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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 27 2011 04:42 GMT
#18781
On June 27 2011 12:49 TL Blazeraid wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=898217

(very unreliable) Dota 2 leak hit 4chan.

Oh god I may never play another game again. Valve is some kind of superhero


Looks pretty legit after reading it, it just has to come out ^_~
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 05:11:30
June 27 2011 05:10 GMT
#18782
Fortress mode sounds wicked if legit.
God Bless
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 27 2011 05:16 GMT
#18783
woah, dota 2 sounds awesome!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 27 2011 05:25 GMT
#18784
Fortress mode sounds like its pretty much the best thing ever made?
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 27 2011 05:34 GMT
#18785
Seems like it would be hard to balance out, really depends on how traps/creeps work. Defenders should have an advantage.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 27 2011 05:40 GMT
#18786
Fortress mode and the whole 8 maps thing sounds like a bunch of BS. Everything else is either customs in LoL or a built-in game mode in DotA.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
June 27 2011 05:57 GMT
#18787
Chrispy on Saintvicious stream running Garen Teleport Flash
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Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 27 2011 06:05 GMT
#18788
Anyone feel brave enough to start up a fiddle thread so we can do some discussion over there?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 27 2011 06:10 GMT
#18789
The 'new maps every so-and-so weeks' thing makes it sound real suspicious....would be absolute hell to balance and no one would play anything other than standard SR-style map for competition.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 27 2011 06:15 GMT
#18790
Micro transaction maps, you heard it here first. I don't think that introducing new maps would be that much of a problem, in particular look at brood war, they rotate maps constantly.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 27 2011 06:23 GMT
#18791
On June 27 2011 15:15 Nikon wrote:
Micro transaction maps, you heard it here first. I don't think that introducing new maps would be that much of a problem, in particular look at brood war, they rotate maps constantly.

Well Brood War doesn't have the problem of balancing 100+ heroes and items on top of positional, terrain, and inherent racial imbalances (the last one of which for the most part has been solved).

In all honesty, I don't even feel that new maps are necessary at all for DotA/LoL-esque games. There's enough variation via champs and teamcomps to keep things fresh. It's not like BW or SC2 where the only thing that really changes from game to game is the map.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 27 2011 06:24 GMT
#18792
On June 27 2011 15:15 Nikon wrote:
Micro transaction maps, you heard it here first. I don't think that introducing new maps would be that much of a problem, in particular look at brood war, they rotate maps constantly.

That comparison isn't even remotely accurate.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 27 2011 07:48 GMT
#18793
caseynelson ashe on chausters stream omgomg
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 27 2011 07:51 GMT
#18794
Actually, unless Riot completely reorganizes their infrastructure, they've already lost the race.

They take literal ages to do stuff. They have incompetent people leading whole divisions (you can't really be incompetent at game design, so I won't say Morello, but Marcou... ugh) and they are extremely inefficient.

I wonder if the threat of Valve that aims to have more stuff at release than Riot has after 2 years after it will make Riot move. If anything, they should be refactoring their code to allow modification.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 27 2011 07:59 GMT
#18795
On June 27 2011 16:51 BluzMan wrote:
Actually, unless Riot completely reorganizes their infrastructure, they've already lost the race.

They take literal ages to do stuff. They have incompetent people leading whole divisions (you can't really be incompetent at game design, so I won't say Morello, but Marcou... ugh) and they are extremely inefficient.

I wonder if the threat of Valve that aims to have more stuff at release than Riot has after 2 years after it will make Riot move. If anything, they should be refactoring their code to allow modification.

TBH, I think their game design division is pretty good. You know you've made a good game when you can get a consistently high showing on your tourney streams despite having perhaps the most incompetent eSports set-up ever in the entire history of ESPORTS.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
June 27 2011 08:24 GMT
#18796
On June 27 2011 16:51 BluzMan wrote:
Actually, unless Riot completely reorganizes their infrastructure, they've already lost the race.

They take literal ages to do stuff. They have incompetent people leading whole divisions (you can't really be incompetent at game design, so I won't say Morello, but Marcou... ugh) and they are extremely inefficient.

I wonder if the threat of Valve that aims to have more stuff at release than Riot has after 2 years after it will make Riot move. If anything, they should be refactoring their code to allow modification.

The key there is that they AIM to have more stuff at release..plenty of that will most likely get cancelled or delayed until later so that they can release the game on schedule
You can't milk those!
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
June 27 2011 08:29 GMT
#18797
On June 27 2011 14:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Fortress mode and the whole 8 maps thing sounds like a bunch of BS. Everything else is either customs in LoL or a built-in game mode in DotA.

If fortress mode is legit, then the 8 maps thing could definitely sound plausable
5v5 and 3v3 normal maps
aram map
5v5 / 3v3 fortress maps
random arena maps
I am down but I am far from over
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 27 2011 08:34 GMT
#18798
On June 27 2011 17:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 16:51 BluzMan wrote:
Actually, unless Riot completely reorganizes their infrastructure, they've already lost the race.

They take literal ages to do stuff. They have incompetent people leading whole divisions (you can't really be incompetent at game design, so I won't say Morello, but Marcou... ugh) and they are extremely inefficient.

I wonder if the threat of Valve that aims to have more stuff at release than Riot has after 2 years after it will make Riot move. If anything, they should be refactoring their code to allow modification.

The key there is that they AIM to have more stuff at release..plenty of that will most likely get cancelled or delayed until later so that they can release the game on schedule


I don't think so, it's quite a normal amount of features. I'm sure they will kick out some of the stuff, but not because of time constraints, but because of playtesting that will reveal that some of those modes just aren't good enough.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 27 2011 08:34 GMT
#18799
Anyone know how to get the chat on the right like Chauster does? I know you can move it but it doesn't save and I really don't want to have to move it each game.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
June 27 2011 09:10 GMT
#18800
From what i heard about Dota 2 the name of the game was same-old same-old. These inovative concepts don't seem to clash well with what appears to otherwise be a very conservative remake.

In the end i doubt Dota 2 will do much on the LoL numbers. Some people might jump over to get a taste but i really doubt they will stick with it long. Dota is just a completly different game. People won't understand what is happening when they suddenly get 1-shot by every single champion and people are killing their own minions just to deny gold.


Dota (and HoN for that matter) are just far more brutal games. Tanks 1-shot people all the damn time as far as tanks even exist. That devourer is the equivalent of Blitzcrank merged with a carry.

In the end LoL is just a very different game from those other two and it will end up being their saving grace. People who are good at LoL will not at all be good at Dota 2. If there is one thing these LoL pro's hate it's being a noob so why would they stick with a game that basically has them being the feeders they despise so much.

I might play some Dota 2 just to enjoy playing the broodmother in high def but i don't think i will play it as much as LoL.
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