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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 18:51:33
June 30 2011 18:51 GMT
#19261
I still don't think he's at all viable in ranked 5's. Rainman has been doing well with him in solo queue but ranked 5's are all about short fights with lots of cc and although udyr has decent cc he has no way to get in range fast enough to make a difference. He is of course very very good as a jungler and laner though, just large scale 5v5 teamfights he has trouble with. You need a really good initaitor and a flash to do much.

Warwick/Irelia/Xin/Leesin all seem like way better choices.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 18:51 GMT
#19262
On July 01 2011 03:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 03:30 Mogwai wrote:
On July 01 2011 03:25 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Did udyr get a ninja-buff or something? Been seeing him on streams a lot and quite a few udyrs in my low elo EU games lately as well. Had not seen one for like a month in ranked and then I seem to have one in every other game and they actually do well most of the time.

no, he got buffed in plain sight. read patch notes.

Did that really help that much tho?

I used to main Udyr, but I haven't used him in so long 'cause he's just not reliable as it's wayyyy too easy to kite him :\

Also, who was who said "when i tryhard i lose and when i troll i win." Because that man is a prophet; whenever i tryhard i get matched up with straight up "imdurnkdntrolling" kids and when I troll i get a team that cares.

75 -> 55 mana is a HUGE difference, especially for laning. similarly, for jungling it greatly reduces his reliance on blue buff, which makes him much more robust.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 30 2011 18:56 GMT
#19263
On July 01 2011 03:51 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 03:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 01 2011 03:30 Mogwai wrote:
On July 01 2011 03:25 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Did udyr get a ninja-buff or something? Been seeing him on streams a lot and quite a few udyrs in my low elo EU games lately as well. Had not seen one for like a month in ranked and then I seem to have one in every other game and they actually do well most of the time.

no, he got buffed in plain sight. read patch notes.

Did that really help that much tho?

I used to main Udyr, but I haven't used him in so long 'cause he's just not reliable as it's wayyyy too easy to kite him :\

Also, who was who said "when i tryhard i lose and when i troll i win." Because that man is a prophet; whenever i tryhard i get matched up with straight up "imdurnkdntrolling" kids and when I troll i get a team that cares.

75 -> 55 mana is a HUGE difference, especially for laning. similarly, for jungling it greatly reduces his reliance on blue buff, which makes him much more robust.

That's true, but it doesn't really deal with the fact that CC and slows and kiting in general makes you QQ. I generally go Q>W>E>R; maybe maxing bear second for more mspd boost?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 19:03 GMT
#19264
I dunno, I don't really play him anymore, I'm just saying the buff is very significant on paper.

I think I've heard stuff about leaving Bear or Turtle at 3 and actually Maxing both Tiger and Phoenix to max out your damage output.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 30 2011 19:11 GMT
#19265
What exactly is HSGG streaming? Is it just TSM vs Others lol?
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
June 30 2011 19:12 GMT
#19266
The death of udyr has been and still is ranged carry+flash. If they have an ashe+janna you might as well just sit in the corner and cry for 20 minutes.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
June 30 2011 19:13 GMT
#19267
On July 01 2011 04:11 emperorchampion wrote:
What exactly is HSGG streaming? Is it just TSM vs Others lol?


showmatch I think with real trash heros they can't play at all
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 30 2011 19:16 GMT
#19268
On July 01 2011 04:12 TL Blazeraid wrote:
The death of udyr has been and still is ranged carry+flash. If they have an ashe+janna you might as well just sit in the corner and cry for 20 minutes.

I dissagree. All udyr needs to do is carry flash himself to initiate. Plus a bear speed boost ia nothing to laugh at. If you cant get to the sqishy, then you can just peel the other 4 from YOUR carry. Constant stuns are huge.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 30 2011 19:23 GMT
#19269
On July 01 2011 04:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 04:12 TL Blazeraid wrote:
The death of udyr has been and still is ranged carry+flash. If they have an ashe+janna you might as well just sit in the corner and cry for 20 minutes.

I dissagree. All udyr needs to do is carry flash himself to initiate. Plus a bear speed boost ia nothing to laugh at. If you cant get to the sqishy, then you can just peel the other 4 from YOUR carry. Constant stuns are huge.

