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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#881
On August 15 2011 17:45 dnastyx wrote:
Tell me how Anivia is a humanoid.


her voice sounds human :D
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#882
On August 15 2011 17:45 dnastyx wrote:
Tell me how Anivia is a humanoid.


She's not, i forgot about her.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 15 2011 08:54 GMT
#883
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 15 2011 09:04 GMT
#884
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying

Garen super op this patch.

Does anyone know how you can make items smartcast? (such as you click 3 and your ward instantly drops) I can't do it in key bindings but is there another way?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 09:07:23
August 15 2011 09:07 GMT
#885
can't smartcast items, there is no way

On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


I'm pretty sure both those heroes are insane now
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 09:09:38
August 15 2011 09:09 GMT
#886
Not even by editing game files? I'm le sad. Moonbear pass this on to riot plz.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 15 2011 09:11 GMT
#887
On August 15 2011 18:09 HazMat wrote:
Not even by editing game files? I'm le sad. Moonbear pass this on to riot plz.


ok poorly phrased

might be a way but I have never heard of it and it's not conventional if it exists
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
August 15 2011 09:23 GMT
#888
I'm sorry for hunting you Grandim
was fun though:D
You can't milk those!
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 15 2011 09:38 GMT
#889
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 15 2011 09:42 GMT
#890
On August 15 2011 18:23 StuffedTurkey wrote:
I'm sorry for hunting you Grandim
was fun though:D


I don't know why I try to play MF bot lane in a normal, you usually get the retarded melee AD who fucks your CS, doesn't do shit so the lane is effectively 1v2 and there's very little leadership so proper team fights just don't happen as much. MF needs a her IE/zeal to function mid/late and she only shine if shes allowed good positioning on the ult. If you get a support its usually a Janna that may shield you shield once or twice during the whole lane phase and who just loves to tornado the creep waves.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 09:46:23
August 15 2011 09:44 GMT
#891
On August 15 2011 18:38 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.


Garen too strong vs Akali, the matchup only becomes even when Akali gets ult + rylai, at least you should be getting more farm than him.

I may just wait until the nerfs before I ranked again if he becomes a very popular top.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 15 2011 10:06 GMT
#892
What I approve of Garen top: Maokai counters garen (yay!)
In the woods, there lurks..
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 15 2011 10:06 GMT
#893
On August 15 2011 18:44 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 18:38 zalz wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.


Garen too strong vs Akali, the matchup only becomes even when Akali gets ult + rylai, at least you should be getting more farm than him.

I may just wait until the nerfs before I ranked again if he becomes a very popular top.


Akali is hit very hard in particular due to the fact that her smoke bomb provides no safety from Garen, he just spins right over it.

Akali has always relied on getting to level 6 before being a real powerhouse but even with that i don't feel that the fight is balanced, it's still in Garens favour.

You dash to him, he reacts with a Q and a spin. The base damage on both his Q and E are enormous and they scale great. Garen can easily bring most champions from 100% to 0% with Q-E ignite - R.

Starting with armor 5 pot or doran shield is probably the best way to go head to head with a garen, but very few champs can. He has trouble with ranged champs so a good Gragas can prolly even things out, but most of the classic solo top champs just get countered completly. The all powerfull Singed is a joke compared to him.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
August 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#894
On August 15 2011 18:38 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.


In a sense he is OP in another he's not, we can all agree that his early game is very strong and difficult to counter. The thing is if you don't feed him ridiculously he'll fade away late game like many other heroes, sure he'll be good but not more so than many other top champions. That is how I see rumble and some other characters too, even before patches as long as you don't feed them alot they will deminish over time and that's a part of the game imo. Although I cannot really see why they buffed him but the difference is still about the same lategame.

Just don't expect to be ganking garen, just don't die and he'll not be annoying later in the game.
Meh
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 15 2011 10:24 GMT
#895
When I solo-1v2 against a Garen as Irelia I usually don't feed, since I rely on Equilibrium to stun him every time he comes near (I still eat his Q tho since Equi's animation's so slow), but I can't really prevent him from spin-pushing the wave to me and I still get somewhat outfarmed. Plus he's tough to wound.

