EPTSkarner strikes me as another champ that's kind of meh early and then gets super OP lategame with items.
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
Skarner strikes me as another champ that's kind of meh early and then gets super OP lategame with items. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
DERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1089824 COUNTERDERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12803579#post12803579 he also got re-owned on page 7. | ||
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Tadzio
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On August 13 2011 04:31 Southlight wrote: Nah, rumble was instant. LS took a bit but also needed a tweak to his skills. Irelia people simply realize wasn't what she was designed to do. Brand took a while but I think most ppl understood that he took skill to play (ie. need to land spells) - people knew his damage was ridiculously high. Except, of course, for the dumbasses that look at streams/tier lists and follow them like gospel. I think with brand most people considered him way too specialised: "if you want to get pure damage pick annie or malzahar, you will have more utility while having huge dmg anyway" Ps. Smash when are you going to stream? I finally got good internet connection so i wanted to watch ur stream but u never stream when i check for it  Do you have set streaming hours or it depends? | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On August 13 2011 04:33 Craton wrote: I don't think it's quite that long. Skarner strikes me as another champ that's kind of meh early and then gets super OP lategame with items. I've tried a few games as lane Skarner, and he is terrible early on. No lane presence at all. But later on, if you build tanky, and with Merc Treads, you're fast, can take hits, and have spammable spells. He has a slow with a 3 second CD. And with Triforce/Gunblade or something you hit hard because you have some AD and AP. Edit: And for lane Skarner to be even remotely viable, you NEED solo top. Hopefully against another melee hero. He has no range at all for harass. I've had to be solo mid a few times, and I just got fucked up because heroes like Ashe and Brand harass you from afar since you're squishy early on. Though even if your opponent is a melee hero, if they know what they are doing, they can keep you from hitting minions with Q after you E them, cutting off your already poor sustain. I tried his jungle but I'm only level 19 so no runes, and got destroyed level 1 by blue. Once I get level 20 I'll get some runes for him and try to make it work. Edit 2: Forgot to say, Skarner has some real mana issues in the early game. It's pretty annoying : / | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
The comparison to Annie/Malz was simply that they have disables, while Brand has an unreliable and only single one. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On August 12 2011 05:26 HazMat wrote: There's a bug with Caitlyn doing too much dmg with too much range. I thought it was intentional but Riot has not fixed it in any patch ever so it must be a bug. Go fix it moonbear plz. "Noob Detection System Working As Intended." On August 13 2011 04:41 Mogwai wrote: buwahahaha, amazing: DERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1089824 COUNTERDERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12803579#post12803579 he also got re-owned on page 7. LOL Also, who is really OP right now? I want to just flatten some people solo queue to farm exp/ip. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
You can still get a double tiger proc by just triggering tiger stance, waiting for the cooldown to end, then smacking something (you'll get the first one, assuming you didn't leave Tiger nor hit anything else with your proc yet) and then getting the second one two seconds later. So if you're Tiger jungling (or looking for a level 1 fight) just turn on Tiger at the fountain. | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
First wait for the wave to push towards your turret. This can happen due to either enemy lasthitting / autoattacking or you pushing to their turret and the turret pushing the wave back. After that, wait until your wave dies entirely and their creepwave would hit your turret. Tank the wave and kill all melee minions(they should be killed while your wave is attacking theirs) and leave 3-4 ranged minions. Tank them until your wave hits their wave, then lasthit them. After your next wave dies, leave 3 ranged minions again, and repeat this endlessly. You're going to always need to tank the minions but if you're say, ranged AD bot with a Soraka, it should be relatively easy, and this way you can completely shut down a Panth/Taric lane, for instance. The lane will never leave your turret and the enemy can't lasthit without being harrassed, you're completely safe and can get every single lasthit if you just never autoattack and always leave 3 ranged minions with as much health as possible. 2 Ranged minions might be enough but then you'll probably need to skip lasthitting both of them, you really need to save your lasthits for the melee minions. What makes this strategy fail: If a melee minion wanders into your turret range and gets killed by it, it instantly ruins it and makes your lane push, that's why you must kill them before they get the chance. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
This might seem very basic or too general, but when should you choose Soraka over Taric? | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On August 13 2011 04:41 Mogwai wrote: buwahahaha, amazing: DERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1089824 COUNTERDERP: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12803579#post12803579 he also got re-owned on page 7. HAHAHA oh my god. So owned. That guy's such a tool.. LOL best quote: MindlessLegend... woke the dragon. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:27 broz0rs wrote: Question! This might seem very basic or too general, but when should you choose Soraka over Taric? When early kills are unlikely regardless of who you choose. Lanin with Ashe or against Corki/Alistar, Sona/Tristana and most 2x beefy lanes are good examples of this. If more mana translates into winning your lane, Soraka shines there too. Also Karthus. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:22 Shikyo wrote: Mini guide to lane control: First wait for the wave to push towards your turret. This can happen due to either enemy lasthitting / autoattacking or you pushing to their turret and the turret pushing the wave back. After that, wait until your wave dies entirely and their creepwave would hit your turret. Tank the wave and kill all melee minions(they should be killed while your wave is attacking theirs) and leave 3-4 ranged minions. Tank them until your wave hits their wave, then lasthit them. After your next wave dies, leave 3 ranged minions again, and repeat this endlessly. You're going to always need to tank the minions but if you're say, ranged AD bot with a Soraka, it should be relatively easy, and this way you can completely shut down a Panth/Taric lane, for instance. The lane will never leave your turret and the enemy can't lasthit without being harrassed, you're completely safe and can get every single lasthit if you just never autoattack and always leave 3 ranged minions with as much health as possible. 2 Ranged minions might be enough but then you'll probably need to skip lasthitting both of them, you really need to save your lasthits for the melee minions. What makes this strategy fail: If a melee minion wanders into your turret range and gets killed by it, it instantly ruins it and makes your lane push, that's why you must kill them before they get the chance. Really? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Always kill, never die. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:27 broz0rs wrote: Question! This might seem very basic or too general, but when should you choose Soraka over Taric? Always!  JK, i think soraka = farmfest mode, taric = aggressive mode. So if you want a support for ashe you'd really prefer soraka over taric. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Yes! Okay let's call it creep wave control still, it's good to do with Soraka because she can heal while giving you armor, and it's also good to do with someone like Mordekaiser because he has the shield | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:27 broz0rs wrote: Question! This might seem very basic or too general, but when should you choose Soraka over Taric? Honestly, a hero that can 1v2. Trist, Panth, Irelia, Jarv etc. benefit from Soraka because their limiting factor for offense tends to be mana, and they output enough early-game damage that they can really axe people. | ||
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