That's pretty much all I do with udyr when I do play him now. Peel shit from your carry. That's all he's really good for. The problem is also the fact that if you jungle, you're kinda worthless against any decent laner that actually wards and has some semblance of map awareness.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 19:33:02
June 30 2011 19:32 GMT
#19270
i play udyr as an assassin, ghostblade with ad runes and tiger stance op

not really a trollbuild either, have like 75% win with it in ranked lol and this is when he was considered trash. havent tried him with new mana yet
Brees on in
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
June 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#19271
Twitch, Jungle Trynd, Lux, Sivir, Ezreal
vs.
Poppy, Pantheon, Kayle, Galio, Veigar

l0l real Showmatch
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 19:34:13
June 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#19272
On July 01 2011 04:13 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 04:11 emperorchampion wrote:
What exactly is HSGG streaming? Is it just TSM vs Others lol?


showmatch I think with real trash heros they can't play at all

Reverse pick, they pick eachother's champions. 25k collective viewers. On shared vent channel.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#19273
black cleaver op on udyr, always proc always kill
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
June 30 2011 19:34 GMT
#19274
how is poppy and galio in a trash match lol

kayle too to some extent, whoever picked for that team sucks at this game
Brees on in
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
June 30 2011 19:35 GMT
#19275
Brag moment: Just had a team surrender after seeing me hit a tower with Siphon Strike. Had 115 Q last-hits by minute 30 vs an Ashe/Janna lane. Silly.stuffs. Gawd I love Nasus. (note, the vlad and udyr on my team were also fed, but I thought it was funny that they surrendered shortly after I smacked a tower for ~1/4th its life).

Speaking of Nasus. I finally definitively lost a 1v1 lane with Nasus vs a zoning Kayle with jungle Udyr help. Felt completely useless. Finished the game 1-6. 1-3 during laning phase. Somehow she almost never pushed the lane to my tower. Almost no farm. My Q was almost pointless. 'Twas sad.

Been cycling between Shen (pure tank), Alistar (tanky AP disrupter), Nasus (Tanky AD) and Twisted Fate (AP DPS), depending on what my solo queue team needs-- tankies are always in high demand. Any other champs I should make sure I know? I used to enjoy Sion a lot. Nunu and Master Yi (junglers) were also champs I played, but I was shit with them.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
June 30 2011 19:35 GMT
#19276
Hotshot stream way better than Riot, all the people in Vent

Regi giving FB like a noob
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
June 30 2011 19:36 GMT
#19277
On July 01 2011 04:35 Tadzio wrote:
Brag moment: Just had a team surrender after seeing me hit a tower with Siphon Strike. Had 115 Q last-hits by minute 30 vs an Ashe/Janna lane. Silly.stuffs. Gawd I love Nasus. (note, the vlad and udyr on my team were also fed, but I thought it was funny that they surrendered shortly after I smacked a tower for ~1/4th its life).

Speaking of Nasus. I finally definitively lost a 1v1 lane with Nasus vs a zoning Kayle with jungle Udyr help. Felt completely useless. Finished the game 1-6. 1-3 during laning phase. Somehow she almost never pushed the lane to my tower. Almost no farm. My Q was almost pointless. 'Twas sad.

Been cycling between Shen (pure tank), Alistar (tanky AP disrupter), Nasus (Tanky AD) and Twisted Fate (AP DPS), depending on what my solo queue team needs-- tankies are always in high demand. Any other champs I should make sure I know? I used to enjoy Sion a lot. Nunu and Master Yi (junglers) were also champs I played, but I was shit with them.


this is why I dont lane him top. junglers can shut you down hard if they realize that nasus isnt actually a bad character
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 30 2011 19:37 GMT
#19278
On July 01 2011 04:33 Woony wrote:
Twitch, Jungle Trynd, Lux, Sivir, Ezreal
vs.
Poppy, Pantheon, Kayle, Galio, Veigar

l0l real Showmatch

Apparently ez is making a comeback since he dominates sidelane so hard.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
June 30 2011 19:42 GMT
#19279
so is the nesl match over, just a show match now ?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
June 30 2011 19:52 GMT
#19280
On July 01 2011 04:42 BlueBird. wrote:
so is the nesl match over, just a show match now ?

I don't think that was a nesl match, since it ended 1-1 and SK are playing their major series match against fnatic as we speak.
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