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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 03 2010 08:51 GMT
#141
On December 03 2010 15:17 FlameSworD wrote:
sona is still pretty strong just make sure u dont oom


locket, blue buff, done.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 08:54:54
December 03 2010 08:54 GMT
#142
On December 03 2010 17:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 15:17 FlameSworD wrote:
sona is still pretty strong just make sure u dont oom


locket, blue buff, done.

IMO your team's main AP caster is usually going to be a better candidate to take blue. And yeah, locket prevents you from going OOM, but that also means you either have to get some kills/assists early, or drop going full-babysitter and steal farm from your lanemate, if you want to finish it in reasonable time.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 03 2010 09:29 GMT
#143
sona is definitely the best candidate on any team for blue, unless your team has kassadin. kass is the *ONLY* person i'd give blue to before sona
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 03 2010 09:33 GMT
#144
My blue ratings:

1) Kassadin
2) Anivia
3) Annie
4) Sona
5) Zilean

Off the top of my head though...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
December 03 2010 09:51 GMT
#145
just give it to teh one with most ap usually oO or sona
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 03 2010 09:53 GMT
#146
0) Heimerdinger.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2010 16:02 GMT
#147
On December 03 2010 18:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
My blue ratings:

1) Kassadin
2) Anivia
3) Annie
4) Sona
5) Zilean

Off the top of my head though...

This looks something like what I had in mind.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 03 2010 18:28 GMT
#148
-1) Kennen
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#149
But on a general note, if you have more than 1 of those must-have-blue casters just give it to the one who won't feed it to the other team. Which is usually kass because of his good early game and escape capability.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2010 20:02 GMT
#150
On December 04 2010 03:48 r33k wrote:
But on a general note, if you have more than 1 of those must-have-blue casters just give it to the one who won't feed it to the other team. Which is usually kass because of his good early game and escape capability.

I find "won't feed it to the other team" is generally more a function of the player, more than which champ they're on.

Maybe that's cuz I'm a baddie playing with other baddies.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 03 2010 20:10 GMT
#151
On December 04 2010 05:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 03:48 r33k wrote:
But on a general note, if you have more than 1 of those must-have-blue casters just give it to the one who won't feed it to the other team. Which is usually kass because of his good early game and escape capability.

I find "won't feed it to the other team" is generally more a function of the player, more than which champ they're on.

Maybe that's cuz I'm a baddie playing with other baddies.

No I totally agree on that, I just mentioned kass because as a character he usually gets to the midgame in really good shape with 4+ stacks on soulstealer and is also less likely to die even in the hands of a bad player.

And really, it's extremely easy to not be bad at kass. Being good is another story but as long as you use your ult to run away and dont let it stack too much you're fine taking any buffs.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 03 2010 20:22 GMT
#152
On December 03 2010 18:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
My blue ratings:
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1) Kassadin
2) Anivia
3) Annie
4) Sona
5) Zilean

Off the top of my head though...

The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
December 03 2010 20:35 GMT
#153
Doran's Ring viable for stacking on certain casters? They offer 3/4 of the AP or an ability tome along with 100 hp and 4 mana regen per 5. Of course the drawback is you can't build towards a high cost AP item that usually provides utility (Rylai's) or invulnerability (Zhonya's), but would be great for dominating early game?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 03 2010 20:37 GMT
#154
ring stacking is decent.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 20:57:54
December 03 2010 20:57 GMT
#155
IMO Cata is probably the biggest argument against ring-stacking, but it seems good if you don't plan on getting Cata.

Ring stacking>Zring has always been the way to go on Heimerdinger.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 03 2010 22:01 GMT
#156
Now that they give less mp5 and more AP I think they're even better.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
December 03 2010 22:48 GMT
#157
On December 04 2010 07:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Now that they give less mp5 and more AP I think they're even better.

I disagree quite strongly. The health and MP5 are the primary reason Heimer needs them IMOIMOIMO
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2010 23:11 GMT
#158
On December 04 2010 07:48 Odds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 07:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Now that they give less mp5 and more AP I think they're even better.

I disagree quite strongly. The health and MP5 are the primary reason Heimer needs them IMOIMOIMO

Yeah, I think the reason you Dring stack on Heimer is so you get efficient regen on Heimer without needing to have Tear or Cata delaying your ZRing significantly.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 03 2010 23:19 GMT
#159
Well I don't own heimer so I haven't played much of him. I like stacking rings on Zilean/Janna while I mass buy wards since nobody on my team ever seems to know what they are. Boots and 2-3 drings make for a very solid opening, especially if you're letting your lanemate take all the farm.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 23:35:22
December 03 2010 23:32 GMT
#160
On December 04 2010 08:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Well I don't own heimer so I haven't played much of him. I like stacking rings on Zilean/Janna while I mass buy wards since nobody on my team ever seems to know what they are. Boots and 2-3 drings make for a very solid opening, especially if you're letting your lanemate take all the farm.

AP casters =/= sidelane support

Janna does it because you don't need any farm, and when you only expect to actually play with 2-3k gold a game, with any extra going to wards, DRings + Mercs are pretty much going to be the best way to spend it.

As I said earlier, I dislike sidelane support Zilean, because if you go in saying you're not going to farm, you're basically going into the game saying "I'm going to let one-and-a-half of my abilities become useless" because you're not going to get significant AP/MPen towards bombs, hence losing their utility and half of Rewind's utility (if bombs are useless, then refreshing their CD is also useless). It's not like Janna or Taric where the non-damage component of your spells contains their real utility--Time Bomb is only about the damage, so you need to give it some scaling for it to stay relevant.
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