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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
April 12 2011 03:21 GMT
#1381
On April 12 2011 11:46 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Shouldn't his passive be reduced by MR?

Either way he looks extremely fun with his combos.

* Blaze (Passive): Brand's spells light his targets ablaze, dealing 2% of their maximum Health in magic damage per second for 4 seconds.

All magic damage is reduced by MR, so that would include Brand's passive.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 12 2011 04:00 GMT
#1382
Singed was already secretly OP, it makes me sad that now he's going to be publicly OP
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 04:04:16
April 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#1383
On April 12 2011 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 11:55 Juicyfruit wrote:
Brand is annie 2.0 because he's an AP caster who uses FIRE, obviously.

Derrrr

Since the Fire totally has some other significance to the game apart from looks.

But yeah it seems like this new guy is all about damage and might be fun to play with, but I really wonder how he compares to some other pure dmg casters like Veigar.


Burn the witch!

Yeah, it's obviously the fire aspect that makes people immediately compare brand to Annie >.> Based on abilities alone he is no closer to annie than he is to kennen or jarvan.

I have some trepidation when it comes to his passive. It might be REALLY op for laning if his targeted spell has any sort of decent range + cooldown.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 04:03 GMT
#1384
People complain about singed being OP but I just really don't see it... he's going to lose almost all of his pushing power now and he'll deal far less dmg. Yeah he'll be unkillable but he already was so.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2011 04:07 GMT
#1385
You'd probably have to modify the way you build him.
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 04:08:43
April 12 2011 04:08 GMT
#1386
So like, previously when you see a singed with merc treads+ ghost+insanity potion up and charging towards you - you can like y'know chuck some cc and try flash/ghost the hell outta there yea? Well now you cant. Also when has singed's pushing power been based on his ult? Pushing is 98% Poison trail. In addition, I'm not sure about you, but in team fights I don't go around auto-atting ppl with my +60dmg with ult, but flinging/running around poisoning shit. So I have no idea wth you're smoking.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 12 2011 04:16 GMT
#1387
On April 12 2011 13:03 Shikyo wrote:
People complain about singed being OP but I just really don't see it... he's going to lose almost all of his pushing power now and he'll deal far less dmg. Yeah he'll be unkillable but he already was so.


Singed's power comes from running into everybody, f'ing up the positioning of enemy carry, and then running out while baiting tons of enemy dmg + CC. Now that CC is less effective on him, way to go.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 04:35:53
April 12 2011 04:35 GMT
#1388
On April 12 2011 13:01 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
On April 12 2011 11:55 Juicyfruit wrote:
Brand is annie 2.0 because he's an AP caster who uses FIRE, obviously.

Derrrr

Since the Fire totally has some other significance to the game apart from looks.

But yeah it seems like this new guy is all about damage and might be fun to play with, but I really wonder how he compares to some other pure dmg casters like Veigar.


Burn the witch!

Yeah, it's obviously the fire aspect that makes people immediately compare brand to Annie >.> Based on abilities alone he is no closer to annie than he is to kennen or jarvan.

I have some trepidation when it comes to his passive. It might be REALLY op for laning if his targeted spell has any sort of decent range + cooldown.


I imagine the best comparison is to Malzahar. Minor cc, all DPS/nuke/AoE spells and no escape/defense.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 04:36 GMT
#1389
On April 12 2011 13:16 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 13:03 Shikyo wrote:
People complain about singed being OP but I just really don't see it... he's going to lose almost all of his pushing power now and he'll deal far less dmg. Yeah he'll be unkillable but he already was so.


Singed's power comes from running into everybody, f'ing up the positioning of enemy carry, and then running out while baiting tons of enemy dmg + CC. Now that CC is less effective on him, way to go.

A lot of the power also comes from the fact that he clears minions insanely quickly and pushes a tower in 0.2 seconds with his ulti... with that gone his solo pushing is going to be alot weaker imo.

I guess he'll be better in teamfights but imo he's a lot more dangerous as a pusher.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
April 12 2011 04:45 GMT
#1390
wait... wait... singed needed a buff?

