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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
August 04 2011 21:15 GMT
#1101
On August 05 2011 06:06 TL Blazeraid wrote:


Ah, this video is amazing. TL needs to step up our gimmick team comps.

wow that trap one is hilarious
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 04 2011 21:19 GMT
#1102
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 04 2011 21:20 GMT
#1103
That is the greatest LoL video of all time.
Retvrn to Forvms
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 04 2011 21:22 GMT
#1104
On August 05 2011 06:19 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.

Well, I already did it when I just started playing on US, ANNIESTAR.

But mainly I was joking because I just saw a Karthus Heimer bottom lane on Jiji's stream. It's not going to catch on for a while at least. That AD + support crap really seems to stick in people's heads really hard.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
August 04 2011 21:27 GMT
#1105
My favorite gimmick team is "Team Never-Die". Anivia, Zilean, Kayle, Poppy and Yorick, all with Guardian Angel, Revive and Teleport. Anivia has to get killed like six times before she actually dies.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
August 04 2011 21:29 GMT
#1106
On August 05 2011 06:19 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.

Leblanc Ali king lane until they ward our bush
You can't milk those!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 04 2011 21:51 GMT
#1107
On August 05 2011 06:29 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 06:19 Mogwai wrote:
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.

Leblanc Ali king lane until they ward our bush

Blitz Ali lane. Stay in air all day.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
August 04 2011 22:00 GMT
#1108
On August 05 2011 06:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 06:29 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On August 05 2011 06:19 Mogwai wrote:
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.

Leblanc Ali king lane until they ward our bush

Blitz Ali lane. Stay in air all day.

thats what baikin and I used to do about a year and a half ago
You can't milk those!
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 04 2011 22:02 GMT
#1109
On August 05 2011 06:27 exo6yte wrote:
My favorite gimmick team is "Team Never-Die". Anivia, Zilean, Kayle, Poppy and Yorick, all with Guardian Angel, Revive and Teleport. Anivia has to get killed like six times before she actually dies.


team neverdie without trynd?
get out
cool beans
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 04 2011 22:06 GMT
#1110
unkillable baron ward is stupid. take it out of game.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 04 2011 22:16 GMT
#1111
On August 05 2011 07:06 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
unkillable baron ward is stupid. take it out of game.

Doesn't '~' still let you target wards placed on Baron?
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 04 2011 22:35 GMT
#1112
Stuck in champ select in ranked, game won't start. If I try to alt+f4 the game it threatens a queue dodge. How to escape this situation?
JewJewBees
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
August 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#1113
On August 05 2011 06:22 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 06:19 Mogwai wrote:
On August 05 2011 06:09 spinesheath wrote:
Double AP bottom lane new fotm.

Spells have high base damage -> don't need a lot of farm.

Turkey Utah and I have only been doing this ever since AD + Support caught on. Welcome to the party! Leblanc + Alistar king bot lane.

Well, I already did it when I just started playing on US, ANNIESTAR.

But mainly I was joking because I just saw a Karthus Heimer bottom lane on Jiji's stream. It's not going to catch on for a while at least. That AD + support crap really seems to stick in people's heads really hard.


yeah haha, they beat a taric brand lane too, it was pretty embarassing
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 04 2011 22:47 GMT
#1114
On August 05 2011 05:30 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 04:48 0123456789 wrote:
Janna's scalings are pretty ridic and she's like the only support that can farm well.

0.9 shield, 0.8 slow, 0.75 tornado, 0.35 on heal. 2 nukes, 2 support spells.

But the janna solo isn't anything new. It was done by jiji and reginaId before.

Zilean's still the stronger laner, has tons of burst and DPS as well for a champ with 2 support skills. I'm not even a fan of Zilean solo though. Zilean farms well btw.
And don't forget Karma. She's a beast @ farming and in lane.

The only thing that is really speaking for Janna solo mid right now imo is: She's bad vs ranged AD + healer bottom.
lol.


Zilean might be strong early game, but he's awful late game. It's not even worth building AP on him because he only has one damage ability (that doesn't even scale that well). Better off getting max cdr and then being a ward bitch so you can maximize use of his E. If you spam W fast enough you can revive two people in a single fight if somebody gets blown up at the start ^_^ My point being if you give Zilean a solo you're wasting your team's farm. His base damages are good enough that he doesn't need to farm to be annoying early on and he doesn't scale into the late game at all.

Zilean best counter-pick to Morde though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
August 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#1115
So somehow .9 AP ratio = doesn't scale well? What's the point of itemizing CDR when all you need is blue buff and a blue pot anyway?
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 04 2011 23:04 GMT
#1116
Zil is one of the few casters who is useful in every stage of the game. Most people just don't have a melee friend in every game getting farmed with them when they play Zil to make use of their 2.5k hp revive.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 04 2011 23:04 GMT
#1117
Compared to a dedicated AP carry like Annie who has three scaling abilities yes. Her ratios are slightly lower, but she has not one, but three abilities to kill people with. The only thing Zilean has going for him is that he does sustained damage and punishes close knit team since bombs can hit multiple people if they're close-by, although I'm not sure I'd consider those good.

The biggest problem with bombs is that they take three seconds to explode. You can kill somebody with annie instantly so they have no chance to get away or do anything about it. With Zilean you can force the first bomb to explode if you W and cast another, but if you can kill somebody with a single bomb you could have won playing anything. While you're waiting for the second bomb to explode they can lifesteal all that health back and then you get nowhere.

You're not so much itemizing CDR as you are not farming at all/playing support bottom.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 04 2011 23:17 GMT
#1118
Well you are comparing Zilean's dmg output to an AP Carry while completely ignoring the utility that Zilean can offer to a team. I was just responding to your point that he was "awful late game" when it's the exact opposite.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
August 04 2011 23:20 GMT
#1119
On August 05 2011 07:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Zilean might be strong early game, but he's awful late game. It's not even worth building AP on him because he only has one damage ability (that doesn't even scale that well).


?????

Putting Zil bottom is stupid, having a level 6 Zilean for an early dragon fight is huge and one of the main perks for picking him. Don't really know how you're going to have max CDR if you don't itemize for it and it's pretty stupid to give blue buff to a Zilean with no farm. Don't know why you would want to pick Zilean for a "support" bottom in the first place either, especially considering you think that a farmed Zilean is useless lategame -- what good is a Zil without items then? lol

I think it's fair to assume you just haven't seen a good Zilean, he's much better than you think.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 04 2011 23:22 GMT
#1120
if you want to run some kind of ap bot lane cheese like taric/brand you need to ban soraka since she counters pretty much all of it
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