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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 12 2011 06:32 GMT
#1401
On April 12 2011 15:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
I may be wrong, but 1.5<2, so it would be a nerf.

Rofl I read that wrong. Still used to the sc2 style patches zz. My bad -_-
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 06:53:14
April 12 2011 06:51 GMT
#1402
lol what is with the random MF nerf in the middle of the patch notes:
Healding debuff from impure shot reduced to 3 seconds down from 8, wait do people still play MF?

oh and love the BF and CoA price reduction and then buffing IE. lol I like that one
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 12 2011 07:11 GMT
#1403
Riot seems to have this weird idea that buffing IE helps all ranged carries, when IIRC only Ashe, Tristana, and Twitch ever got it with any regularity.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 12 2011 07:29 GMT
#1404
I felt ranged carries were doing about the right amount of damage to squishies and too little to tanks and tanky dps

so what they do is buff their damage vs everyone...? I don't understand... why not nerf all the tank items instead
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 12 2011 07:38 GMT
#1405
Did they hire a new art team? Basically, Jarman, Monk and Brand all share the same trait of looking bad and made by the same guy (actually, no, Monk is abit different). I expected something like Pyromancer from HoN while Brand looks like a black dude that accidentially got on fire and throws pieces of burning clothing around. His animation is bad. His effects are BAD. Ugh.
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radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
April 12 2011 07:44 GMT
#1406
Terrible patch, but brand looks pretty fun to play.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
April 12 2011 08:57 GMT
#1407
On April 12 2011 16:11 TheYango wrote:
Riot seems to have this weird idea that buffing IE helps all ranged carries, when IIRC only Ashe, Tristana, and Twitch ever got it with any regularity.


Which is a sign that it´s probably too weak. It´s the high end item for autoattackers, critchance and damage don´t scale with anything else.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 12 2011 08:58 GMT
#1408
I guess they wanted to reduce the healing reduction...

but nerf Katarina, even in the slightest way?

Really?
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 09:00:02
April 12 2011 08:58 GMT
#1409
On April 12 2011 16:11 TheYango wrote:
Riot seems to have this weird idea that buffing IE helps all ranged carries, when IIRC only Ashe, Tristana, and Twitch ever got it with any regularity.


Eh it helps Caitlyn, MF (you can get IE on her again where BT was usually better after nerf), and AD TF (although I think he's better AP). Those are the only ranged carries that actually suffer the "I'm squishy as fuck and do a lot of damage but not enough, please kill me" syndrome.

Corki, Ez, urgot, and teemo all are generally built tankier than a standard ranged carry (trist, MF etc) or have really good repositioning skills/do a ton of damage without IE and another item in place of it (BT, BC, Triforce). Sivir is a special case since she'll always be good with just BT's + LW as her AD b/c of ricochet.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 12 2011 09:37 GMT
#1410
* Infinity Edge
o Attack Damage increased to 80 from 75
o Critical Strike increased to 25% from 20%


loool they nerf it 2 month ago, now buff back
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
April 12 2011 09:39 GMT
#1411
Anyone play noc yet? Looks like his early jungle got nerfed to hell. Also I was just getting used to his ult range. Now i'll be wasting it again.
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Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
April 12 2011 09:47 GMT
#1412
Losing 5 AD is hardly an issue. I'm surprised his 20% ASpeed from the first rank of W stayed intact, as that contributes way more to his earlygame jungling speed.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
April 12 2011 09:50 GMT
#1413
On April 12 2011 18:47 Dezzimal wrote:
Losing 5 AD is hardly an issue. I'm surprised his 20% ASpeed from the first rank of W stayed intact, as that contributes way more to his earlygame jungling speed.


He is supposed to jungle though. The issue is his early ganking and the attackspeed is much less important then.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 12 2011 11:45 GMT
#1414
On April 12 2011 18:37 emucxg wrote:
* Infinity Edge
o Attack Damage increased to 80 from 75
o Critical Strike increased to 25% from 20%


loool they nerf it 2 month ago, now buff back

Afaik it was 20% crit before the nerf. So now while having equal cost, it provides 5% more crit (which is huge, considering you already have the +50% Crit Damage). It also is more convenient to build with the changes to BF and Cloak.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 11:49:19
April 12 2011 11:48 GMT
#1415
Whoa, EU is down. It's almost been a whole day since the last time.

By the way the IE buff was definitely needed, it didn't give enough for the price. For the price of the IE, Trinity offered a lot more utility and everything else whereas IE only gives damage. No movespeed or anything like that.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 12 2011 11:52 GMT
#1416
i dont understand why they nerfed mundo and katarina, which are two of the weakest champs anyways. probably they think that they dont have a role in competitive play anyways so its better to balance them around casual play?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 11:53 GMT
#1417
On April 12 2011 20:52 clickrush wrote:
i dont understand why they nerfed mundo and katarina, which are two of the weakest champs anyways. probably they think that they dont have a role in competitive play anyways so its better to balance them around casual play?

Mundo was actually pretty strong in competitive play and the numerous reduced healing nerfs actually buffed him alot.
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rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 12:11:36
April 12 2011 12:10 GMT
#1418
I think they just nerfed the healing reduction abilities because in any situation they were good in, their length was stupidly long. In those situations healing reduction is still very strong and what seems to me like a more appropriate length.

Xin was considered a melee dps by the community last I checked, the type of champion they've been trying to make viable for the past year. They should have left him as is and remade him if they dont like his skill design, especially considering the change is aimed at low tier games and no one even complains about him anyway.

As usual we are just going to be acting testers for this patch on the live realm. Seems like we will be back where we started a few months ago with ranged dps dominating, and then riot will try something else to make your melee dps viable.

Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
April 12 2011 12:57 GMT
#1419
On April 12 2011 20:53 Shikyo wrote:
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On April 12 2011 20:52 clickrush wrote:
i dont understand why they nerfed mundo and katarina, which are two of the weakest champs anyways. probably they think that they dont have a role in competitive play anyways so its better to balance them around casual play?

Mundo was actually pretty strong in competitive play and the numerous reduced healing nerfs actually buffed him alot.

Really...? I always saw Mundo as a tier 4 champion. Elementz pegs him at tier 5 which looks a bit too harsh to me, but I'd never call Mundo "strong" in Summoner's Rift.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 13:01 GMT
#1420
On April 12 2011 21:57 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 20:53 Shikyo wrote:
On April 12 2011 20:52 clickrush wrote:
i dont understand why they nerfed mundo and katarina, which are two of the weakest champs anyways. probably they think that they dont have a role in competitive play anyways so its better to balance them around casual play?

Mundo was actually pretty strong in competitive play and the numerous reduced healing nerfs actually buffed him alot.

Really...? I always saw Mundo as a tier 4 champion. Elementz pegs him at tier 5 which looks a bit too harsh to me, but I'd never call Mundo "strong" in Summoner's Rift.

Well if you get past the laning he's insane if you accompany him with mostly tanky dps
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