League of Legends season 2 $5 million Prize pool - Page 15

On August 16 2011 04:30 jstar wrote:


Yea, millions of useless noobs and scrubs that would get slaughtered in any 1500 rated HoN/Dota game.

On August 16 2011 05:04 MegaManEXE wrote:


And posts like this (and a lot of others in this thread) are the reason why the moba genre gets such a bad reputation as a gaming community.

The problem with DotA was always that it's too inaccessible for a new player to get into. LoL's matchmaking and leveling system, along with rotating out only 10 free champions per week, allows a new player to not feel too overwhelmed by everything and can learn as they go against people of a similar skill level, rather than being thrown into a game where everyone will yell at them for feeding and not knowing what 80 heroes and 100 items do. Whether you like LoL or not, the fact of the matter is that the game introduced millions of new players into the genre, and they might be players who will help the DotA 2 community grow (believe it or not, not all LoL players are bad Brazilians who go 0-10 with tank Mordekaiser every game).

On August 16 2011 04:06 Haemonculus wrote:
I still don't get the crazy irrational LoL/Riot hate. Seriously about a third of the people in these threads sound like they've been personally wronged by the game/company.

On August 16 2011 02:05 taLbuk wrote:
My biggest problem is LoL has seriously 4 "world class" teams, and only 2 of those are even sponsored by actual eSports teams, while the other 2 are homegrown. Riot can throw money at eSports all they want, but it's not going to suddenly get the big names to play the game OR the big teams to go to Lan events unless they are going to keep paying the tab for it.

On August 16 2011 05:01 jstar wrote:


It is, but I don't wanna piss of some mods here who might be LoL fanbois. I got warned previously for posting a true and harmless statement.

On August 16 2011 05:09 Gorguts wrote:



this post is just pathetic. DOTA isn't accessible enough??? are you crazy?. LoL/DotA are like the easiest games ever. that's why they're so popular. all you have to do is stay near your creeps and not die, and know what items to buy, and you win. and when you lose, just blame your teammates.

the reason MOBA games get laughed at is because EVERY single person who plays them thinks they're a godlike pro, because the games are so damn easy.

On August 16 2011 05:13 Cenequus wrote:


Hmm let me see some from my memory: Millenium,Sk Gaming,FnaticMSI,gamed!de,mtW,dignitas,Team Liquid(don't know if they are official tho since they are some random 1900 ELO guys),unRestricted,complexity.
Those are the most know big teams but there are many other sponsored teams.

On August 16 2011 05:04 MegaManEXE wrote:


And posts like this (and a lot of others in this thread) are the reason why the moba genre gets such a bad reputation as a gaming community.

The problem with DotA was always that it's too inaccessible for a new player to get into. LoL's matchmaking and leveling system, along with rotating out only 10 free champions per week, allows a new player to not feel too overwhelmed by everything and can learn as they go against people of a similar skill level, rather than being thrown into a game where everyone will yell at them for feeding and not knowing what 80 heroes and 100 items do. Whether you like LoL or not, the fact of the matter is that the game introduced millions of new players into the genre, and they might be players who will help the DotA 2 community grow (believe it or not, not all LoL players are bad Brazilians who go 0-10 with tank Mordekaiser every game).

On August 16 2011 05:05 Iplaythings wrote:

SK gaming and Fnatic isn't invited, since this tournament isn't for European teams, apparently

That sounds like pretty "established" names, to me.

Why people come in LoL threads to bash the game, the players or say how much it will die pisses the crap out of me. Thats not what this thread is about, jesus!

On August 16 2011 02:21 Kisra wrote:


From Twitter (Rinoa is their eSports director person lady), so its not just one massive tournament with an insane prize pool.

On August 16 2011 05:17 MegaManEXE wrote:


I was talking about european teams so i don't know if Curse got both NA and Eu teams.

The TL team is just some guys from TL who grouped up to form a team to play in tournaments, aside from all being members of the LoL subforum here they aren't sponsored or anything like that afaik.