No longer gives attack speed or attack damage, but now gives magic resist and crowd control reduction(10%/20%/30%)
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 04:51:07
April 12 2011 04:46 GMT
#1391
On April 12 2011 13:00 starfries wrote:
Singed was already secretly OP, it makes me sad that now he's going to be publicly OP

I think its funny how Guinsoo made a post a while back about how they wanted to nerf Singed for being too strong, but were afraid that the community didn't see him as being too strong--then they buff him?

On April 12 2011 13:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
I imagine the best comparison is to Malzahar. Minor cc, all DPS/nuke/AoE spells and no escape/defense.

Malz's CC kit is actually on the strong side compared to other casters like Ryze, Vlad, Karthus, Sion, etc.

Obviously when people think of casters they think of the ones like Annie, Morgana, and Anivia that have really high amounts of CC/utility, but a lot of caster designs (particularly newer ones like Cassi and Vlad) have much less CC than that.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 04:53:57
April 12 2011 04:53 GMT
#1392
On April 12 2011 13:36 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 13:16 0123456789 wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:03 Shikyo wrote:
People complain about singed being OP but I just really don't see it... he's going to lose almost all of his pushing power now and he'll deal far less dmg. Yeah he'll be unkillable but he already was so.


Singed's power comes from running into everybody, f'ing up the positioning of enemy carry, and then running out while baiting tons of enemy dmg + CC. Now that CC is less effective on him, way to go.

A lot of the power also comes from the fact that he clears minions insanely quickly and pushes a tower in 0.2 seconds with his ulti... with that gone his solo pushing is going to be alot weaker imo.

I guess he'll be better in teamfights but imo he's a lot more dangerous as a pusher.


He clears minions just as fast without his ulti lol. The ulti doesn't make that huge of a difference in that respect. Your poison doing like, 10? if that more damage doesn't mean anything lol.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 12 2011 04:54 GMT
#1393
On April 12 2011 13:53 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 13:36 Shikyo wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:16 0123456789 wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:03 Shikyo wrote:
People complain about singed being OP but I just really don't see it... he's going to lose almost all of his pushing power now and he'll deal far less dmg. Yeah he'll be unkillable but he already was so.


Singed's power comes from running into everybody, f'ing up the positioning of enemy carry, and then running out while baiting tons of enemy dmg + CC. Now that CC is less effective on him, way to go.

A lot of the power also comes from the fact that he clears minions insanely quickly and pushes a tower in 0.2 seconds with his ulti... with that gone his solo pushing is going to be alot weaker imo.

I guess he'll be better in teamfights but imo he's a lot more dangerous as a pusher.


He clears minions just as fast without his ulti lol. The ulti doesn't make that huge of a difference in that respect. Your poison doing like, 10? if that more damage doesn't mean anything lol.


He does hit towers a lot harder with old ulti popped, i mean just standing there smacking it R added tons of damage
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
April 12 2011 05:13 GMT
#1394
Also the cc reduction on his ult makes it so he can buy non-merc treads (which will probably be boots of swiftness for more speed)
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 12 2011 05:27 GMT
#1395
Orrr just get merc treads and be irelia.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2011 05:38 GMT
#1396
I am a little confused at the katarina nerf. Like...really?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#1397
I guess they're trying to make healers a bit stronger with all these counter-heal nerfs. Which makes sense as to why they nerfed Mundo a bit.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 12 2011 05:58 GMT
#1398
Why is no one talking about that Sion buff? God I fucking hate that champion. Was glad when people didn't pick him because of them having a boner for Jarvan/Renek but it looks like he's back. fuck life.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 12 2011 06:04 GMT
#1399
I may be wrong, but 1.5<2, so it would be a nerf.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
April 12 2011 06:27 GMT
#1400
Sion went unchanged for like two years and now they nerf the stun, lol.

No changes to irelia/jarvan, I guess they weren't "tanky dps" enough.

Also cheaper BF sword... were people not getting BF swords? Or were carries just not good enough?
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