EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 152
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On September 28 2011 09:10 overt wrote: Yeh, HSGG definitely rages too much but in past scrims I've watched SV adds to the problem more than anyone else. I do agree with other people that HSGG should just step up and admit when he's in the wrong. There are just things about SV that I think a lot of the people on CLG dislike. For example Chauster had this to say about him on his questions thread: I didn't watch this game so I'll take people's word for it that he made good calls. I just know that SV tends to tilt just as bad as HSGG does and has about the same ego. The only real difference is that SV doesn't rage as badly imo. Obviously the drama isn't too terrible because they can still win games when they're all yelling at each other. edit note: That quote is from mid July. Chauster may not feel that way anymore. I think its actually BEST for CLG if they have someone who leads the team and assumes he is right 100% of the time, especially since his calls are typically really good. Their biggest problem is that they tend to fall into huge periods of indecision and inaction, whereas TSM has regi to make sure they are always involved in some sort of team action. He isnt always right, but having a leader who makes good calls that the team is willing to follow is invaluable. Just look at TSM results in big tourneys. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 28 2011 09:37 Two_DoWn wrote: I think its actually BEST for CLG if they have someone who leads the team and assumes he is right 100% of the time, especially since his calls are typically really good. Their biggest problem is that they tend to fall into huge periods of indecision and inaction, whereas TSM has regi to make sure they are always involved in some sort of team action. He isnt always right, but having a leader who makes good calls that the team is willing to follow is invaluable. Just look at TSM results in big tourneys. lol what? That doesn't even support your argument. CLG doesn't have a central shot caller like TSM does yet CLG still produces slightly better results than TSM thus far. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
EDIT- This is where not having a liquipedia for lol really sucks cuz I cant go back and check to see what the actual placements have been recently. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 28 2011 08:16 57 Corvette wrote: OK, so I have been having two problems recently with my gameplay. The first issue is with my jungling post-6. Levels 1-6 I can generally keep up with the rest of my team. After that though I always seem to get underleveled by 2-3 levels for no good reason. I try to continue to go through the jungle, kill creeps (giving buffs to our mid/AD carry), but I end up level 10 when most other people are level 12 or 13. I am not entirely sure how to fix this without going to top lane and stealing all their exp. Second issue is more with my laning on AP carries (mid) and Ashe (bot). I CS well for the first 10-15 mins (up till about level 8/9), but after that the rate that my CS goes up is pitiful. I get 80-85ish CS in about 10 mins (not good, but not horrible), and I end the 40 min game with like 140. It is probably because I focus way too much on killing opponents after the laning phase is over. How can I get my focus on getting CS after the laning phase is over? (I guess they are both related, mostly CSing after 10 or so mins.) You clear your jungle faster, meaning you have more time where you aren't earning experience, while lanes continually gain experience the entire time. You need to spend more time ganking, and only grabbing the big xp camps from the jungle. Stealing a different lanes xp doesn't matter if you just killed the people in that lane so they aren't getting any. It depends on who you are playing and how quickly you can clear a wave. Brand or morg will clear a wave faster than ryze. Picking up creep waves that are pushing is the best way to get cs (you can pick up 20+ from a massive wave that occasionally accumulates). | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:24 GranDim wrote: As anyone tried crit riven? Theoretically the triple multiplier of her passive, her ult and crit means massive damage. At 18 with IE and youmoo's with her ult up deals 236 * 1.5 * 2.5 = 885 damage swings. that only works on spells that apply "on-hit" effects. gangplanks parrrrrrrrrrrrrley can crit, as well as ez' mystic shot. riven does not have spells that apply on-hit effects and her passive IS an on-hit effect itself. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 28 2011 08:13 Alaric wrote: What? Where am I missing a jungle Mao?  Found it! o/ He's got mercury threads and RoA... Does someone know how he started to end up with that? Sapphire +2 pots? He starts Boots+3Pot, 9/0/21, with arpen marks, armor seals, mr glyphs, and flat AP quints (also has used a page with MPen marks, armor seals, mr glyphs, and 2x MS + 1x AP quints, but I don't think he stuck with that page). Stacks his saplings on wolves to instaclear them at 1:40, then gets a big pull on blue->wraiths->minis->bluepill->whatever. Item build is roughly boots->RoA->Sorcs or Mercs->Sheen/Spellblade/BVeil/Glacial in whatever order makes most sense for the game. On September 28 2011 10:42 Craton wrote: I don't think they multiply like that. Iirc it's been proven that her passive is multiplied completely by crit. | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
