
She requires a lot of positioning because of her low range and low base hp, which a lot of people are bad at.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 29 2011 03:24 GMT
#3291
ok thats why iam only decent with tanks and assassins lol.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 29 2011 03:24 GMT
#3292
First thing I thought about Xerath's passive:

hmmm a bot lane AP. Maybe something TSM would play...

interesting passive, wonder how strong the % is. Becoming naturally tanky to most of the enemy team's damage sounds awesome. Build RoA/Rylais on top of that and you got the HP buffer as well.

Has only 2 damaging abilities though, wonder how slow projectile that Q is, as it looks like his entire gameplay is around hitting that.

In any case, looks interesting. I'll definately look forward to maybe buying this, the last like 6 or 7 champs have looked so bland and boring.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 29 2011 03:30 GMT
#3293
On September 29 2011 12:24 daemir wrote:
First thing I thought about Xerath's passive:

hmmm a bot lane AP. Maybe something TSM would play...

interesting passive, wonder how strong the % is. Becoming naturally tanky to most of the enemy team's damage sounds awesome. Build RoA/Rylais on top of that and you got the HP buffer as well.

Has only 2 damaging abilities though, wonder how slow projectile that Q is, as it looks like his entire gameplay is around hitting that.

In any case, looks interesting. I'll definately look forward to maybe buying this, the last like 6 or 7 champs have looked so bland and boring.


he has 3 damaging abilities. you missread that.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 29 2011 03:33 GMT
#3294
Hmm I could have sworn the EU news posts didn't have Arcane Barrage before. Oh well, that's even better. I'm tempted to get a day1 purchase.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 03:38:35
September 29 2011 03:34 GMT
#3295
I'd take a kogmaw over a vayne any day. The %magic damage is very comparable to the true damage of vayne. You just have to be able to escape with only flash since he has no escapes.

Also, did the servers crash or something?guess our game was just in limbo
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 29 2011 03:38 GMT
#3296
Kogmaw is way stronger as long as you can defend him in lane and he doesn't get snowballed on early.

Vayne's a pubstomper in comparison.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 03:49:58
September 29 2011 03:46 GMT
#3297
doodz, we need to make double AP 100 to 0 botlane standard. put like vayne top vs their stupid bruiser and panth mid with any rando jungle and it's gg. Just played Brand Annie with a friend of mine and it was rape. They were in range for a kill whenever they were close enough to farm. Level 6 is a lolfest. If they buy magic resist your sololanes will rape them come mid-late game. Dragon control is ezpz becasue you have the sickest ulticombo since amumu-fiddle. If you're confused by having 2 people trying to farm at once, let brand farm and have annie only last hit with q to charge stun. She doesn't need farm because her aoe stun is retarded late game no matter what.

gogo make it happen!

edit: also, I don't think people should write double jungle off as a total troll either. Just put singed or someone bot and gank the fuck out of it and it's all good. If you have strong gankers like rammus noct or something, you can punish them for getting cocky and trying to zone your 1v2. Also, being able to COMPLETELY f with their jungle can't be a bad thing, with good coordination you can probably shut it down almost completely, especially against unorganized teams (solo q).
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 29 2011 03:47 GMT
#3298
Ah well I play solo queue, sometimes duo, so there ya go.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 04:15:44
September 29 2011 04:14 GMT
#3299
On September 29 2011 12:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I'd take a kogmaw over a vayne any day. The %magic damage is very comparable to the true damage of vayne. You just have to be able to escape with only flash since he has no escapes.

They're not comparable. Some comps can support Kog-maw, and some can't. Kog has better raw damage, but sometimes you just can't support a carry that's all damage--Vayne is a much more self-reliant carry, which is good for solo queue--but also good when the team composition calls for it even in arranged games (e.g. the opposing team-comp has multiple anti-carries and you only have access to weaker peeling supports like Taric or Sona).
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4343 Posts
September 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#3300
Loci, you should have me stream for you, I'll get you viewers with my amazing rage powers. =p

On another note. I'm finally in 1400 and people are starting to play slightly better. Hopefully I'll reach 1500 soon and live happily ever after.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
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