How do you build Galio to carry, btw? I was starting Chalice since he's got a lot of mana issues early (can't do without clarity at the moment), but since I saw one farm like mad into buying core items while stacking dr, I usually go for 3 DR, boots, then FoN and armor (usually thornmail if there are 2+ ADs, always fun against Trynda/Jax comps on an ult).
With a BV it costs about 10k gold, so not that hard to get, but even then I feel like I lack HP (armour/resistance amount to about 200 but as I'll only get focused during my ult it's not a problem, I just max his shield 2nd) and damage on my Q.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:29:49
August 15 2011 10:27 GMT
#896
On August 15 2011 19:06 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 18:44 GranDim wrote:
On August 15 2011 18:38 zalz wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.


Garen too strong vs Akali, the matchup only becomes even when Akali gets ult + rylai, at least you should be getting more farm than him.

I may just wait until the nerfs before I ranked again if he becomes a very popular top.


Akali is hit very hard in particular due to the fact that her smoke bomb provides no safety from Garen, he just spins right over it.

Akali has always relied on getting to level 6 before being a real powerhouse but even with that i don't feel that the fight is balanced, it's still in Garens favour.

You dash to him, he reacts with a Q and a spin. The base damage on both his Q and E are enormous and they scale great. Garen can easily bring most champions from 100% to 0% with Q-E ignite - R.

Starting with armor 5 pot or doran shield is probably the best way to go head to head with a garen, but very few champs can. He has trouble with ranged champs so a good Gragas can prolly even things out, but most of the classic solo top champs just get countered completly. The all powerfull Singed is a joke compared to him.


I played the lane a few times already and the standard boots +3 pots is still the way to go, early game its all about the dance where you are trying to keep him away from creeps with harass while staying within safe distance of his Q. Not starting boots probably means getting zoned.

Every single one got juked enough once I got rylai + ult that the trades were about even, you just need to survive and farm until then.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:32:53
August 15 2011 10:30 GMT
#897
On August 15 2011 19:24 Alaric wrote:
When I solo-1v2 against a Garen as Irelia I usually don't feed, since I rely on Equilibrium to stun him every time he comes near (I still eat his Q tho since Equi's animation's so slow), but I can't really prevent him from spin-pushing the wave to me and I still get somewhat outfarmed. Plus he's tough to wound.

How do you build Galio to carry, btw? I was starting Chalice since he's got a lot of mana issues early (can't do without clarity at the moment), but since I saw one farm like mad into buying core items while stacking dr, I usually go for 3 DR, boots, then FoN and armor (usually thornmail if there are 2+ ADs, always fun against Trynda/Jax comps on an ult).
With a BV it costs about 10k gold, so not that hard to get, but even then I feel like I lack HP (armour/resistance amount to about 200 but as I'll only get focused during my ult it's not a problem, I just max his shield 2nd) and damage on my Q.


typically i just build RoA on him and rushing cata will solve your mana issues for early game. and build Q+E equally and one point in W. maxing W last. summoners flash + tele

i get roa, boots, thornmail, abyssal sceptre, bv or GA and then a deathcap but that's my preference lol

when you ult you wanna alt+w and then cast your ult.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
August 15 2011 10:46 GMT
#898
Hey Smash

[image loading]

Why is my duo queue so bad?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 15 2011 10:52 GMT
#899
Southlight, there is an "Utahime" on the EU east server, is that you by any chance? o_O
In the woods, there lurks..
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:54:10
August 15 2011 10:53 GMT
#900
On August 15 2011 18:38 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:54 Phrost wrote:
I feel like I've discovered a new game. I started playing some offbeat champions that recently got buffed (that i havent played in forever) and its hilarious. Galio and Garen have the broadest shoulders for carrying


Garen was OP last patch, for some ridiculous reason they decided to buff him.

He isn't just a strong solo top, he completly shuts down other popular solo tops. Champs like Irelia go from great top to horrible feeders when faced with a Garen.

His level 1 Q deals like 180 damage or something. Considering it resets your auto-atack you are dishing out a hit + a Q, it leaves squishy champs at half hp. Half a second later you flash kill them at level 2 with a Q-E ignite.


For the life of me i can't figure out why it is that Garen has not yet exploded into popularity. Maybe it's because some people still build him tank and they don't notice how OP he is when build damage.


A nerf seems unavoidable for him and truth be told, i think it would have been justified even before he got his buffs.


What? Garen isn't op, lol. He can get very easily shut down in lane by ANY ranged champion and then is useless. We picked teemo vs him in go4lol and he just did nothing that useful all game although he killed teemo once in a mini teamfight.

Any champion is OP if they win there lane. He is strong lane and decently strong in teamfights but to call him OP is retarded considering all the other OP champions like gangplank, orianna or lee sin.
Well I guess leesin/brand are both champions that are "OP if you land skillshots".
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