Level 15 with Youmoo IE CDR boots 3 crit cloaks 208 AD(250 with ult) +4 to minions, forgot to screenshot the bonus AD but her base AD at 15 is 95 Plain crit 567 Passive + crit 639 Ult + crit 679 Ult + Passive + crit 773 I am at a lost on how that math works out but it doesn't seem like the passive crit | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On September 28 2011 11:31 TheYango wrote: Iirc it's been proven that her passive is multiplied completely by crit. I was referring to the 2.5 and 1.5 part. It's more likely that they would apply separately and be added on, not one be multiplied and then have the total multiplied again. | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
So the fun sick part!!! I've been max 1.6k ranked before other people in my team 1.5k in general as max and it is where we are right now as well. Oppenents on the other hand have had much much higher rating than us before reset. 2k 2.2k 1.8k 1.7k 1.9k How the hell could we win, am I really that good? :D (no qq this time, just random bragging) | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4341 Posts
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spacemonkey4eve
United States267 Posts
Next encounter I try to set up a gank with jarv. I bait him to commit but jarv doesn't move for a couple seconds, and I get critted up the ass and die. jarv comes late and dies after a few crits... we make a small comeback mid game but that twitch knows how to catch ppl off guard and gets insanely fed. The interesting part is, he was talking shit to me and my team, as WELL as his own team the entire game. I was thinking of just muting him, but this guy's troll mode was just legendary. Like I've never seen someone troll this hard before. I just want a rematch so bad... we're at similar ELO right now so fingers crossed. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
http://clgaming.net/board/board39-reign-of-gaming/board40-blogs/board71-rock-solid/3330-jungling-tips-vol-1/#post27428 Jungling Tips Vol. 1 by Jatt I'm probably not going to be posting detailed guides for how to play specific junglers, there are plenty of resources online for people to find beginner and intermediate guides on how to jungle certain champions. Instead, i'll make posts regarding general jungling theory and a few small tips and tricks that i've picked up in my experience. Leeching XP from lanes: This is a topic in which alot of hate gets thrown around in game. "NOC GET THE FK OUT OF MY LANE" is a fairly common line I hear alot of. What I want to explain is that there is a time and a place for stealing lane experience which is actually beneficial to the team as a whole. It's all about maximizing XP gain for the team. let's say that your mid lane shopped at the same time as the other midlane, and both sides creeps meet at the middle of the map. Normally, when the midlanes return there will be 1-3 creeps remaining on each side for the midlanes to clean up. If you, as the jungler, kill all 6 creeps immediately and let the lane shove to the tower you maximize XP gain for your team. your team gets all 6 while their team gets the 1 or 2 the tower didn't clean up. The same theory applies if you are playing a fast jungler like Udyr and your jungle is completely clear. In that situation, attempt a gank. If it doesn't work, no big deal. maintain a presence in the lane in whatever way you can.(zone the other guy, wait in a bush, shove the lane to the tower with your partner) Remember, Riot made a change to XP gains where more overall experience is gained when 2 people are in the lane as opposed to 1. Sorry if that wasn't very clear but I think it gets the point across. being ahead on XP compared to the enemy jungler has amazing advantages. If you are higher level + have better items you can start asserting your dominance over the other jungler much more easily. it makes it easier to countergank and fight 2v2's and you can often snowball your advantage by invading the enemies jungle with your superior level and item build. Happy Hunting | ||
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l46k4.jpg) Yep top 10 elo player right here. Only need to get carried 3 more times to be number 1. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 28 2011 11:29 clickrush wrote: that only works on spells that apply "on-hit" effects. gangplanks parrrrrrrrrrrrrley can crit, as well as ez' mystic shot. riven does not have spells that apply on-hit effects and her passive IS an on-hit effect itself. dude mystic shot does not crit | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:43 UniversalSnip wrote: dude mystic shot does not crit It used too, back in the good olde days. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
good olde days as in your dreams? | ||
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