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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#3001
On September 28 2011 07:08 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:57 spinesheath wrote:
Arcane Shift + Trueshot Barrage = Arcane Barrage?
Long range caster... as if we didn't already have enough of those.

Alternatively Bio-Arcane Barrage minus the Bio

OMG wow how could I miss that when I play Kog myself and the champ design is so similar too...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 27 2011 22:53 GMT
#3002
This game that's currently on Saint's stream - is this a scrim or a tournament game?
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
September 27 2011 22:58 GMT
#3003
Oh wow CLG are getting so pissy at each other. SV: How did you die to that? where's your ward? HS: I DO have a ward! SV: That's a ward? No no, it should be over this way instead.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 27 2011 22:59 GMT
#3004
dat jungle Maokai

oO
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2011 23:08 GMT
#3005
CLG rage is actually really entertaining.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 23:18:13
September 27 2011 23:13 GMT
#3006
What? Where am I missing a jungle Mao?

Found it! o/ He's got mercury threads and RoA... Does someone know how he started to end up with that? Sapphire +2 pots?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 27 2011 23:16 GMT
#3007
OK, so I have been having two problems recently with my gameplay.

The first issue is with my jungling post-6. Levels 1-6 I can generally keep up with the rest of my team. After that though I always seem to get underleveled by 2-3 levels for no good reason. I try to continue to go through the jungle, kill creeps (giving buffs to our mid/AD carry), but I end up level 10 when most other people are level 12 or 13. I am not entirely sure how to fix this without going to top lane and stealing all their exp.

Second issue is more with my laning on AP carries (mid) and Ashe (bot). I CS well for the first 10-15 mins (up till about level 8/9), but after that the rate that my CS goes up is pitiful. I get 80-85ish CS in about 10 mins (not good, but not horrible), and I end the 40 min game with like 140. It is probably because I focus way too much on killing opponents after the laning phase is over. How can I get my focus on getting CS after the laning phase is over?

(I guess they are both related, mostly CSing after 10 or so mins.)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 27 2011 23:27 GMT
#3008
As ragey as CLG is, they still play better.

saint really should just shot call for them imoimo.
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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#3009
Yeah they yell at each other a lot but I think that dynamic just works for them somehow.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#3010
On September 28 2011 08:16 57 Corvette wrote:
OK, so I have been having two problems recently with my gameplay.

The first issue is with my jungling post-6. Levels 1-6 I can generally keep up with the rest of my team. After that though I always seem to get underleveled by 2-3 levels for no good reason. I try to continue to go through the jungle, kill creeps (giving buffs to our mid/AD carry), but I end up level 10 when most other people are level 12 or 13. I am not entirely sure how to fix this without going to top lane and stealing all their exp.

Second issue is more with my laning on AP carries (mid) and Ashe (bot). I CS well for the first 10-15 mins (up till about level 8/9), but after that the rate that my CS goes up is pitiful. I get 80-85ish CS in about 10 mins (not good, but not horrible), and I end the 40 min game with like 140. It is probably because I focus way too much on killing opponents after the laning phase is over. How can I get my focus on getting CS after the laning phase is over?

(I guess they are both related, mostly CSing after 10 or so mins.)


you are spending too much time wandering around the map not getting anything done and not enough time farming/pushing. same problem in both cases. The whole concept of map efficiency is really important, efficient uses of time are like

- pushing
- killing creeps
- killing jungle creeps
- killing towers
- killing dragon/nashor
- killing wards
- killing people

Pretty much anything else will cause you to bleed xp/gold/map control while you're doing it. A team that spends a lot of time wandering around purposelessly will incur a substantial disadvantage.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#3011
That Karthus handling by HSGG didn't go well...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#3012
This clg vs tsm game looks interesting, sad I missed most of it.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2011 23:41 GMT
#3013
On September 28 2011 08:36 HazMat wrote:
This clg vs tsm game looks interesting, sad I missed most of it.


The CLG vent is far more entertaining than the actual game.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 27 2011 23:47 GMT
#3014
On September 28 2011 08:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:36 HazMat wrote:
This clg vs tsm game looks interesting, sad I missed most of it.


The CLG vent is far more entertaining than the actual game.

Pretty much this. HS rages a lot for shit that is usually his fault, and SV refuses to let points die.


Although generally SV does make the best calls for CLG.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 23:50:14
September 27 2011 23:48 GMT
#3015
CLG winning a close match with such epic vent drama is really fucking impressive.

Imagine how good they would be if they didnt argue all the fucking time.

oh wait nvm they're still world champions.

lol
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 27 2011 23:50 GMT
#3016
I've heard Chauster talk in interviews before about how he wants Kobe24 on CLG instead of SV but Kobe doesn't play enough to be competitive.

I didn't watch this match but I've heard Chauster complain about SV a few times. I could be wrong but I feel like SV is a pretty big source of the drama even though I'm pretty sure HSGG rages more than he should.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 23:53:14
September 27 2011 23:53 GMT
#3017
SV made tons of good calls during this match, I dont think he's in the wrong. He's a highly competitive person and isnt afraid to critize his teammates when they make misstakes.

The problem is HSGG who starts crying really loudly for 15 minutes if he's getting critized because his ego is so extremely fragile.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2011 23:54 GMT
#3018
SV just doesn't drop anything. If hotshot could man up and admit to a mistake SV wouldn't have to berate him for that mistake the entire game. I suppose it isn't the best personality trait if you're looking for friends...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 23:57:31
September 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#3019
On September 28 2011 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
SV just doesn't drop anything. If hotshot could man up and admit to a mistake SV wouldn't have to berate him for that mistake the entire game. I suppose it isn't the best personality trait if you're looking for friends...


Tap has the exact same problem. The difference being it's rarely as justified. :p
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 00:11:28
September 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#3020
On September 28 2011 08:53 Senx wrote:
SV made tons of good calls during this match, I dont think he's in the wrong. He's a highly competitive person and isnt afraid to critize his teammates when they make misstakes.

The problem is HSGG who starts crying really loudly for 15 minutes if he's getting critized because his ego is so extremely fragile.


Yeh, HSGG definitely rages too much but in past scrims I've watched SV adds to the problem more than anyone else. I do agree with other people that HSGG should just step up and admit when he's in the wrong.

There are just things about SV that I think a lot of the people on CLG dislike. For example Chauster had this to say about him on his questions thread:
who do you prefer on jungle duty, saintvicious or kobe, and why? what are teh differences in their playstyles?
i prefer kobe when he is not rusty because he actually plays amumu and does ganks well. also he doesnt try to lead the team and assume he is 100% right all the time when 3 other people are telling him otherwise


I didn't watch this game so I'll take people's word for it that he made good calls. I just know that SV tends to tilt just as bad as HSGG does and has about the same ego. The only real difference is that SV doesn't rage as badly imo.

Obviously the drama isn't too terrible because they can still win games when they're all yelling at each other.

edit note:
That quote is from mid July. Chauster may not feel that way anymore.
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