And unRestricted is now sponsored by Curse Gaming.

Edit: Sorry double post :<

On August 16 2011 05:10 Muki wrote:


This has been mostly forgotten by now, but I'll try to explain here why a lot of people hate Riot and LoL.

Before playdota.com, the original domain for the community was dota-allstars.com (referred to commonly as DA). The webmaster was Pendragon and domain owner, the fat guy now in Riot winning beer drinking competitions and what not. .Video
Then one day, they decided to start offering some kind of dota patcher, a fake intrusive program that had no other use other than to alienate people from dota. A few days later, the forums and other interactive parts of the site were pretty much taken down. Then the site became just a pure text, a letter from Pendragon describing how bad Icefrog is, selling the dota concept for the HoN devs and then to Riot while at the same time working for Valve, in the end redirecting players to leagueoflegends.com, telling that's where the real dota experience will continue.

Now this is interesting, because
1) It's their fault if they buy it. Personally I don't believe they couldn't have created these dota clones without any input from Icefrog, especially having Guinsoo, the earlier dev of dota at hand.
2) We cannot know if it's true even. To further their claims, a letter from a Valve employee was leaked, claming Icefrog was an antisocial Arab called Abdul, who's had a few years of black hole in his CV when he was scouted by Valve, apparently working for S2 and Riot.

While all these claims and defamation may be true, this was just an artificial way of creating E-drama anyway. All they needed was that people would be listening to them.

So yeah, imagine you typed in leagueoflegends.com and it suddenly redirected to dota2.com now. Wouldn't be too happy with that right?

This is a lot of useless E-drama that went on and a lot of outsiders to the dota scene don't know about, but in the end it contributed a great deal to LoL's sudden popularity.

So that's one. The other reason why dota players dislike LoL because it dumbed down some gameplay mechanics, therefore it is considered a noob game in the eyes of hardcore dota fans, like you could see in MYMMaelk's tweet. Imagine a lot of people suddenly considered some other RTS the ultimate competitive game instead of SC2, while that was not the case. A lot of people who started with LoL don't even know about Dota, or how bad Guinsoo's Dota actually was.

On August 16 2011 05:07 Shikyo wrote:
Fun fact btw, I've played 1400 games of LoL and am 1430 elo, I've played 60 games of HoN and I'm 1650. I don't even know why people keep talking about HoN in these threads -_- What's with the massive amounts of LoL hate

On August 16 2011 05:26 Ophi13 wrote:
omg. Guinsoo's Dota is gold :D

On August 16 2011 04:06 Haemonculus wrote:
So that's one. The other reason why dota players dislike LoL because it dumbed down some gameplay mechanics, therefore it is considered a noob game in the eyes of hardcore dota fans, like you could see in MYMMaelk's tweet. Imagine a lot of people suddenly considered some other RTS the ultimate competitive game instead of SC2, while that was not the case. A lot of people who started with LoL don't even know about Dota, or how bad Guinsoo's Dota actually was.

On August 16 2011 05:18 jstar wrote:
Dota has been around for a very long time, and believe or not, it was the difficulty and the steep learning curve that made it's e-sports involvement so successful today. Following IceFrog and all the drama that happened (Which I won't bother going into), LoL was created and it took a different approach and garnered a huge amount of casual gamers.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint, but from a gamer's standpoint, it brought in a lot of noobs with a different mindset into the MOBA genre, and that is going to significantly hinder the skill level and growth of Dota 2. If you look into Korea or China's culture, you'll find that their new players aren't afraid of learning and climbing that steep learning curve in order to become better. That is why China's Dota scene is leaps and bounds ahead of anywhere else in the world. Their entire community improves at a much faster rate than the rest of the world, simply because there is no casual community to slow them down.

On August 16 2011 05:19 JBright wrote:


European teams were not invited to MLG because of the short notice and how long the games take to finish (6 bo3 already) in pool play. They are still part of season 2.

On August 16 2011 05:27 Gescom wrote:

Fun fact -- the two games don't use the same ELO scale.