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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
June 28 2011 20:00 GMT
#19021
On June 29 2011 04:42 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 04:15 Shikyo wrote:
Man, playing Yorick sure sucks. You do the best in your team -> whole team still flames you for picking the champion etc etc despite them feeding like crazy and making retard decisions and then 4x reports for picking Yorick wut

Just entered this game:

Shayuki: me mid
BigGiantPeanuts: haha
WoOdDi: fuck u yarick
BigGiantPeanuts: instant lock yorick calling mid


Hi you have your own thread for this kind of stuff.


im so amused by the communal trolling of shikyo in this subforum.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 28 2011 20:06 GMT
#19022
On June 29 2011 04:42 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 04:15 Shikyo wrote:
Man, playing Yorick sure sucks. You do the best in your team -> whole team still flames you for picking the champion etc etc despite them feeding like crazy and making retard decisions and then 4x reports for picking Yorick wut

Just entered this game:

Shayuki: me mid
BigGiantPeanuts: haha
WoOdDi: fuck u yarick
BigGiantPeanuts: instant lock yorick calling mid


Hi you have your own thread for this kind of stuff.

Hi go make yourself your own thread for saying this stuff.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 28 2011 20:12 GMT
#19023
On June 29 2011 05:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 04:42 dnastyx wrote:
On June 29 2011 04:15 Shikyo wrote:
Man, playing Yorick sure sucks. You do the best in your team -> whole team still flames you for picking the champion etc etc despite them feeding like crazy and making retard decisions and then 4x reports for picking Yorick wut

Just entered this game:

Shayuki: me mid
BigGiantPeanuts: haha
WoOdDi: fuck u yarick
BigGiantPeanuts: instant lock yorick calling mid


Hi you have your own thread for this kind of stuff.

Hi go make yourself your own thread for saying this stuff.


Hi you always go tunnel vision when you post this stuff so it has to stand right below it.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 28 2011 20:12 GMT
#19024
after triforce, what's the best item to increase irelia's damage output?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 28 2011 20:15 GMT
#19025
On June 29 2011 05:12 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
after triforce, what's the best item to increase irelia's damage output?

Tank items. You do damage by being alive longer than anyone else. Maybe atmogs if your feeling frisky.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 28 2011 20:19 GMT
#19026
Wit's end, because it synergizes with your W and doubles as an efficient MRes item.
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 20:29:00
June 28 2011 20:23 GMT
#19027
Leona does this by providing a low-cooldown, low-duration, single-target stun with a skillshot gap-closer to start. After she closes the gap to the enemy, she’ll be performing regular single-target stuns that really disrupt the fight or peel off a target from an ally once a fight has begun. Additionally, she has a defensive stance that allows her to soak up punishment pretty effectively and also discharges a wave of sunlight outward that causes significant damage. This mechanic acts as a sort of “soft taunt” that causes her to have some threat when she’s about to unleash a big chunk of damage, and makes her an attractive target.


U
D
Y
R

what the fuck riot?
Low cooldown, low duration stun: Check
Defensive stance shield: Check
AOE dps radiating from self: Check
Gap closer: Close enough

At least she's a not a melee tank with a bunch a melee spel- fuck it nevermind.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#19028
Why does everyone need a freakin gap closer? Thats what fucking broke tanky dps.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 28 2011 20:29 GMT
#19029
Because there're too many CC skills now, melee heroes without a gap closer (ie. Udyr) are worthless now.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
June 28 2011 20:30 GMT
#19030
Huh, I thought her sunlight ulti was actually supposed to be a global ult. Even if not, she still sounds retarded strong. :x
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 28 2011 20:32 GMT
#19031
On June 29 2011 05:23 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Show nested quote +
Leona does this by providing a low-cooldown, low-duration, single-target stun with a skillshot gap-closer to start. After she closes the gap to the enemy, she’ll be performing regular single-target stuns that really disrupt the fight or peel off a target from an ally once a fight has begun. Additionally, she has a defensive stance that allows her to soak up punishment pretty effectively and also discharges a wave of sunlight outward that causes significant damage. This mechanic acts as a sort of “soft taunt” that causes her to have some threat when she’s about to unleash a big chunk of damage, and makes her an attractive target.


U
D
Y
R

what the fuck riot?
Low cooldown, low duration stun: Check
Defensive stance shield: Check
AOE dps radiating from self: Check
Gap closer: Close enough

At least she's a not a melee tank with a bunch a melee spel- fuck it nevermind.


Sorry, but the difference between a hard gap closer and a mini ghost is HUGE. Every viable tanky dps in top level play has a hard gap closer. Amumu, jarvan, irelia, even ww.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 28 2011 20:33 GMT
#19032
On June 29 2011 05:12 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
after triforce, what's the best item to increase irelia's damage output?

I do Wits end rush -> Triforce normally.

After that you really don't need more damage and my standard build goes: FoN, Randuins, finish with Shurelyas Reverie.

Chaox uses same build, can improvise if you need more of something in specific.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 28 2011 20:41 GMT
#19033
On June 29 2011 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 05:23 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Leona does this by providing a low-cooldown, low-duration, single-target stun with a skillshot gap-closer to start. After she closes the gap to the enemy, she’ll be performing regular single-target stuns that really disrupt the fight or peel off a target from an ally once a fight has begun. Additionally, she has a defensive stance that allows her to soak up punishment pretty effectively and also discharges a wave of sunlight outward that causes significant damage. This mechanic acts as a sort of “soft taunt” that causes her to have some threat when she’s about to unleash a big chunk of damage, and makes her an attractive target.


