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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#101
On December 01 2010 23:25 Psyqo wrote:
Sona nerf, damn. I was even considering buying her after the free week is up.

She's still really good imo. You'll get more damage off the new DRing too, and earlygame lots of her damage comes from her passive which wasnt changed. I even run APen marks on Sona.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
December 01 2010 15:58 GMT
#102
All these AoEers and ranged carries getting nerfed might make Nasus more viable now if the metagame goes back to heal comps or tanky heavy
MIK Terran
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
December 01 2010 16:03 GMT
#103
On December 02 2010 00:58 Ruken wrote:
All these AoEers and ranged carries getting nerfed might make Nasus more viable now if the metagame goes back to heal comps or tanky heavy


NASUS has always been viable yo.
g.cuisine
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
December 01 2010 16:36 GMT
#104
I honestly don't know what to think of the patch. Im glad they're nerfing the ranged carries, but now it seems to be promoting a 5 tank v 5 tank set up with how hard they're nerfing people everywhere.
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 01 2010 17:55 GMT
#105
On December 02 2010 01:36 Daxunyrr wrote:
I honestly don't know what to think of the patch. Im glad they're nerfing the ranged carries, but now it seems to be promoting a 5 tank v 5 tank set up with how hard they're nerfing people everywhere.


Some melee carries can beat tanks.


Tankier sustained melee dps beats most of the tanks.

Ones that come to mind are:
Warwick
Udyr
Jax
Olaf
Nasus
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GnaR
Profile Joined June 2010
United States73 Posts
December 01 2010 18:31 GMT
#106
Argh.. Morgana nerf, Twitch nerf, MF nerf. My three favorites..
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 01 2010 18:33 GMT
#107
well the twitch nerf was barely anything, i rarely use the full duration of spray'n pray anyways
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
GnaR
Profile Joined June 2010
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 18:42:21
December 01 2010 18:39 GMT
#108
On December 02 2010 03:33 barbsq wrote:
well the twitch nerf was barely anything, i rarely use the full duration of spray'n pray anyways


Yeah, the whole "we'll change it more later" thing is just a little scary though.

I saw the Morgana skin before I read the patch notes and was about to buy it, lol. I don't remember the cooldown on her ult, wasn't it like 80 seconds? 120 seems a little extremeeee.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 01 2010 18:47 GMT
#109
Suggestion: Reverse the order of the patches so the newest ones are at the top instead of the bottom. Makes more sense from a reading standpoint in my opinion.


How viable are Doran items now? Specifically Doran blade stacking early on. The hitpoints are like the best part and now they have less hitpoints ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 01 2010 19:00 GMT
#110
I still plan on doing double d-blade openings on carries. They weren't hit that hard.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Lunek
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland164 Posts
December 01 2010 19:01 GMT
#111
They gotta be kidding me. I played janna too much to consider her op. It's all up to a player.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=4432742#post4432742
take a look if you are bored.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 01 2010 19:10 GMT
#112
lol, you played janna too much to consider her op? prior to this patch, Janna was easily the best support in the game. I'm not sure how the patch will change it, but acting like she was in a good place before this patch is horrifically naive.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 01 2010 19:18 GMT
#113
On December 02 2010 04:10 Mogwai wrote:
lol, you played janna too much to consider her op? prior to this patch, Janna was easily the best support in the game. I'm not sure how the patch will change it, but acting like she was in a good place before this patch is horrifically naive.


Sona was better.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 01 2010 19:23 GMT
#114
we'll just have to agree to disagree. they were both retarded, but monsoon is the most retardedly powerful ability ever. Sona was a better pubstomper, but I'd pick Janna over sona any day because having Janna on your team is like giving your whole team a get out of jail free card. and she also gave more focused support to your carry.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2010 19:30 GMT
#115
Sona is just silly because she's just faceroll. But I think a competent Janna is much better than a Sona.

Bubble for DPS, knock up and healing reset button is just too much good skills for a support.
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The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
December 01 2010 19:34 GMT
#116
hun~
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 01 2010 19:39 GMT
#117
well, sona does certain things better. having an AoE stun is really useful, as is having a spamable heal to keep your team topped off in a poking match, as is having a long range nuke for said poking match, as are a fistful of useful auras. Basically if fights are long drawn out affairs, Sona is better, but in a short decisive fight, Janna's presence is felt more than Sonas.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 01 2010 19:46 GMT
#118
Sona was retarded because it was neigh-impossible to lose a lane with her if played well. From a pure support perspective Janna > Sona all the way but Sona counts as a support hero and thus her ridiculous game control (by affecting a lane so much) made her #1 in my eyes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
December 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#119
How would you guys rank support heroes after this patch? I'm thinking something along the lines of 1) Taric 2) Sona 3) Janna
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 01 2010 19:51 GMT
#120
1) Janna 2) Taric 3) Soraka 4) Sona
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