U
D
Y
R

what the fuck riot?
Low cooldown, low duration stun: Check
Defensive stance shield: Check
AOE dps radiating from self: Check
Gap closer: Close enough

At least she's a not a melee tank with a bunch a melee spel- fuck it nevermind.


Sorry, but the difference between a hard gap closer and a mini ghost is HUGE. Every viable tanky dps in top level play has a hard gap closer. Amumu, jarvan, irelia, even ww.


Wait you didn't even get to this part:
Finally, her passive, Sunlight, causes all of Leona’s spells to debuff the target, causing the next attack from an ally to do additional damage. This really encourages Leona to mark high-priority targets and let her set up opportunities for her teammates. Her power increases with the length of the fight, a common tank trait (like Singed’s Poison Trail or Amumu’s Despair, for example).

So she's like Ashe in terms of initiation though shorter stun duration and distance the shot can be fired, yet she allows a stunned initiated-upon target to be blown up even FASTER.

Why set up intricate Arrow/Wall/Barrel combos to kill Caitlyn when you can stun her once and BLOW HER THE FUCK UP.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 28 2011 20:42 GMT
#19034
And unless she has ratios of 0, she sounds like someone you want to build damage on, not tank.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 28 2011 20:45 GMT
#19035
On June 29 2011 05:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
And unless she has ratios of 0, she sounds like someone you want to build damage on, not tank.


what? no definitely not
she sounds like someone you want to keep alive and keep her debuffs on the target of choice so your damage dealers can focus them down
her inborn "taunt" is that if you leave her alive, she makes your <soraka armor buff, nunu attack speed buff, morgana black shield, whatever> nullified, so you must kill her to defend your own units. so in turn, she must build tanky so you cannot kill her
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 28 2011 20:47 GMT
#19036
So she has
LS/Shen/Gragas' skillshot gap-closer
Shen/Udyr's shield
Sion's stun
Rumble's Q as passive
and Trundle's ult as ult.

Kay.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 28 2011 20:47 GMT
#19037
On June 29 2011 05:12 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
after triforce, what's the best item to increase irelia's damage output?


the others said all there is to it, but if you're fed and winning big try a Bloodthirster. you'll be invincible.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 28 2011 20:49 GMT
#19038
[image loading]

Do I get to play other heroes now?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 20:59:33
June 28 2011 20:50 GMT
#19039
On June 29 2011 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 29 2011 05:23 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Leona does this by providing a low-cooldown, low-duration, single-target stun with a skillshot gap-closer to start. After she closes the gap to the enemy, she’ll be performing regular single-target stuns that really disrupt the fight or peel off a target from an ally once a fight has begun. Additionally, she has a defensive stance that allows her to soak up punishment pretty effectively and also discharges a wave of sunlight outward that causes significant damage. This mechanic acts as a sort of “soft taunt” that causes her to have some threat when she’s about to unleash a big chunk of damage, and makes her an attractive target.


U
D
Y
R

what the fuck riot?
Low cooldown, low duration stun: Check
Defensive stance shield: Check
AOE dps radiating from self: Check
Gap closer: Close enough

At least she's a not a melee tank with a bunch a melee spel- fuck it nevermind.


Sorry, but the difference between a hard gap closer and a mini ghost is HUGE. Every viable tanky dps in top level play has a hard gap closer. Amumu, jarvan, irelia, even ww.


Wait you didn't even get to this part:
Show nested quote +
Finally, her passive, Sunlight, causes all of Leona’s spells to debuff the target, causing the next attack from an ally to do additional damage. This really encourages Leona to mark high-priority targets and let her set up opportunities for her teammates. Her power increases with the length of the fight, a common tank trait (like Singed’s Poison Trail or Amumu’s Despair, for example).

So she's like Ashe in terms of initiation though shorter stun duration and distance the shot can be fired, yet she allows a stunned initiated-upon target to be blown up even FASTER.

Why set up intricate Arrow/Wall/Barrel combos to kill Caitlyn when you can stun her once and BLOW HER THE FUCK UP.

Where did the Ashe comparison come from? She's not the only champ with a skillshot initiation skill--hers just happens to be long range and comparatively difficult to fuck up. And Leona's initiating stun will probably not have ECA's range or enormous hitbox. Most likely it will be more comparable to Bandage Toss, Rocket Grab, or Light/Dark Binding. It'll be strong, but putting it in the same league as ECA is just needless sensationalizing.

If anything, Amumu is the most relevant comparison. Skillshot stun/gap closer, persistent AoE damage, passive debuffs target with increased damage taken (-MR in Amumu's case), and, if they keep her ult, wide-area AoE CC.

Actually, these comparisons are pretty pointless seeing as every champ Riot designed as a "tank" has these elements, to varying degrees of OPness (Jarman, Malphite, Alistar, etc.).
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 20:52:13
June 28 2011 20:51 GMT
#19040
On June 29 2011 05:49 Southlight wrote:
[image loading]

Do I get to play other heroes now?

no bitch, stay in the kitchen! ... I mean keep playing support! At least until we can run Janna + Pantheon =P
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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